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Message no. 1
From: Marty <s457033@*******.gu.edu.au>
Subject: Assasination techniques.
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:43:51 +1000 (EST)
I'd like to gather everyone's best assasination techniques, just in case
we ever have to do one of our own.... (looking innocent)


Here's one I just thought of due to a recent car accident involving a
friend of mine... it's pretty tricky to set up and has to be the right
kind of target (One who drives for himself).

Basically the strategy involves a vehicular airbag. Airbags have to be
very fast to respond to an impact, and so they use an explosive which
forms a lot of relatively cool gas, and has a moderate detonation
velocity, so the bag doesn't burn. (I hope I haven't lost anyone with the
tech-speak *grin*)
The propellant normally used is Lead Azide (PbN3).....in case anyone is
interested.

Now the trick is that you break into a car, and replace the steering
wheel and hub with one which you've rigged up. The only change is to
place a largish bullet in front of the azide charge, with some form of
extended barrel (it wouldn't need much extra length) Then you cause an
accident of enough force to set off the charge (The spirit power of the same name comes to

mind).

The bullet is likely to hit somewhere in the upper torso of the target,
and hopefully will kill him/her. The scary bit about this technique is
that if the steering wheel is replaced well enough, there is no easy way
to detect the device. A chem. sniffer won't work, because the charge is
meant to be there and will be expected.

A variation on this method is to use a lot of ball bearings. I figure the
velocity imparted to the bullet will be sufficient to do significant damage.
(My friend had both hands on one side of the steering wheel when she crashed
and they were blown THROUGH the closed drivers window.)


Bleach
(Yes I know I'm an evil son-of-a-bitch; you don't need to remind me)
Message no. 2
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:58:17 +0100
Marty said on 17:43/10 Oct 96...

> Now the trick is that you break into a car, and replace the steering
> wheel and hub with one which you've rigged up.

Sounds good, though a slight problem would be that getting a steering
wheel off is _hard_, not something you'll in two seconds do when the car
is parked somewhere on the street. If you want to do this, wait for the
car to go to the garage, where you happen to have paid somebody to replace
the steering wheel with the one you provide.

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Message no. 3
From: dreamwvr@******.co.za (dreamwvr)
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:12:03 -0200 (GMT)
How about the standard and unexpected random killing?

Go up to some poor sod in the Barrens, give him a gun and 500NY. Drop him
off on a convenient corner, near the target. Tell him there's more where
that came from and leave.

Also, the drive by shooting is VERY efficient.

BTW, did this make anyone think of JD X-men? Cotex bombs . . .mmmm.
Message no. 4
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowrn@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:47:15 +0100
In message <Pine.SOL.3.91.961010173015.7975D-100000@*****.student.gu.edu
.au>, Marty <s457033@*******.gu.edu.au> writes
>
>I'd like to gather everyone's best assasination techniques, just in case
>we ever have to do one of our own.... (looking innocent)

A simple, but effective, technique. Take a datachip, perhaps one
containing a simsense recording of the target's favourite opera. Remove
most of the memory, leaving the first ten or twenty minutes, and replace
with a small charge of C-12. The fusing is activated by warmth and
contact: it detonates about ten seconds after being slotted into a jack,
provided the jack's warm :)

--
"There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy."
Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
Message no. 5
From: Marty <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:36:13 +1000
> How about the standard and unexpected random killing?
>
> Go up to some poor sod in the Barrens, give him a gun and 500NY. Drop him
> off on a convenient corner, near the target. Tell him there's more where
> that came from and leave.
>
I want something with STYLE..... I could off the target with my character
from half a klick, given a clear shot, but I'm trying to come up with a
whole catalog of inventive ideas.

Here's another one; Fly a Rhino through a window.
That out to raise a few smiles on here.

