Back to the main page

Mailing List Logs for ShadowRN

Message no. 1
From: Mike Buckalew <mike_buckalew@******.COM>
Subject: Armless Auras
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 13:43:33 -0000
I had a situation last night where an astral mage was looking for an
individual who's only identification was a missing limb or two. Should
this be immediately visible, even if the suspected limb is obscured by a
desk or something?

Since there was actually no people without limbs, it was a setup, I
explained "You don't find anyone without limbs, but you're not sure that
their aura would be any different anyway, so you can't be sure they are
not there." It was a cop out, but it worked.

Someone who had a cyberarm installed would show up as "essence damaged",
with the possibility of locating the damage in the arm region with enough
success on the astral perception.

The amputee would have one of three possible answers: "essence damaged"
like the cyberarm, missing the arm in the aura as well as in the flesh,
or appearing as the essence of a normal arm in spite of the flesh being
gone. Opionions?


Buck
(Mike Buckalew)
Test Manager
FileMaker Pro
buck@******.com

-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.12
GCS d- s-: a C++ !U !P !L !E W+ N o? K? $w--- !O $M+(++)
!V PS+(+++) PE++ Y+ PGP- t+ 5+ !X R++ tv+>(+++) b++ DI+++
D---- G e++ h--- r+++ y?
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
Message no. 2
From: Mike Elkins <MikeE@*********.COM>
Subject: Armless Auras -Reply
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:25:14 -0500
>I had a situation last night where an astral mage was looking for an individual
>who's only identification was a missing limb or two. Should this be immediately
>visible, even if the suspected limb is obscured by a desk or something?

Excellent question!

I think I would rule that an amputee's aura would be similar to a character with a
cyberarm: The aura appears whole, but diminished. Extra successess on the
perception test would indicate something wrong with the arm...

In support of this theory, Kirillian photography (spelling?) supposedly can
"photograph" the whole shadows of leaves w/ bites taken out of them. This was
given by the ESPers as support for the entire concept of auras. In Shadowrun
machines can't see auras anyway, but its an interesting parallel.

Double-Domed Mike
Message no. 3
From: david lowe <dlowe@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:31:13 -0800
Time for this new member to speak up.

I have heard that people who have lost limbs sometimes experience feelings,
pain, an itch, etc., where their limb used to be. I would say that the
aura would show up 'damaged' but in a different way than cyberware would.
Of course, I wouldn't tell the mage what it was until he or she saw it in
the flesh and drew a correlation, but that's just me.

D.
Message no. 4
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:43:09 -0500
At 03:31 PM 3/12/97 -0800, david lowe wrote these timeless words:
>Time for this new member to speak up.
>
New Member!!! Hello!!!!

Welcome to the list! Hope ya like mail!

Glad to have you aboaard...:]

Bull-the-welcome-Ork
--
Now the Offical Shadowrn mailing List Welcome Ork!
Fearless Leader of the Star Wars Mailing List

=======================================================
= Bull, aka Chaos, aka Rak, aka Steven Ratkovich =
= chaos@*****.com =
= "Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours?" =
=======================================================

"You know, I think I had a dream that I'd go out like
this, only I was wearing a dress."
-Mighty max
Message no. 5
From: Ray & Tamara <macey@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:15:41 +1000
> The amputee would have one of three possible answers: "essence damaged"
> like the cyberarm, missing the arm in the aura as well as in the flesh,
> or appearing as the essence of a normal arm in spite of the flesh being
> gone. Opionions?

I would say that to miss the arm in the aura, he would have to be missing
the arm because of some genetic mutation or such. This means that the
'standard' for this person is to exist without the missing limb. Anything
else, and the arm is meant to be there, and it's just an accident or
whatever that it's not, and I would think that it still would be according
to the aura. You know how amputees often have mysterious itches in their
missing limb, well maybe that's why.

Ray
Message no. 6
From: Droopy <droopy@*******.NB.NET>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras -Reply
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:45:49 +0000
> From: Mike Elkins <MikeE@*********.COM>
> Subject: Armless Auras -Reply

> >I had a situation last night where an astral mage was looking for an individual
> >who's only identification was a missing limb or two. Should this be immediately
> >visible, even if the suspected limb is obscured by a desk or something?

