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From: greg basa <demipop@**********.COM>
Subject: A question on Metahuman variants and magicians.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 03:21:20 -0400
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Heyo.

Can't believe I neglected to ask this question...

On the metahuman variants on the SRCompanion, are the modifications =
+ACo-in addition to+ACo- the normal metahuman modifications (ex: a giant =
(Nordic troll) is given a +-5 Strength and no dermal armor in addition =
to the normal troll racial modifiers) or in place of the normal =
metahuman modifiers (the giant receives only the +-5 Strength modifier =
and no other racial modifiers)?

I am assuming this question has been asked before.

Another question I have is how many Force points are needed to lock a =
spell during character creation, and exactly what determines the Power =
Level and Damage Code on a spell?

I'm not a newbie, really+ADs- it's just that I've played Street Sams and =
PhysAds for the past three years and not one magic-user.

Can orichalum be dikoted?

And lastly, is FASA reprinting the hardcover edition to SR3? And is =
anyone out to get rid of a hardcover SR2?

Greg

Rules of Life:

1. This is not a game.

2. Here and now, we are alive.

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Message no. 2
From: apdjfer <apdjfer@****.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: A question on Metahuman variants and magicians.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:44:52 +1000
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From: greg basa +ADw-demipop+AEA-mindspring.com+AD4-
To: SHADOWRN+AEA-LISTPROC.ITRIBE.NET =
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Date: Saturday, 29 August 1998 17:24
Subject: A question on Metahuman variants and magicians.


On the metahuman variants on the SRCompanion, are the modifications =
+ACo-in addition to+ACo- the normal metahuman modifications (ex: a giant =
(Nordic troll) is given a +-5 Strength and no dermal armor in addition =
to the normal troll racial modifiers) or in place of the normal =
metahuman modifiers (the giant receives only the +-5 Strength modifier =
and no other racial modifiers)?

I am assuming this question has been asked before.


In our game my GM (after recieving advice from unknown sources) =
decided that it's in addition to the other mods. Continuing the example, =
this means the Giant gets +-5 to it's strength in a trade off for the =
dermal armour.

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Message no. 3
From: "M. Sean Martinez" <ElBandit@***.COM>
Subject: Re: A question on Metahuman variants and magicians.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 10:20:21 EDT
In a message dated 8/29/98 3:26:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
demipop@**********.com writes:

> or in place of the normal metahuman modifiers (the
> giant receives only the +-5 Strength modifier and no other racial
modifiers)?

The meta varients only get the modifiers listed, IIRC.

> I am assuming this question has been asked before.

I could not tell you.

> Another question I have is how many Force points are needed to lock a spell
> during character creation, and exactly what determines the Power Level and
> Damage Code on a spell?

I believe its one force point and the cost of the spell lock in nuyen. What
spell are you wanting to lock? Usually the spell has a base damage code listed
in its discription and the force of the spell determines power rating.

> I'm not a newbie, really+ADs- it's just that I've played Street Sams and
>PhysAds for the past three years and not one magic-user.

I can understand that.

> Can orichalum be dikoted?

I am inclined to say no, since I would rather see PCs enchant dikoted weapons.
(TN 8-10 I believe) and I think it would melt in the treatment IMHO,

> And lastly, is FASA reprinting the hardcover edition to SR3? And is anyone
> out to get rid of a hardcover SR2?

I picked up a lot of gaming stuff at the last con I wnet to and I think I also
got another hard back SR2.

-Bandit
Message no. 4
From: "M. Sean Martinez" <ElBandit@***.COM>
Subject: Re: A question on Metahuman variants and magicians.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 10:24:23 EDT
Greetings!!

OOOPs I goofed!

The modifications listed on the metavarients are in addition to the standard
meta human modifications.

The Giant would get a +5 Strength and no dermal armor as opposed to the
standard +4 Strengeth and dermal armor with Trolls.

-Bandit
Message no. 5
From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: A question on Metahuman variants and magicians.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 13:17:18 -0500
On Sat, 29 Aug 1998 10:24:23 EDT "M. Sean Martinez" <ElBandit@***.COM>
writes:
>Greetings!!
>
>OOOPs I goofed!
>
>The modifications listed on the metavarients are in addition to the
standard
>meta human modifications.
>
>The Giant would get a +5 Strength and no dermal armor as opposed to the
>standard +4 Strengeth and dermal armor with Trolls.
>
>-Bandit

If the giant got the mods -in addition- to the normal mods, the giant
would would have 5 + 4 (standard troll mod) = +9 Strength mod.

The way it works is: Any mods listed in the description override the
normal bonus for the base metahuman, otherwise, the base metahuman's
stats still apply.

D. Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum, RuPixel)
o/` Trideo killed the Video Star ... o/`

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