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Message no. 1
From: Brett Borger bxb121@***.edu
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:38:27 -0500 (EST)
Can anyone tell me what the frag "aggro" means, and give some examples
of how it would be used in context?

Thanks.
-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 2
From: Blackadder blkadder@****.net
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:44:54 -0500
-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.edu>



|Can anyone tell me what the frag "aggro" means, and give some
examples
|of how it would be used in context?
|
|Thanks.
|-=SwiftOne=-

-----BlackAdder Adds-----

I'm not an Aussie, but I'm pretty sure I can tell you what
'aggro' means. It's slang for aggrivation.
Message no. 3
From: GRANITE granite@**.net
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 08:43:21 -0700
> Can anyone tell me what the frag "aggro" means, and give some examples
> of how it would be used in context?

Well..without seeing this in the context you found it..I woud say..It
is short for agriculture..And could be used anywhere that the word
farm or agriculture would be used..
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Message no. 4
From: A Halliwell u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:59:30 +0000 (GMT)
And verily, did GRANITE hastily scribble thusly...
|
|> Can anyone tell me what the frag "aggro" means, and give some examples
|> of how it would be used in context?
|
|Well..without seeing this in the context you found it..I woud say..It
|is short for agriculture..And could be used anywhere that the word
|farm or agriculture would be used..

Nahhhh... Aggro, at least as I know it, is short for "agrivation" and usually
means a "violent act", like a riot.

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Message no. 5
From: David Cordy DCordy@****.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 08:09:51 -0800
> Can anyone tell me what the frag "aggro" means, and give some examples
> of how it would be used in context?
>
> Thanks.
> -=SwiftOne=-
>
-----BlackAdder Adds-----
I'm not an Aussie, but I'm pretty sure I can tell you what
'aggro' means. It's slang for aggravation.

++++++++++

Well..without seeing this in the context you found it..I woud say..It
is short for agriculture..And could be used anywhere that the word
farm or agriculture would be used..
--------------------------------GRANITE

Both are correct, depending on the syntax (something both replies missed).

Aggressive-
That mob sure turned aggro when they found out there was only one Dunky doll
left.

Agriculture
We extracted some mook from an agro research site out in Snomish(sp?).

Note- I think that there is only one g when referring to agriculture, and
two g's for the abbreviation of aggressive. This is all IMHO, of course.

David C.
Message no. 6
From: GRANITE granite@**.net
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:06:36 -0700
> Nahhhh... Aggro, at least as I know it, is short for "agrivation" and
usually
> means a "violent act", like a riot.

Blackadder said that too..but without a context..it makes it rather
difficult..hmm..of course perhaps the referance to Aussie was
supposed to put it into context..And having never been to that
land..ANd not having known any Aussies [in the physical] it doesn't
help define anything for me..
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Message no. 7
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:41:49 -0400
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Brett Borger."
]Can anyone tell me what the frag "aggro" means, and give some examples
]of how it would be used in context?
]
]Thanks.
]-=SwiftOne=-

On a related note, what the heck does "breeder" mean,
in 2050s parlance? I know it refers to humans, but I'm
not sure if it means anything special. Tusker, that's pretty
obvious. Dandelion-eater, that's easy enough to grasp.
But breeder...there must be something blatantly, glaringly
obvious that I'm missing. Enlighten me, please.

Scott
Message no. 8
From: Steven A. Tinner bluewizard@*****.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:25:10 -0500
>Can anyone tell me what the frag "aggro" means, and give some examples
>of how it would be used in context?

I'm not an Aussie, but I watch one on TV.
Steve Irwin, The Crocodile Hunter says "aggro" all the time, and he's
usually referring to big dangerous animals.
I assume it means aggressive.

Any input from Lady J?

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Message no. 9
From: Marc Renouf renouf@********.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:29:11 -0500 (EST)
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Brett Borger wrote:

> Can anyone tell me what the frag "aggro" means, and give some examples
> of how it would be used in context?