Bleach.
Message no. 6
From: Caric <caric@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:27:13 -0700
> I want something with STYLE..... I could off the target with my character
> from half a klick, given a clear shot, but I'm trying to come up with a
> whole catalog of inventive ideas.
>
How about dropping a poodle on them from thirty stories up? Now that takes
skill. :)


Caric-the-dog-dropping-shaman
Message no. 7
From: Michael Orion Jackson <orion@****.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 22:30:18 -0500
Or replace the lead azide with a binary chemical combination, that upon
combination, evolves HCN. Then crosswire the inignition circuit of the
airbag to the car's starter. BTW, the lead azide bit is new to me, I
though the compound in airbags today evolved CO2, but I can't remember the
compound. Alternately, get a Barret Model 82a (my personal preference out
of the current barret model line) and fire an incindeary cartridge into
the car's gas tank. This is doable in ranges in excess of a klick with
the right sights and proper skill. yet another alternative, get a
ping-pong ball and syringe it full of Drano. Epopxy over the hole and slip
it into the target's gas tank around five minutes before the target enters
the vehicle. The gas will dissolve the plastic in the ping-pong ball,
causing the gas to come into contact with the drano fluid. The drano and
gasoline will react explosively, causing the detonation of the gas tank's
remaining stock of fuel. This method is particularly nice in that it
leaves no real evidence and the time of detonation can be varied by
altering the thickness of the plastic container (a standard ping pong ball
lasts about five minutes). Oh well, just a few thoughts off the top of my
head. I'm just a college student, I swear I don't do this for a living.
:) Although, the thought of not having to take out student loans is very
appealing.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Michael Orion Jackson~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~TAMS Class of 1996/UT Class of 199?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~2112 Guadalupe, Rm. 502; Austin, Tx 78705 (The Goodall-Wooten)~~~~~~~
"Goddamn creatures of the night, they never learn." ~Gideon, _The Crow_
Message no. 8
From: Mike Elkins <MikeE@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:53:11 -0500
How about a magic assassination?

There is always Control Thoughts via ritual magic, which can cause him/her to just
not be his usual careful self about bodyguards/protections. "Wow! They had a
sniper waiting on the ONE TIME he left his bullet barrier spell lock in the car..."

High powered elementals doing a remote service...

City spirits "accident" on his limmo.

Spirits "Alienation" on the target: his bodyguards can't remember who they are
supposed to protect, his mages won't allocate spell dice to him, etc. Does require
a GM ruling: can Alienation NOT effect the hit squad?

Ritual magic transforming him into a toad. Not quite an assassination, but usually
sufficient.

Here's a devious one: cast invisibility and silence on him at the same time you
create an illusion of him going down with a bullet between the eyes. The guards
will be so concerned with figuring out where the bullet came from (and why detect
guns didn't find it etc) that your physad can walk up to where the victim is and kill
him, the bodyguards being distracted to somewhere else. Needs quite a lot to get
it to work, but if it works, instant legend.

Double-Domed Mike
Message no. 9
From: The Digital Mage <mn3rge@****.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:09:41 +0100
Here's something that my character The Chemist came up with. Fill the
target's inhaler (if he's asthmatic) or nasal inhaler with whatever
concoction you want. Actually The Chemist made these as concealable
weapons able to spray the agent up to 1 metre away. 3 doses per cannister
with a secondary chamber to teh cnanister holding the usual asthma drugs
(switch the chambers by pulling cannister up, rotating and pushing back
down).

The Digital Mage : mn3rge@****.ac.uk
"Life is a choice, Death....an obligation."-Me
Shadowrun WWW site at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~mn3rge/Shadowrun
Message no. 10
From: James Ojaste <jojaste@*****.CSCLUB.UWATERLOO.CA>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:14:18 -0400
> How about the standard and unexpected random killing?
[snip]
> BTW, did this make anyone think of JD X-men? Cotex bombs . . .mmmm.

