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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Meph)
Subject: Armor question...
Date: Mon Apr 29 16:55:01 2002
Question...

I was just reading the errata on the SR website....And it corrects the armor
section saying that to effect quickness, the armor ratings are added (both
impact PLUS ballistic)....is that right? So a person wearing a camo suit,
would have to have a quickness of 8 or higher for it not to effect them?

Meph
Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Claus Thomsen)
Subject: Armor question...
Date: Mon Apr 29 17:35:01 2002
From: "Meph" <meph@*********.net>
> Question...
>
> I was just reading the errata on the SR website....And it corrects
the armor
> section saying that to effect quickness, the armor ratings are added
(both
> impact PLUS ballistic)....is that right? So a person wearing a camo
suit,
> would have to have a quickness of 8 or higher for it not to effect
them?
>
Nope.. a quickness of 4 is all that's required to handle armor 5/3
without combat pool penalties. I think your confusion comes from not
reading the entire second sentence of the first paragraph:

"To reflect this, for every 2 points of Ballistic AND Impact
armor HIGHER than a character's Quickness Attribute, reduce his or her
Combat Pool by one die."

Meaning that our aforementioned character with quickness 4 and wearing
a full camo suit (5/3) will only have 1 point of armor (ballistic; not
that it matters;)) above his quickness; hence he will not loss combat
pool, because 1 above quickness is less than the 2 required to loss a
die!

\Claus
Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Meph)
Subject: Armor question...
Date: Mon Apr 29 18:40:01 2002
> "To reflect this, for every 2 points of Ballistic AND Impact
> armor HIGHER than a character's Quickness Attribute, reduce his or her
> Combat Pool by one die."
>
> Meaning that our aforementioned character with quickness 4 and wearing
> a full camo suit (5/3) will only have 1 point of armor (ballistic; not
> that it matters;)) above his quickness; hence he will not loss combat
> pool, because 1 above quickness is less than the 2 required to loss a
> die!


But with the "and" isn't that saying to add it?!?! It seems so to me...
So 5 (ballistic) plus 3 (impact) equals 8 total. Therefore, it's -2 die
from combat pool for quickness of four character...right?

Meph
Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Claus Thomsen)
Subject: Armor question...
Date: Mon Apr 29 19:00:01 2002
From: "Meph" <meph@*********.net>
> > "To reflect this, for every 2 points of Ballistic AND
Impact
> > armor HIGHER than a character's Quickness Attribute, reduce his or
her
> > Combat Pool by one die."
> >
> > Meaning that our aforementioned character with quickness 4 and
wearing
> > a full camo suit (5/3) will only have 1 point of armor (ballistic;
not
> > that it matters;)) above his quickness; hence he will not loss
combat
> > pool, because 1 above quickness is less than the 2 required to
loss a
> > die!
>
>
> But with the "and" isn't that saying to add it?!?! It seems so
to me...
> So 5 (ballistic) plus 3 (impact) equals 8 total. Therefore, it's -2
die
> from combat pool for quickness of four character...right?
>
Well.. not according to the example on p. 285 (modified by the
errata), which states that a character (Twitch the wired elf
samurai;)) with quickness 6 losses 2 dice from his combat pool while
wearing 9 points of ballistic and 7 of impact armor. The only way this
is possible is if the armor ratings are added AFTER quickness has been
subtracted:
(9-6 + 7-6) = 4 points of armor above quickness 6 => 2 dice
lost from combat pool.

\Claus
Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Meph)
Subject: Armor question...
Date: Tue Apr 30 01:50:01 2002
Now here the other question. Is it the true rating or the stacked rating???

Meph
Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Claus Thomsen)
Subject: Armor question...
Date: Tue Apr 30 02:10:01 2002
From: "Meph" <meph@*********.net>
> Now here the other question. Is it the true rating or the stacked
rating???
>
It's the true rating; in this case it's the ratings of an armor vest
with plates (4/3), a lined coat (4/2), and a small riot shield (1/2)
totaling at 9/7 !

\Claus
Message no. 7
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Meph)
Subject: Armor question...
Date: Tue Apr 30 11:00:01 2002
> It's the true rating; in this case it's the ratings of an armor vest
> with plates (4/3), a lined coat (4/2), and a small riot shield (1/2)
> totaling at 9/7 !



Cool...thanks!

meph

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