In addition to the other definitions that folks have given, I have
heard "aggro" used as a slang form of "shit." This stems from the
"agricultural" aspect of the word, wherein manure (cow shit) is used as
fertilizer.
In context, it may be used like so:

"Look, buddy, don't gimme any aggro, or I'll come over there and
stomp yer face in."

Note that in this context, both "aggravation" and "shit" would be
appropriate fill-ins for the term.

Marc
Message no. 10
From: A Halliwell u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:42:06 +0000 (GMT)
And verily, did Marc Renouf hastily scribble thusly...
|
|
|
|On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Brett Borger wrote:
|
|> Can anyone tell me what the frag "aggro" means, and give some examples
|> of how it would be used in context?
|
| In addition to the other definitions that folks have given, I have
|heard "aggro" used as a slang form of "shit." This stems from the
|"agricultural" aspect of the word, wherein manure (cow shit) is used as
|fertilizer.
| In context, it may be used like so:
|
| "Look, buddy, don't gimme any aggro, or I'll come over there and
|stomp yer face in."

Nahhhh... They form means "Don't give me any AGGRIVATION"....
Nothing to do with agriculture.


|
| Note that in this context, both "aggravation" and "shit" would be
|appropriate fill-ins for the term.

Aggro stands for Aggrivation... Not "shit"....
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Message no. 11
From: XaOs [David Goth] xaos@*****.net
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:51:55 -0600
> On a related note, what the heck does "breeder" mean,
> in 2050s parlance? I know it refers to humans, but I'm
> not sure if it means anything special. Tusker, that's pretty
> obvious. Dandelion-eater, that's easy enough to grasp.
> But breeder...there must be something blatantly, glaringly
> obvious that I'm missing. Enlighten me, please.

I think it's referring to the fact that most Homo Sapiens births are of the
Homo Sapiens Sapiens variety. The other meta-types are far less common.
(Right?)

-XaOs-
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Message no. 12
From: Marc Renouf renouf@********.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:07:41 -0500 (EST)
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, A Halliwell wrote:

> | "Look, buddy, don't gimme any aggro, or I'll come over there and
> |stomp yer face in."
>
> Nahhhh... They form means "Don't give me any AGGRIVATION"....
> Nothing to do with agriculture.

Perhaps I should have used the other example I heard. "Piling on
the aggro." It's pretty hard for anything other than "shit" to fit into
the context that that one was used in.

Marc
Message no. 13
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:18:23 +0100
According to Scott Wheelock, at 12:41 on 17 Feb 99, the word on
the street was...

> On a related note, what the heck does "breeder" mean, in 2050s
> parlance? I know it refers to humans, but I'm not sure if it means
> anything special. Tusker, that's pretty obvious. Dandelion-eater,
> that's easy enough to grasp. But breeder...there must be something
> blatantly, glaringly obvious that I'm missing. Enlighten me, please.

I never really understood that insult, especially because it's supposedly
used by orks -- the race that gets four or six kids at once... Perhaps it
refers to humans being the largest race (numbers-wise), and thus could be
seen as having "out-bred" the others? (Which, BTW, is very illogical
reasoning.)

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Message no. 14
From: XaOs [David Goth] xaos@*****.net
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:28:15 -0600
> > | "Look, buddy, don't gimme any aggro, or I'll come over there and
> > |stomp yer face in."
> >
> > Nahhhh... They form means "Don't give me any AGGRIVATION"....
> > Nothing to do with agriculture.
>
> Perhaps I should have used the other example I heard. "Piling on
> the aggro." It's pretty hard for anything other than "shit" to fit
into
> the context that that one was used in.
>

"Piling on the aggression." Yeah, I could see that. (Heck, "Piling on the
aggrivation" even sounds okay to my ears. <shrug>).