But that only works against female targets... :-)

James

--
As paranoia fills his mind, the champion of the night runs through
the shadows cast by the amber streetlights above and he wonders,
"Maybe I should get a life?"
jojaste@******.uwaterloo.ca, http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/u/jojaste
Message no. 11
From: Marty <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:34:40 +1000
> > Now the trick is that you break into a car, and replace the steering
> > wheel and hub with one which you've rigged up.
>
> Sounds good, though a slight problem would be that getting a steering
> wheel off is _hard_, not something you'll in two seconds do when the car
> is parked somewhere on the street. If you want to do this, wait for the
> car to go to the garage, where you happen to have paid somebody to replace
> the steering wheel with the one you provide.
>
Most good assasinations take a lot longer than two seconds to plan and
execute. It'd take some pretty specialised techniques to pull off, I admit.
Message no. 12
From: The Digital Mage <mn3rge@****.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:06:55 +0100
On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Marty wrote:

> I want something with STYLE..... I could off the target with my character
> from half a klick, given a clear shot, but I'm trying to come up with a
> whole catalog of inventive ideas.
>
If you can read the comic strip called Accident Man, its about a hit man
who makes all his hits look like suicides or accidents. He made an
appearance in my SR game years ago and worked wonderfully.

Gun with 2 inch diameter tube, shooting broken glass via compressed CO2 at
the tyres of a car, (car chosen with precision going correct speed etc)
car has blowout and crashes into target who is waiting at bus stop :)

The Digital Mage : mn3rge@****.ac.uk
"Life is a choice, Death....an obligation."-Me
Shadowrun WWW site at http://www.bath.ac.uk/~mn3rge/Shadowrun
Message no. 13
From: Steven Ratkovich <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:19:04 -0500
>> How about the standard and unexpected random killing?
>[snip]
>> BTW, did this make anyone think of JD X-men? Cotex bombs . . .mmmm.
>
>But that only works against female targets... :-)
>
>James
>
<grimace>

Ya know, even *I* managed to resist that one, James... and I was hoping
everyone else could too...



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Message no. 14
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:41:18 +0100
Paul J. Adam said on 18:47/10 Oct 96...

> A simple, but effective, technique. Take a datachip, perhaps one
> containing a simsense recording of the target's favourite opera. Remove
> most of the memory, leaving the first ten or twenty minutes, and replace
> with a small charge of C-12. The fusing is activated by warmth and
> contact: it detonates about ten seconds after being slotted into a jack,
> provided the jack's warm :)

Alternatively, put a special signal after the 20 or so minutes you leave
on, that will detonate the charge. No need for thermometers or anything.
Another possibility may be to make it a BTL and set up some kind of
signal that causes brain death or heart failur, or whatever.

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Message no. 15
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:41:18 +0100
dreamwvr said on 16:12/10 Oct 96...

> How about the standard and unexpected random killing?
>
> Go up to some poor sod in the Barrens, give him a gun and 500NY. Drop him
> off on a convenient corner, near the target. Tell him there's more where
> that came from and leave.
>
> Also, the drive by shooting is VERY efficient.

I saw something about a Belgian gang of the early 1980s on TV a few days
ago -- what they did was commit very violent robberies of supermarkets,
indisciminantly shooting people to get what they wanted (22 people in 3
years I think). The gang has never been caught, but recently there have
been theories that these weren't just robberies, but disguises for
professional hits on right-wing extremists by other right-wingers. This
got me thinking about how to do this sort of thing...

First of all, you'd have to create a cover, by committing a number of
standard robberies where you shoot some shoppers. Then carefully stake out
the supermarket where your intended target shops regularly, and get in
just as (s)he's paying. Then make it look like just another robbery, where
the target gets killed in exactly the same way as all the random victims.
After this, do some more real robberies, to direct attention away from
the fact that you hit one specific target. If you do it right, and manage
to disappear without a trace (hard, I know) nobody will be the wiser
because they'll most likely assume all these were ordinary crimes, not
specific hits.