> I think I would rule that an amputee's aura would be similar to a character with a
> cyberarm: The aura appears whole, but diminished. Extra successess on the
> perception test would indicate something wrong with the arm...
>
> In support of this theory, Kirillian photography (spelling?) supposedly can
<snip>

I saw an episode of sightings (or unexplained mysteries or something
like that) that was talking about a guy who lost his arm in a farm
accident. The guy couldn't accept it, yada yada and occasionally
objects would just fly off of the table for no reason. Anyway, these
researcher types used thermal imaging to record this guy and provoked
said response. The thermal film showed an arm where his missing one
was knocking the glass accross the room.

If it's on TV, it's gotta be true. <BG>


--Droopy
droopy@**.net
Message no. 7
From: MC23 <mc23@****.NET>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:32:15 -0500
Mike Buckalew asked,
>The amputee would have one of three possible answers: "essence damaged"
>like the cyberarm, missing the arm in the aura as well as in the flesh,
>or appearing as the essence of a normal arm in spite of the flesh being
>gone. Opionions?

I think this was covered somewhere in the books casually but this is
from the top of my head. The body's aura would still show the arm. This
image is weaker and probably grows weaker with the passing of time. Now
if this same person could astrally project then he would still have his
full idealization of himself which should still include the arm looking
as healthy as ever.


<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

Ancient cultures believed that names held great power, personal names
more so and they were guarded very closely. To protect themselves, they
answered to another name, because if another discovered their real name,
it could be used against them.
History repeats itself.
Welcome to the Digital Age.
I am MC23
Message no. 8
From: Dvixen <Dvixen@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras -Reply
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:39:43 -0800
Droopy wrote:

> > >I had a situation last night where an astral mage was looking for an
individual
> > >who's only identification was a missing limb or two. Should this be
immediately
> > >visible, even if the suspected limb is obscured by a desk or something?

A desk has an aura, that I doubt the mage could see through. Even glass
poses as a barrier (although prolly a weak one) in astral space.
Everything has an aura, to some extent.

I'd play it much as the others have suggested, that the arm is in fact
there, but faded, or shows trauma at the site of the amputation, if the
amputation was violent, but not so if the amputation was actually a
birth defect.

If the perosn that is missign an arm, perhaps he had a replacement put
on, and there are over lapping auras, one fo the real limb that is no
longer there, again this is more plausible if the arm was lost
violently, and the body hasn't said good-bye to it.

> > I think I would rule that an amputee's aura would be similar to a character with
a
> > cyberarm: The aura appears whole, but diminished. Extra successess on the
> > perception test would indicate something wrong with the arm...
> >
> > In support of this theory, Kirillian photography (spelling?) supposedly can

Never did figure out how to spell that word. *grumble*

> <snip>
>
> I saw an episode of sightings (or unexplained mysteries or something
> like that) that was talking about a guy who lost his arm in a farm
> accident. The guy couldn't accept it, yada yada and occasionally
> objects would just fly off of the table for no reason. Anyway, these
> researcher types used thermal imaging to record this guy and provoked
> said response. The thermal film showed an arm where his missing one
> was knocking the glass accross the room.

Actually, if it aired withing the last year, it was on 'Psi-Factor:
Chronicles of the Paranormal'. In the ep I'm thinking of, a man lost his
arm to a thresher. (that's gotta hurt) Highly entertaining, since the
ghost limb saved the man's grandson (son?) from falling from the barn
rafters. There was also an amusing episode on X-files where a severed
head showed a body (shoulders) when photographed using Kirillian
photography.

> If it's on TV, it's gotta be true. <BG>

You *really* need to get out more.
;)

--

Dvixen dvixen@********.com
"And I thought First Ones were rare." - Ivanova - Babylon 5
I have no sense of decency. That way, all my other senses are enhanced
Message no. 9
From: Shawn Baumgartner <deosyne@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:51:11 -0800
>Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:31:13 -0800
>From: david lowe
>Subject: Re: Armless Auras
>To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET

>Time for this new member to speak up.
>
>I have heard that people who have lost limbs
sometimes experience feelings,
>pain, an itch, etc., where their limb used to be. I
would say that the
>aura would show up 'damaged' but in a different way
than cyberware would.
>Of course, I wouldn't tell the mage what it was
until he or she saw it in
>the flesh and drew a correlation, but that's just
me.
>
>D.

