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Message no. 1
From: Hunter griffinhq@****.com
Subject: Astral Quest questions
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 06:01:35 -0400
After finally getting my hands (paws?) on a copy of MitS and browsing
through the section on astral quests, I came up with (IMO) a rather
important question:
If you astrally quest for "Learn Spell" which reduces the force of the
spell for purposes of karma by one point per rating and adds one dice per
rating (p. 94 bottom right corner). Does this mean that I can make a
rating 5 astral quest for a force 5 spell and not have to pay any karma
for it? (Which would seem to me would eliminate both the time and karma
cost of the spell to zero.)
Anyone help me with an interpretation here?

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Message no. 2
From: Sommers sommers@*****.umich.edu
Subject: Astral Quest questions
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:30:28 -0400
At 06:01 AM 5/12/99 , Hunter wrote:
> After finally getting my hands (paws?) on a copy of MitS and browsing
>through the section on astral quests, I came up with (IMO) a rather
>important question:
> If you astrally quest for "Learn Spell" which reduces the force of the
>spell for purposes of karma by one point per rating and adds one dice per
>rating (p. 94 bottom right corner). Does this mean that I can make a
>rating 5 astral quest for a force 5 spell and not have to pay any karma
>for it? (Which would seem to me would eliminate both the time and karma
>cost of the spell to zero.)
> Anyone help me with an interpretation here?

I can try. ;)

In my game, I would say that there is still a minimum Karma cost of 1 no
matter what was done. Besides, for a Force 5 quest its possible that he may
burn some more Karma just to survive it anyway.

As for the time, its going to be reduced a lot. But I don't have a problem
with that seeing as how he is trolling the upper reaches of the metaplanes.
However, the time required is still the time required. All the Quest does
here is add dice to the test for how long he takes to learn that spell. Its
still possible to blow the rolls. And even if he doesn't, there is going to
at least be some fraction of a day left over.

Sommers
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Message no. 3
From: TalonMail@***.com TalonMail@***.com
Subject: Astral Quest questions
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:51:13 EDT
>>>If you astrally quest for "Learn Spell" which reduces the force of
the
spell for purposes of karma by one point per rating and adds one dice per
rating (p. 94 bottom right corner). Does this mean that I can make a
rating 5 astral quest for a force 5 spell and not have to pay any karma
for it? (Which would seem to me would eliminate both the time and karma
cost of the spell to zero.)<<<

IMHO, the effective Force of the spell cannot drop below 1.

S.

Kenson's Cranial Collection
http://members.aol.com/talonmail
Message no. 4
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Astral Quest questions
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:21:01 EDT
In a message dated 5/12/1999 12:59:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
TalonMail@***.com writes:

>
> >>>If you astrally quest for "Learn Spell" which reduces the
force of the
> spell for purposes of karma by one point per rating and adds one dice per
> rating (p. 94 bottom right corner). Does this mean that I can make a
> rating 5 astral quest for a force 5 spell and not have to pay any karma
> for it? (Which would seem to me would eliminate both the time and karma
> cost of the spell to zero.)<<<
>
> IMHO, the effective Force of the spell cannot drop below 1.

OH YES!!!!! (sorry, had to do that). This is something that I've been
wondering what happened too since Grimoire I. Hell Steve, got a flipside
question for you then. If you do the same thing for an Enchantment
Formulae...what then????

-K (who does agree with the minimal ruling as well, and believes this should
be an ERRATA of some sort VERY SOON!!!)

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