--
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It's really all the same, and no one's happy and nobody's to blame.
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
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Message no. 16
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 16:25:37 +0000
On 10 Oct 96 at 13:58, Gurth wrote:
> > Now the trick is that you break into a car, and replace the steering
> > wheel and hub with one which you've rigged up.
> Sounds good, though a slight problem would be that getting a steering
> wheel off is _hard_, not something you'll in two seconds do when the car
> is parked somewhere on the street. If you want to do this, wait for the
> car to go to the garage, where you happen to have paid somebody to replace
> the steering wheel with the one you provide.
I am sorry? I have not ever replaced a steering wheel with an airbag, but
normally it is done in less then a minute by an unskilled labourer (like me).
You lift of the middle plate with a screwdriver, loose one screw (not really -
what is the part on the other end ofd a screw called?), pull of the wheel.
Maybe it's more complicated with an airbag...

Sascha
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Message no. 17
From: Marty <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 13:29:18 +1000
> Or replace the lead azide with a binary chemical combination, that upon
> combination, evolves HCN. Then crosswire the inignition circuit of the
> airbag to the car's starter. BTW, the lead azide bit is new to me, I
> though the compound in airbags today evolved CO2, but I can't remember the
> compound.

Nice..... "Honey, do you smell bitter almonds??"
Lead Azide evolves Nitrogen gas, so its pretty similar.

> ping-pong ball and syringe it full of Drano. Epopxy over the hole and slip
> it into the target's gas tank around five minutes before the target enters
> the vehicle. The gas will dissolve the plastic in the ping-pong ball,
> causing the gas to come into contact with the drano fluid. The drano and
> gasoline will react explosively, causing the detonation of the gas tank's
> remaining stock of fuel. This method is particularly nice in that it
> leaves no real evidence and the time of detonation can be varied by


Hmmmm; Have you ever treid that one personally? I can't think of anything
they put in drano that should do that in petrol.

Nice idea though.
Message no. 18
From: Marty <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 13:25:42 +1000
> > I want something with STYLE..... I could off the target with my character
> > from half a klick, given a clear shot, but I'm trying to come up with a
> > whole catalog of inventive ideas.
> >
> How about dropping a poodle on them from thirty stories up? Now that takes
> skill. :)
>
And he'd be known as "the poodle man"... His friends would be saying;
"I knew the poodle man"

It's been too long since I listened to Denis Leary.

OK, Here's another variation on the theme;
Drop a bag of coins or large ball-bearings on the guy; They'll probably get
enough velocity to kill from 30 stories.
Message no. 19
From: Jamie Houston <s430472@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 13:24:17 +1000
On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Caric wrote:

> > I want something with STYLE..... I could off the target with my character
> > from half a klick, given a clear shot, but I'm trying to come up with a
> > whole catalog of inventive ideas.
> >
> How about dropping a poodle on them from thirty stories up? Now that takes
> skill. :)

Has someone been watching too much Dennis Leary? *grin*

Poodle block! Poodle block! AHHHHH!!!>
>
> Caric-the-dog-dropping-shaman
>
Hamish the poodle Scot

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lots of other unmentionable * crying"...And if he asks why God is
pseudonyms) * crying, another cute thing to tell
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Message no. 20
From: James Ojaste <jojaste@*****.CSCLUB.UWATERLOO.CA>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 13:17:15 -0400
> >> BTW, did this make anyone think of JD X-men? Cotex bombs . . .mmmm.
> >But that only works against female targets... :-)
> Ya know, even *I* managed to resist that one, James... and I was hoping
> everyone else could too...

I know... What can I say? It runs in the family.

In my defense, I wasn't the only one to post something like this...