Yep, sounds good to me. Oh, and welcome!

Shawn
Groovin' on being able to quote posts.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Out of the gutter and into your mailer!

---------------------------------------------------------
Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
---------------------------------------------------------
Message no. 10
From: Dvixen <Dvixen@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:22:31 -0800
Couple questions for ya...
Can you change the width of your mails? (usually people are growling at
them being to wide, however, you've gone the other direction! ;)

Also, trim what you can, headers in excess of who the original was from
are usually not necessary, and when you're reading 200+ posts a day, you
begin to appreciate those who do trim somewhat. Even summarizing within
<...> is an idea.

Also the <aol> me too </aol> syndrome is frowned upon by some olders on
the list.

Conrats at getting a better mailer. Next step, your own copmuter!

Shawn Baumgartner wrote:

> >From: david lowe
>
> >Time for this new member to speak up.

<phantom limb syndrome>

> Yep, sounds good to me. Oh, and welcome!
>
> Shawn
> Groovin' on being able to quote posts.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Out of the gutter and into your mailer!

Like the .sig!

--

Dvixen dvixen@********.com
"And I thought First Ones were rare." - Ivanova - Babylon 5
I have no sense of decency. That way, all my other senses are enhanced
Message no. 11
From: Shawn Baumgartner <deosyne@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 01:16:46 -0800
>Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:22:31 -0800
>From: Dvixen

>Couple questions for ya...
>Can you change the width of your mails? (usually
people are growling at
>them being to wide, however, you've gone the other
direction! ;)

Sorry, love, no width control. (Can't win for losing,
can I? :))

>
>Also, trim what you can, headers in excess of who
the original was from
>are usually not necessary, and when you're reading
200+ posts a day, you
>begin to appreciate those who do trim somewhat. Even
summarizing within
> is an idea.

I know. I get a bit lazy, since no cut and paste;
gotta backspace over everything I don't want going
out (headers, sigs, irrelevant crap, etc.)

>
>Also the <aol>me too</aol> syndrome is frowned upon
by some olders on
>the list.
>

Apologies for using such a cheesy method to practice
using this new mailer. Sorta why I threw the welcome
in there (also wanted to try to beat the Bull-Bot).
:) On a side note, where did the "me too syndrome"
and AOL corrolate? I've used AOL before (for about
five minutes; got to laughing too damn hard to
continue) but can't see where the two came together.
Just curious. :)

>Congrats at getting a better mailer. Next step, your
own computer!
>
Hmm, already got the MB and CPU, so let's see... get
about $650 a month... $400 for rent... $80 for
utilities and phone... about $30 for Mac N Cheese...
Hey, only 8 more months! Oh... <grimace> :)

>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Out of the gutter and into your mailer!
>
>Like the .sig!
>
Thanx! :)

Shawn
With general apologies to the rest of the list for
putting up with this piece of crap they call a
mailer.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Out of the gutter and into your mailer!

---------------------------------------------------------
Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
---------------------------------------------------------
Message no. 12
From: Fastjack <uc298@*****.UNICAN.ES>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:31:44 +0100
On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Mike Buckalew wrote:

> I had a situation last night where an astral mage was looking for an
> individual who's only identification was a missing limb or two. Should
> this be immediately visible, even if the suspected limb is obscured by a
> desk or something?

IMO an astral mage will be able to know the lost of the limb,because his
aura will be "damaged",not in the sense of cyberware.The aura will have
the lack of the limb as a kind of pain.

[snip]


The amputee would have one of three possible answers: "essence damaged"
like the cyberarm, missing the arm in the aura as well as in the flesh,
or appearing as the essence of a normal arm in spite of the flesh being
gone. Opionions?

Missing the arm in the aura and the mage will sense "aura`s pain".


