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Message no. 1
From: Koenig Boldizsar <kobold@********.INEXT.HU>
Subject: Re: armored kimono (Was armored kilts)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:26:43 +0200
> but I'm not sure as to the relative amounts of thickness / layering.

Isn't kimono ladies' wear?
IIRC men wear (wore) hakama *pants* (see aikido wear). The names of
other parts of traditional Japanese men's clothing (*samurai-wear* :)) I
don't know, but AFAIK it tended to be _quite_layered_.

If anyone is more informed about this, please share it, for I myself am
not quite shure about all this.

KoBold
Message no. 2
From: BigDaddy <bigdaddy@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: armored kimono (Was armored kilts)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:18:29 -0400
<snip kobold>
> Isn't kimono ladies' wear?
kimono is a rob plain and simple, anyone can wear it unisexual. Actually
it's one of the few items of clothing both men and women can wear in
Japan.

--
Napalm Sticks to Kidz,
BigDaddy
Message no. 3
From: John E Pederson <pedersje@******.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU>
Subject: Re: armored kimono (Was armored kilts)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:26:35 -0500
Koenig Boldizsar wrote:
>
> > but I'm not sure as to the relative amounts of thickness / layering.
>
> Isn't kimono ladies' wear?

Nope. Both men and women wear kimonos.

> IIRC men wear (wore) hakama *pants* (see aikido wear). The names of
> other parts of traditional Japanese men's clothing (*samurai-wear* :)) I
> don't know, but AFAIK it tended to be _quite_layered_.

Hakama pants are worn by practicing or competing kendokas because they do a
good job of allowing free movement while masking the movements of one's
feet and legs. And yes, they *are* made of heavy fabric, from what little
I've seen.

On a similar note (the idea of armored hakama pants makes sense to me,
anyway) what about the possibility of armored gis? A gi (for those
unfamiliar with the terminology) is the generic uniform used by a lot of
different martial arts (karate, for instance)
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Message no. 4
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: armored kimono (Was armored kilts)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:19:57 -0600
John E Pederson wrote:
/
/ On a similar note (the idea of armored hakama pants makes sense to me,
/ anyway) what about the possibility of armored gis? A gi (for those
/ unfamiliar with the terminology) is the generic uniform used by a lot of
/ different martial arts (karate, for instance)

It could be done, but in order to keep your mobility and freedom of
movement the armor value wouldn't be able to go very high. I'd
envision nothing more than replacing the material with kevlar (or a
similar material). Maybe getting up to 2 Ballistic and 1 Impact.

Judo and Hopkido uniforms are thicker to begin with and would provide a
little more protection (1 point) than a karate/tae kwan do uniform if
"armored".

-David
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