James the Incorrigible
Message no. 21
From: Mike and Jill Johnson <shadow@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 19:09:12 -0700
At 05:38 PM 10/14/96 Gurth wrote:
>First of all, you'd have to create a cover, by committing a number of
>standard robberies where you shoot some shoppers. Then carefully stake out
>the supermarket where your intended target shops regularly, and get in
>just as (s)he's paying. Then make it look like just another robbery, where
>the target gets killed in exactly the same way as all the random victims.
>After this, do some more real robberies, to direct attention away from
>the fact that you hit one specific target. If you do it right, and manage
>to disappear without a trace (hard, I know) nobody will be the wiser
>because they'll most likely assume all these were ordinary crimes, not
>specific hits.
>
>--


Great idea, but I don't think it would work. I know in our group, all the
characters wear armor, and all but one carries some sort of a weapon on them
at all times. They/I would blow most/or all karma to survive the turn until
it's their/my turn, if nothing else it would turn into a blood bath.

Using that logic, why not do a terrorist action and bomb their building. It
would get the same results and mis-direct who the target really was.


Jill
Message no. 22
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:41:00 -0700
An olf friend of mine with way too much time on his hands once informed
me that a good assassination could be done by shooting someone with a
bullet carved from ice.
His theory was that the bullet would rapidly melt, leaving no traceable
balistics evidence.

Personally, I've always liked the idea of offing someone by replacing
their entire diet with left handed molecules!

For those of you who aren't familiar with the concept, the general gist
of this is that normal humans can only consume items made of right
handed molecules (as I understand it right handed has to do with the way
the molecule spirals as it forms)
Anyway, left handed molecules can't be digested.
If you could keep someone eating only these molecules, they could eat
forever and slowly starve to death!
Sure it wouldn't work for a quick hit, but it would be a nice way to
take out a Howard Hughes hermit type corper? :-)

Steven A. Tinner
bluewizard@*****.com
"I need mana for my monkey!"
Message no. 23
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:37:44 +0100
Jill Johnson said on 19:09/15 Oct 96...

[assassination disguised in a series of robberies]
> Great idea, but I don't think it would work. I know in our group, all the
> characters wear armor, and all but one carries some sort of a weapon on them
> at all times. They/I would blow most/or all karma to survive the turn until
> it's their/my turn, if nothing else it would turn into a blood bath.

It wouldn't be a useful technique if you want to kill someone who is
armed and armored all the time. OTOH, there are people who don't wear
body armor as part of their everyday clothes, but who are targets for
assassination by certain groups (probably without knowing it). Think about
someone like an important MOM member being targeted by a Humanis-like
group, for example.

> Using that logic, why not do a terrorist action and bomb their building. It
> would get the same results and mis-direct who the target really was.

Also a possibility. For best results, make it look (even if studied very
carefully) like an attack by a known terrorist movement, so they take the
blame for a hit they didn't make.

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Message no. 24
From: dreamweaver <dreamwvr@******.CO.ZA>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:58:43 -0200
>> ping-pong ball and syringe it full of Drano. Epopxy over the hole and slip
>> it into the target's gas tank around five minutes before the target enters
>> the vehicle. The gas will dissolve the plastic in the ping-pong ball,
>> causing the gas to come into contact with the drano fluid. The drano and
>> gasoline will react explosively, causing the detonation of the gas tank's
>> remaining stock of fuel. This method is particularly nice in that it
>> leaves no real evidence and the time of detonation can be varied by

One problem:
"Hey Mr Baddy, what are you doing around my car there? Are you putting
something into my gas tank? Naughty naught! Bang Bang!"

I'd say 5 minutes is a bit too short a fuse. Maybe use a mechanical device
to release.
Message no. 25
From: Mike Hartmann <hartmann@***********.M.EUNET.DE>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:57:50 +0000
> From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.com>

> An olf friend of mine with way too much time on his hands once informed
> me that a good assassination could be done by shooting someone with a
> bullet carved from ice.
> His theory was that the bullet would rapidly melt, leaving no traceable
> balistics evidence.