Buck
> (Mike Buckalew)
> Test Manager
> FileMaker Pro
> buck@******.com
>
> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
> Version: 3.12
> GCS d- s-: a C++ !U !P !L !E W+ N o? K? $w--- !O $M+(++)
> !V PS+(+++) PE++ Y+ PGP- t+ 5+ !X R++ tv+>(+++) b++ DI+++
> D---- G e++ h--- r+++ y?
> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
>



*************************************************
* *
* >>>>>[Tu ciberterminal sera mia.Piensalo bien *
* cuando te encuentras en lo mas oscuro de la *
* matriz]<<<<< *
* -Fastjack<18:05:46/12-22-52> *
*************************************************
Message no. 13
From: Tim Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras -Reply
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:07:56 -0800
On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Dvixen wrote:

> Droopy wrote:
> A desk has an aura, that I doubt the mage could see through. Even glass
> poses as a barrier (although prolly a weak one) in astral space.
> Everything has an aura, to some extent.
>
> I'd play it much as the others have suggested, that the arm is in fact
> there, but faded, or shows trauma at the site of the amputation, if the
> amputation was violent, but not so if the amputation was actually a
> birth defect.
>
> If the perosn that is missign an arm, perhaps he had a replacement put
> on, and there are over lapping auras, one fo the real limb that is no
> longer there, again this is more plausible if the arm was lost
> violently, and the body hasn't said good-bye to it.

Here's a different POV...
It seems to be assumed that an aura looks like some sort of sihlouette of
the person (with a head, arms, legs, fingers, etc..), is that a good idea
(the assumption)?

Could not the aura be something more on the lines of a less defined (maybe
amorphous) thing, that is recognizable, not so much by it's physical SHAPE
but maybe by it's "astral properties". Also since the aura extends out
from the body a short distance, maybe exact details are difficult to see.
This might account for not being able to tell EXACTLY what types of
cyberware a person has beyond general "dark spots".

~Tim
Message no. 14
From: Dvixen <Dvixen@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:14:18 -0800
Shawn Baumgartner wrote:

First off, I'd meant this to go private. (oops)

<No width control, no cut and paste>

One word : Yuck.

> Apologies for using such a cheesy method to practice
> using this new mailer. Sorta why I threw the welcome
> in there (also wanted to try to beat the Bull-Bot).

Heh. The Bull bot's been beaten before, and shall be beaten again. Tha's
the problem with being an AI, you see.

> :) On a side note, where did the "me too syndrome"
<snip>
> Just curious. :)

If you sit and watch, I'm certain you'll find out. I'm afraid it has
turned a bit into a private joke. <shrug>

> With general apologies to the rest of the list for
> putting up with this piece of crap they call a
> mailer.

At least you aren't sending attachments!

--

Dvixen dvixen@********.com
"And I thought First Ones were rare." - Ivanova - Babylon 5
I have no sense of decency. That way, all my other senses are enhanced
Message no. 15
From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@******.GWEEP.NET>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:25:35 -0500
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

>>>>> "MB" == Mike Buckalew <mike_buckalew@******.COM>
writes:

MB> I had a situation last night where an astral mage was looking for an
MB> individual who's only identification was a missing limb or two. Should
MB> this be immediately visible,

Normally, yes. The health of the individual is clearly represented in the
aura.

MB> even if the suspected limb is obscured by a desk or something?

If the aura of the something blocks astral line of sight then it will block
astral line of sight; if the something does not block astral line of sight
then it will not block astral line of sight.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3
Charset: cp850

iQCVAwUBMyiM7J6VRH7BJMxHAQEHIwQAhG7sgmBZX1eGe7QT8eUGC7a0/SbgNxrn
zjq8pzaUohRRxFSedtyA4UQZi8bjcN9AFR4E0k/K1/H8v16yKE41QiPYkHopBVrg
YQUPWO35OIvQ16Ofl2+W9uMCbILMOBEPGqD/4r4trC2aux9pIqH3VeTINkxzovaC
mjKksjgwWSo=
=0vsx
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
--
Rat <ratinox@******.gweep.net> \ Warning: pregnant women, the elderly, and
PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ children under 10 should avoid prolonged
\ exposure to Happy Fun Ball.
Message no. 16
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:14:35 +0000
|At least you aren't sending attachments!

Please!
There's no need to give him ideas....

