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Message no. 1
From: Dvixen <dvixen@********.COM>
Subject: Astral Perception Question...
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:07:26 -0800
If a mage can be blind and still be able to Perceive Astrally, is it
possible for a mage that isn't blind, to Perceive while their eyes are
closed?

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Message no. 2
From: Justin Pinnow <jpinnow@*****.EDU>
Subject: Re: Astral Perception Question...
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:25:39 -0500
Dvixen wrote:

> If a mage can be blind and still be able to Perceive Astrally, is it
> possible for a mage that isn't blind, to Perceive while their eyes are
> closed?

Yes. Astral Perception isn't via the physical eyes. So, no matter what
happens to your eyes, you can still astrally perceive. Don't forget the
+2 target number modifier for doing anything solely mundane while
astrally perceiving, though.

<Snip>
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Message no. 3
From: Caric <caric@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Astral Perception Question...
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:45:34 -0700
> If a mage can be blind and still be able to Perceive Astrally, is it
> possible for a mage that isn't blind, to Perceive while their eyes are
> closed?
>
We have always played it that blind characters could still astrally
percieve, but that may be just something we decided.


Caric
Message no. 4
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Astral Perception Question...
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:58:15 +0100
Caric said on 10:45/20 Nov 96...

> We have always played it that blind characters could still astrally
> percieve, but that may be just something we decided.

It's stated explicitly in Elven Fire that there's a blind mage who
notices the players by perceiving astrally (I won't say more because of
possible spoilers).

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Message no. 5
From: Timothy P Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Astral Perception Question...
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:31:28 -0800
>
> If a mage can be blind and still be able to Perceive Astrally, is it
> possible for a mage that isn't blind, to Perceive while their eyes are
> closed?
>
> --
> Dvixen/Snow Leopard/Celt/Queen of Swords dvixen@********.com
> "Snow Melts"
> The opinions expressed are those of the myriad voices in my head

As far as I'm concerned....also Perception is a great counter to anysituation
where the visual penalties are greater than +2 (the penalty for interacting with
real world while percieveing..) Like say extreme darkness or smoke..:)

~Tim
Message no. 6
From: Steve Kenson <TalonMail@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Astral Perception Question
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 09:35:41 -0500
>If a mage can be blind and still be able to Perceive Astrally, is it
>possible for a mage that isn't blind, to Perceive while their eyes are
>closed?

IMHO, yes it is. Astral Perception is a "sixth sense" that really doesn't
require the physical eyes to use: you "see" with your "spirit" not
with your
eyes. That's why those security mages seem to be dozing all of the time. Many
of them aren't astrally projecting but they are using astral perception. I
use this ability in my campaign to make magicians more "spooky" by having
them act sometimes like they've got eyes in the back of their head and such.

Steve
Message no. 7
From: Robert Watkins <robertdw@*******.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: Astral Perception Question...
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:33:50 +1100
>As far as I'm concerned....also Perception is a great counter to anysituation
>where the visual penalties are greater than +2 (the penalty for
>interacting with
>real world while percieveing..) Like say extreme darkness or smoke..:)

Smoke is an effective barrier to Astral Perception, as is fog or mist.
Remember, if you can't see through it normally, you can't see through it
on the Astral, either. Low-light situations, however, are easily set off
through Astral Perception.


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Message no. 8
From: Kevin White <kevw@*****.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Astral Perception Question...
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 09:11:07 -0600
Robert Watkins wrote:
>
> Smoke is an effective barrier to Astral Perception, as is fog or mist.
> Remember, if you can't see through it normally, you can't see through it

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> on the Astral, either. Low-light situations, however, are easily set off
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> through Astral Perception.
>

Wouldn't it be the case, if this were true, that the handy mage astral
perceiving the sam to check how wired he was wouldn't be possible 'cause
last time I looked I couldn't see through clothes :)

Diamond
Message no. 9
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Astral Perception Question...
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 12:39:51 +0000
|
|Robert Watkins wrote:
|>
|> Smoke is an effective barrier to Astral Perception, as is fog or mist.
|> Remember, if you can't see through it normally, you can't see through it
|
|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> on the Astral, either. Low-light situations, however, are easily set off
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> through Astral Perception.
|>
|
|Wouldn't it be the case, if this were true, that the handy mage astral
|perceiving the sam to check how wired he was wouldn't be possible 'cause
|last time I looked I couldn't see through clothes :)

The persons aura extends outside the body.
It's the aura that is checked.

With smoke, the smoke a long distance cover...

(Auras only extend a few inches to a foot outside the body...)
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Message no. 10
From: "Robert Pendergrast (Tom)" <3011_3@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Astral Perception Question...
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 10:39:27 -0700
<snip>

> Wouldn't it be the case, if this were true, that the handy mage astral
> perceiving the sam to check how wired he was wouldn't be possible 'cause
> last time I looked I couldn't see through clothes :)
>
> Diamond

Yeah, but your arua extends around you. You aren't looking at the sammy,
you're looking at the aura surrounding him.


-Tom-
Message no. 11
From: Peter Bailey <pbailey@***.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Astral Perception Question...
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 07:17:54 -0800
Hi Kevin,

>>Smoke is an effective barrier to Astral Perception, as is fog or mist.
>>Remember, if you can't see through it normally, you can't see through it
>>on the Astral, either. Low-light situations, however, are easily set off
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> through Astral Perception.
>>
>
> Wouldn't it be the case, if this were true, that the handy mage astral
> perceiving the sam to check how wired he was wouldn't be possible 'cause
> last time I looked I couldn't see through clothes :)

Not at all. The aura extends beyond the clothing/armour etc. I can't
think of any specific references to it in the rules off hand, but I
would say the aura extends about 6 inches from the body itself. The
crystal wavers are of that opinion at least.

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Message no. 12
From: Robert Watkins <robertdw@*******.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: Astral Perception Question...
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:21:45 +1100
>> Smoke is an effective barrier to Astral Perception, as is fog or mist.
>> Remember, if you can't see through it normally, you can't see through it
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> on the Astral, either. Low-light situations, however, are easily set off
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> through Astral Perception.
>>
>
>Wouldn't it be the case, if this were true, that the handy mage astral
>perceiving the sam to check how wired he was wouldn't be possible 'cause
>last time I looked I couldn't see through clothes :)

Don't be picky... the aura extends a little bit past the body.


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Message no. 13
From: Ignacio De Lucas morrisjila@*******.com
Subject: Astral perception. question
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:25:38 GMT
I know you have already gone through this, but my GM told my you where
discussing about the earth being magically active, or something like that,
this pups up because a couple of sessions ago y used my astral perception to
track an enemy but when I saw to the flor it was magically active, so I wuld
apreciate if you could tell me why, just a small answer not necesarilly a
complete explanation.
Thanks

ATTE el MORRIS


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Message no. 14
From: Dennis Steinmeijer dv8@********.nl
Subject: Astral perception. question
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:04:51 +0200
> I know you have already gone through this, but my GM told my you where
> discussing about the earth being magically active, or something like that,
> this pups up because a couple of sessions ago y used my astral perception
to
> track an enemy but when I saw to the flor it was magically active, so I
wuld
> apreciate if you could tell me why, just a small answer not necesarilly a
> complete explanation.
> Thanks
>
> ATTE el MORRIS

I think you didn't see a "magically active" floor,...but rather the
"life-force", so to say, of the planet. The astral realm is sustained by
life, and since the planet is the biggest single living thing *on* this
planet it has an aura of itself.

Dennis

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