Well, I guess the bullet would melt even before it hits.... Heat from
the explosion (if you ever got hit by an empty bullet-case that just
was fired, you'd know what i mean..:-) and velocity would do the
job... Sorry, but no go

> Personally, I've always liked the idea of offing someone by replacing
> their entire diet with left handed molecules!

Cruel idea, but takes a while, doesn't it?

Mike
Message no. 26
From: The Jestyr <s421539@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:41:46 +1000
> Great idea, but I don't think it would work. I know in our group, all the
> characters wear armor, and all but one carries some sort of a weapon on them
> at all times. They/I would blow most/or all karma to survive the turn until
> it's their/my turn, if nothing else it would turn into a blood bath.

AFAIK, we're talking about an assassination here, and "hit" targets very
often are VIPs rather than people able to defend themselves properly.
Anyone who tries assassinating a runner is a braver man (being?) than I. :)

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 27
From: Marty <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:02:37 +1000
> An olf friend of mine with way too much time on his hands once informed
> me that a good assassination could be done by shooting someone with a
> bullet carved from ice.
> His theory was that the bullet would rapidly melt, leaving no traceable
> balistics evidence.
>
The ice would shatter under the acceleration.... I'm not sure what a
bunch of shard of ice would do to someone

If you're worried about ballistics evidence, just cut your gun into
little bits every time you kill someone, and get another one. It's the
smart thing to do, anyway.
Message no. 28
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:02:51 -0700
> Well, I guess the bullet would melt even before it hits.... Heat from
> the explosion (if you ever got hit by an empty bullet-case that just
> was fired, you'd know what i mean..:-) and velocity would do the
> job... Sorry, but no go

Hard to say. I'm nowhere near being a ballistics expert.
Maybe he was talking about another frozen substance. Possibly Dry Ice?

> > Personally, I've always liked the idea of offing someone by replacing
> > their entire diet with left handed molecules!
>
> Cruel idea, but takes a while, doesn't it?

Sure does, and you have to be in control of the person's diet too.
The only way I see this as a possibility would be for a long term
campaign where a PC was working as a servant for a wealthy recluse or
some such thing.
I'll have to arrange for something like that.
I'd hate to see such an evil idea go unused. :-)
Message no. 29
From: Mike and Jill Johnson <shadow@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:56:06 -0700
At 04:44 PM 10/16/96 Lady Jestyr wrote:
>
>AFAIK, we're talking about an assassination here, and "hit" targets very
>often are VIPs rather than people able to defend themselves properly.
>Anyone who tries assassinating a runner is a braver man (being?) than I. :)
>


I don't know about how much "easier" it is to assassinate a VIP, who has
multiple bodyguards then a paranoid runner. I know when the group went
after the Seattle Oyabun, they ended up with one dead. This was back before
threat pools and so on and they still had to work for it.

The hit:

Three members of the group, ended up owing a very powerful mob figure
a lot of money. To pay off the debt, they agreed to hit the Oyabun. It
was during the play off games, the Seahawks vs the Raiders, and the winner
went to the Super bowl. They received information the Oyabun was going to
be at the game.

They bought Lone Star uniforms, had the decker forge paperwork saying they
was there for riot control and went to help work the crowd at the dome.
Towards the last few minutes of the game, they went to the suite, opened the
doors opened fire. Out of the 25 people in the room, 13 of them were guards.
All of them laid down their life, so the Oyabun would have one turn.

When the hit was done, and the riots broke out (Seattle lost) they disappeared
into the crowd.

Jill
Message no. 30
From: Michael Orion Jackson <orion@****.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 01:43:52 -0500
Re getting caught slipping something into gas tank: find one of my
characters with a stealth skill under 4, I dares ya. ;) Seriously, most
assasins will be sneaky enough to pull it off...

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Message no. 31
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:09:59 +0100
The Jestyr said on 7:41/17 Oct 96...