:)

--
______________________________________________________________________________
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Message no. 17
From: Angel Ramos y David Fayes <hansa@****.NET>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:22:49 -0500
At 10:31 AM 03/13/97 +0100, you wrote:
>>IMO an astral mage will be able to know the lost of the limb,because his
>aura will be "damaged",not in the sense of cyberware.The aura will have
>the lack of the limb as a kind of pain.

I think that if it is the first time a magician sees the aura of a limbless
being, the GM should describe the aura as normal but with a "damaged" part
(limb) and then the magician should make another perception test (+2TN) to
see if the magician realizes that the "damage" is the missing limb

> The amputee would have one of three possible answers: "essence damaged"
> like the cyberarm, missing the arm in the aura as well as in the flesh,
> or appearing as the essence of a normal arm in spite of the flesh being
> gone. Opionions?

I would go for the third one but I'd change the normal word by "strained".


The elven mage
Message no. 18
From: Shawn Baumgartner <deosyne@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:35:28 -0800
>Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:14:35 +0000
>From: Spike

>|At least you aren't sending attachments!
>
>Please!
>There's no need to give him ideas....
>
>:)

Oooh! Attachments, what a great idea! Then I can act
like I have one of those cool IE mailers!

Shawn
Trying to keep his sig short for the other poor
bastards who have to backspace over what he wants to
delete.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Out of the gutter and into your mailer!

---------------------------------------------------------
Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
---------------------------------------------------------
Message no. 19
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:16:44 +0000
|Oooh! Attachments, what a great idea! Then I can act
|like I have one of those cool IE mailers!

There's an Immortal Elven e-mailer????
--
______________________________________________________________________________
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Message no. 20
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 03:42:45 +0000
In article <17533.199703170016@*****.teach.cs.keele.ac.uk>, Spike
<u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK> writes
>|Oooh! Attachments, what a great idea! Then I can act
>|like I have one of those cool IE mailers!
>
>There's an Immortal Elven e-mailer????

Of course there is. Silly boy. Bill Gates is immortal, so why
shouldn't his software be the same. <grin>


--
Avenger
Message no. 21
From: Caric <caric@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:44:48 -0700
> Of course there is. Silly boy. Bill Gates is immortal, so why
> shouldn't his software be the same. <grin>

Don't you mean immoral?


~Caric

"All the world's indeed a stage, we are mearly players.
Performers and portrayers. Each anothers audience,
outside the gilded cage." -Rush
caric@*******.com
Message no. 22
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 03:52:46 +0000
In article <199703180050.RAA14354@***.netzone.com>, Caric
<caric@*******.COM> writes
>> Of course there is. Silly boy. Bill Gates is immortal, so why
>> shouldn't his software be the same. <grin>
>
>Don't you mean immoral?

Sorry, forgot that bit. :)

I've always found it interesting that FASA chose to extend Microsoft
into 2057, and leave a very subtle hint that Mr. Gates was still around.
The one thing I never understood was the extension of Madonna's life
through drugs, surgery and money. Does someone at FASA actually like
that creature?

There's been a lot of humourous speculation about Windows 20** causing
the great crash of the Matrix. I wonder if FASA would like to commit
themselves to giving us a little bit more of a clue as to what really
happened <g>


--
Avenger
Message no. 23
From: L Canthros <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Armless Auras
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:15:42 EST
On Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:16:44 +0000 Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
writes:
>|Oooh! Attachments, what a great idea! Then I can act
>|like I have one of those cool IE mailers!
>
>There's an Immortal Elven e-mailer????
>--
Run! Run! Run before the conspiracy eats your hard drive alive!

Maybe an Immortal Elf E-mailer forces the user to ignore the EI
conspiracy, so that the user is incapable of exposing their dark and
sinister plot...in the meantime, it turns the user against dragons:)

--
-Canthros
If any man wishes peace, canthros1@***.com
let him prepare for war. lobo1@****.com
--Roman proverb
http://members.aol.com/canthros1/

Further Reading

If you enjoyed reading about Armless Auras, you may also be interested in:

Disclaimer

These messages were posted a long time ago on a mailing list far, far away. The copyright to their contents probably lies with the original authors of the individual messages, but since they were published in an electronic forum that anyone could subscribe to, and the logs were available to subscribers and most likely non-subscribers as well, it's felt that re-publishing them here is a kind of public service.

Thwap!