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Message no. 1
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: Atmosphere (was RE: SR Future Products and Such)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:09:09 -0500
> > I guess I'm not seeing the lack of atmosphere. If anything, the
> > atmosphere is getting richer from where I'm sitting. Please clarify
> > how there's a lack of atmosphere in the recent (say, the last two
> > years or so) crop of material.
>
> I don't think it's a question of no atmosphere. You couldn't very well
> have a game with elves and guns and trolls and magic and decking without
> some atmosphere. I think the comparison lies in the 'lessening' of
> atmosphere.

Okay, let me rephrase and restate what I said, then:

I guess I'm also not seeing the lessening of atmosphere in the game. If
anything, the atmosphere is still getting richer from where I'm sitting.
Please clarify how there's a lessening of atmosphere in the recent (say, the
last two years or so) crop of game material.

Better?

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Message no. 2
From: Mark Fender markf@******.com
Subject: Atmosphere (was RE: SR Future Products and Such)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:48:49 -0500
> > > I guess I'm not seeing the lack of atmosphere. If anything, the
> > > atmosphere is getting richer from where I'm sitting. Please clarify
> > > how there's a lack of atmosphere in the recent (say, the last two
> > > years or so) crop of material.
> >
> > I don't think it's a question of no atmosphere. You couldn't very well
> > have a game with elves and guns and trolls and magic and decking without
> > some atmosphere. I think the comparison lies in the 'lessening' of
> > atmosphere.
>
> Okay, let me rephrase and restate what I said, then:
>
> I guess I'm also not seeing the lessening of atmosphere in the game. If
> anything, the atmosphere is still getting richer from where I'm sitting.
> Please clarify how there's a lessening of atmosphere in the recent (say,
> the
> last two years or so) crop of game material.
>
> Better?
>
Perfect. Unfortunately, in the meantime I've become totally confused as to
what Twist did mean, so I can't really answer that one now. As for my own
opinion, I feel that there have been a heck of a lot of RULEbooks lately and
not as many SOURCEbooks. Hopefully this will change as the old stuff gets
recycled but new stuff starts coming out.
Message no. 3
From: Twist0059@***.com Twist0059@***.com
Subject: Atmosphere (was RE: SR Future Products and Such)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:01:28 EDT
In a message dated 8/17/99 5:55:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, markf@******.com
writes:

> > I guess I'm also not seeing the lessening of atmosphere in the game. If
> > anything, the atmosphere is still getting richer from where I'm sitting.
> > Please clarify how there's a lessening of atmosphere in the recent (say,
> > the
> > last two years or so) crop of game material.
> >
> > Better?


It's not that there's been a lessening of atmosphere, it's that there has
been nothing supporting the OOP products that provided SR's atmosphere. If
you have a complete SR collection, you're fine. You know what is going on
and have no problems with the newer stuff. If you're one of the newbies SR3
brought in, you think it's AD&D in the future. Current SR (SR3) looks like
nothing but a game of thug criminals doing crime because they enjoy it. All
the established mood of how and why things happened and continue to happen
the way they have in SR's world are gone with the OOPs. I'm not talking
about the histories in the fronts of SR3 or New Seattle. I mean flavor text
showing the points of view that exist in SR. You can see this in the
Shadowtalk as well. Before it used to be people of different opinions
contradicting each other based on those opinions. Now it's more of direct
information like in the paragraphs. Not always, but most of the time. The
whole feel that the ShadowTalk is people participating in a highly illegal
activity in a world that would crush them for trying to tell truth beyond the
corporate-sanctioned truths is gone or fading.




-Twist

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