> AFAIK, we're talking about an assassination here, and "hit" targets very
> often are VIPs rather than people able to defend themselves properly.
> Anyone who tries assassinating a runner is a braver man (being?) than I. :)

That shouldn't be too difficult either, if you're not worried about his or
her buddies coming after you. A sniper in the apartment on the other side
of the street could do it easily, or a bomb in the apartment or car. Hell,
if you can't get into either, place a (concealed and command-detonated)
bomb at the front door of the apartment building, and blow it up when the
target is coming out...

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Message no. 32
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:19:07 -0700
Michael Orion Jackson wrote:
>
> Re getting caught slipping something into gas tank: find one of my
> characters with a stealth skill under 4, I dares ya. ;) Seriously, most
> assasins will be sneaky enough to pull it off...

Yeah, but there's just one problem.
Not all the SR vehicles use gas anymore.
Esp. corp suits, who never need to leave Seattle's electric Grid-Link
system.
Hope Joe Sammy did his homework right, cause he'd look awfully silly
trying to fit anything in the gas tank of an electric car! :-)

Steven A. Tinner
"Pasty Bits"
Message no. 33
From: Richard Swen <rswen@***.QUALCOMM.COM>
Subject: Assasination techniques.
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:42:58 -0700
This is a technique that will only work with someone who chews on
Pencils/Pens.

Step 1. Modify a pen to contain the following items:
a) Humidity & heat sensor
b) Detonator
c) Small quantity of C12

Step 2. Replace his favorite pen with the one you supply.

The next time he chews on his pen he gets a real bang.
Message no. 34
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 13:03:12 +0100
Richard Swen said on 13:42/17 Oct 96...

> This is a technique that will only work with someone who chews on
> Pencils/Pens.
>
> Step 1. Modify a pen to contain the following items:
> a) Humidity & heat sensor
> b) Detonator
> c) Small quantity of C12
>
> Step 2. Replace his favorite pen with the one you supply.
>
> The next time he chews on his pen he gets a real bang.

You could replace the C12 by a bullet firing out the back end of the
pencil :) Anyway check out Running Gear (see my web page) for everyday
gadgets filled with explosives...

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Message no. 35
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 08:07:51 -0600
Gurth wrote:
|
|Richard Swen said on 13:42/17 Oct 96...
|
|> This is a technique that will only work with someone who chews on
|> Pencils/Pens.
|>
|> Step 1. Modify a pen to contain the following items:
|> a) Humidity & heat sensor
|> b) Detonator
|> c) Small quantity of C12
|>
|> Step 2. Replace his favorite pen with the one you supply.
|>
|> The next time he chews on his pen he gets a real bang.
|
|You could replace the C12 by a bullet firing out the back end of the
|pencil :) Anyway check out Running Gear (see my web page) for everyday
|gadgets filled with explosives...

Or, you could replace their pencils with ones that have been soaked in a
vile poison.

-David

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Message no. 36
From: The Digital Mage <mn3rge@****.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 15:16:57 +0100
If you have time to play with, pay some one who works in the target's
house (assuming the target has home help) to stir the targets coffee every
morning with a match. Apparently after a while the chemicals in teh match
head will build to toxic levels. This idea was originally in the comic
strip 'For a few troubles more' which appeared in the UK's Crisis
magazine.

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Message no. 37
From: Mike and Jill Johnson <shadow@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:16:18 -0700
At 10:00 PM 10/16/96 -0500, you wrote:
>The hit:
>
>Three members of the group, ended up owing a very powerful mob figure
>a lot of money. To pay off the debt, they agreed to hit the Oyabun. It
>was during the play off games, the Seahawks vs the Raiders, and the winner
>went to the Super bowl. They received information the Oyabun was going to
>be at the game.
>
>They bought Lone Star uniforms, had the decker forge paperwork saying they
>was there for riot control and went to help work the crowd at the dome.
>Towards the last few minutes of the game, they went to the suite, opened the
>doors opened fire. Out of the 25 people in the room, 13 of them were guards.
>All of them laid down their life, so the Oyabun would have one turn.
>
>When the hit was done, and the riots broke out (Seattle lost) they disappeared
>into the crowd.
>
>Jill
>

