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Message no. 1
From: paladinu@****.com (Paladinu)
Subject: Arcology
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:41:36 -0500
>A 6' 6" ceiling. 2 meters? Do me a favor. Stand up wherever you are
right
>now. Reach up over your head. Can you touch the ceiling? If you can, you
>or others around you are very uncomfortable, at least subconsciously.

True I was mostly basing my numbers of the necessity of the ceiling height
not on the usable space in between. I definitely agree something is out of
whack but have changed my mind on a few things after giving them some
consideration.

1. The height of the plenum area can be much smaller than it is today.
Currently the majority of the need for space there are the air movers and
returns that help circulation. High velocity air cooling/heating takes a
much smaller space (tube usually inch in diameter or so) to move air.
2. multiplexing and bundling of fiber cabling could vastly reduce the
amount of cabling required in this area especially since it requires no
special shielding for being next to power cables.
3. hmm... hidden ceiling space = security risk. plenty of military
installations require cabling to be run visibly on the walls rather than
enclosed so as to expose sniffing devices and what not. Not to mention the
danger of having a merc hiding in your ceiling just waiting for the morning
whistle to blow.

I think given possible future advancements in building design the plenum
area could be reduced to .3 meters. This plus .2m steel beam honeycomb
structure and on top of that .1m plasticrete slab. Call the ceiling height
.5m total and we are golden. Do with the rest of the space what you will.
Message no. 2
From: Gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Arcology
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:13:20 +0200
According to Paladinu, on Mon, 30 Sep 2002 the word on the street was...

> 3. hmm... hidden ceiling space = security risk. plenty of military
> installations require cabling to be run visibly on the walls rather than
> enclosed so as to expose sniffing devices and what not.

But this does make for a less comfortable working and living area. It would
be OK in places like the factory areas of the Arcology, but I doubt all the
plumbing would be visible in the offices and apartments.

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