She forget to mention that:

1 We used a "Vindicator" to hose down the room.
2 The member that got almost killed ran into the room and was ambushed to 2
mages that were hiding on
each side of the door. Boy was he pissed.
3 The Oyabun used his action to call his "Second in command" and say "I'm
dead your in charge now".
4 Of the 25 in the room only 3 or 4 lived and most of them were innocents..
Oops...
5 After the Seahawks lost we cast mob mind to incense the riots to higher
levels and cover our exit.
6 My charactor which was the leader ended up being captured later and mind
probed into telling the whole
story. This caused him to go totally out of controll <gm took him over>
and procede to try to kill all
the yaks he could find in Seattle. Which allowed one of the GMs NPC to
trick him into also killing some
of the higher ups in the mob thus allowing her NPC to move way up in the
leadership of the mob.


Doc
Message no. 38
From: Mike and Jill Johnson <shadow@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:19:33 -0700
How about this... If the target has a cat that they really like, slip into
the apartment/house/living quarters and cover the cats claws with a contact
poison. When the target comes home and holds the cat and pets the animal to
happiness the cat does its "kneeding" routine with its claws and poisons the
target.

Doc
Message no. 39
From: mike.paff@*****.COM
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:35:18 -0700
> How about this... If the target has a cat that they really like, slip into
> the apartment/house/living quarters and cover the cats claws with a contact
> poison. When the target comes home and holds the cat and pets the animal to
> happiness the cat does its "kneeding" routine with its claws and poisons
the
> target.
>
> Doc
>
This is more likely to kill the cat than the target. The cat would probably
lick off the poison while it is grooming itself.
Message no. 40
From: Richard Swen <rswen@***.QUALCOMM.COM>
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:00:04 -0700
At 10:35 AM 10/18/96 -0700, mike.paff@*****.COM wrote:
>> How about this... If the target has a cat that they really like, slip=
into
>> the apartment/house/living quarters and cover the cats claws with a=
contact
>> poison. When the target comes home and holds the cat and pets the animal=
to
>> happiness the cat does its "kneeding" routine with its claws and
poisons=
the
>> target.
>>
>> Doc
>>
>This is more likely to kill the cat than the target. The cat would=
probably
>lick off the poison while it is grooming itself.
>
>
How about using a genetically engineered bug instead of poison as in the=
Star
Trek Next Gen® episode. That way there is no way of affecting anyone=
other than
the intended target.
Message no. 41
From: dhinkley@***.ORG
Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 11:39:45 +0000
> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:02:37 +1000
> From: Marty <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
> Subject: Re: Assasination techniques.

[Snip]

> If you're worried about ballistics evidence, just cut your gun into
> little bits every time you kill someone, and get another one. It's the
> smart thing to do, anyway.
>
A much cheaper way is to use a automatic pistol with a removable
barrel, like Colt's Government Model (M1911A1, 45 cal). After the
shooting replace the barrel with a new one, cut the old one in to
three pieces and put each of the pieses in to seperate dumpsters or
in to the bay. Even if some one found one or more of the pieces there
is little risk as most people would not recognize it. Even the
authorities would have a major problem as these barrels are niether
serial numbered or subject to any formof goverment control. Currently
in the United States they can be purchased by mail order, and in the
case of the Colt Pistol the goverment surplus barrels work fine. And
for the truly parinoid change the firing pin. Athat point even the
brass can not be linked to the gun.

This system has two other advantages worth considering a legaly
registered gun can be used, and could be safely subjected to
balistic testing by the authorities alowing them to prove it was not
the murder weapon. And secondly in the case of the Colt pistol it
would not change the set up and sight arangement of that particular
pistol.


David Hinkley
dhinkley@***.org
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little temporary safety deserve niether liberty or
safety.
Ben Franklin

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