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Message no. 15
From: Kama kama@*******.net
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:55:20 -0500 (EST)
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Gurth wrote:

> According to Scott Wheelock, at 12:41 on 17 Feb 99, the word on
> the street was...
>
> > On a related note, what the heck does "breeder" mean, in 2050s
> > parlance? I know it refers to humans, but I'm not sure if it means
> > anything special. Tusker, that's pretty obvious. Dandelion-eater,
> > that's easy enough to grasp. But breeder...there must be something
> > blatantly, glaringly obvious that I'm missing. Enlighten me, please.
>
> I never really understood that insult, especially because it's supposedly
> used by orks -- the race that gets four or six kids at once... Perhaps it
> refers to humans being the largest race (numbers-wise), and thus could be
> seen as having "out-bred" the others? (Which, BTW, is very illogical
> reasoning.)
>

I think it is in the Shadowrun 2 book, in the discussion about gangs that
the terms has it's origin. (I apologize if the citation is incorrect, I'm
at work and can't check it.) Anyways, the discussion is about the differnt
types of gang members, such as "warriors". One of the groups refered to is
"breeders" who are generally attractive people with no real fighting
ability whose primary person is to provide recreational opportunities to
current gang members and children who become the next generation of gang
member. There is very definately a hard edge to the term (i.e."only a
breeder") as such people are generally considerd to be easily replaced.

Kama
Message no. 16
From: Jordan findlerman@*****.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:38:35 -0800 (PST)
> > On a related note, what the heck does "breeder" mean, in 2050s
> > parlance? I know it refers to humans, but I'm not sure if it means
> > anything special. Tusker, that's pretty obvious. Dandelion-eater,
> > that's easy enough to grasp. But breeder...there must be something
> > blatantly, glaringly obvious that I'm missing. Enlighten me,
please.
>
> I never really understood that insult, especially because it's
supposedly
> used by orks

Hmmm...I have only heard it used a lot by Elves. I took this to mean
the following.
Given: Elves don't much care for Humans, and Vise Versa.
Also Given: The metahuman races elves and dwarves are conceived in 1
of two ways.
1. The two parenting parties involved are of that metahuman class. or
2. They are born of Human parents (Homo sapien sapien) and have
'goblinized' as a result of UGE (Unexplained Genetic Expression)
Now then, Given elven attitudes twards most humans, elves may see
human's only 'redeeming factor is the ability to produce elven
offspring, ence the word breeder : You are only good for making more
elves, you have no other worth.

To a lesser (perhaps more) extent, the Trolls and Ork metaspecies may
have this viewpoint too as the two means of 'bringing little trolls
and orks into this world' are:
1. Being born of two parents of the metaspecies, or
2. 'Goblinizing' at Puberty.

Again, given inter-(meta)human-relation attitudes, orks and trolls may
see humans only redeeming trait as:
You have the ability to produce humans who goblinize into beutiful
little trolls and orks.

Just my 0.02¥ (still waiting for someone to tell me what local tax
rates are for the server's location.)

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Message no. 17
From: Bob Tockley zzdeden@*******.com.au
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:41:59 +1000
At 10:38 AM 2/17/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Can anyone tell me what the frag "aggro" means, and give some examples
>of how it would be used in context?

If you're meaning in a purely Australian way, "agro" stems from the word
aggrivation. It is also an ten year old furry puppet that used to host
various children's shows and has now moved on to radio.

Some examples of how agro is used, eh? Well, what's kinda is that only
yobbos really use the term - that "footy", "gazza",
"shazza", "bazza",
"arvo", and other similar expressions. Those of us with any intelligence
steer clear of those terms - or at least try to.

- I was talking to this guy and then he just freaks out - goes all agro on
me.

- It was the most agro ma'da'fa'kin koala I ever saw. (hehehe... Sorry,
it is Australian - we've got to chuck a koala, crocodile, or kangaroo in
there somewhere...)


(>) ARKHAM
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Message no. 18
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*******.com.au
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:33:46 +1000
> I'm not an Aussie, but I'm pretty sure I can tell you what
>'aggro' means. It's slang for aggrivation.

Yes, or for 'aggressive'. Depends on the context.

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 19
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*******.com.au
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:33:50 +1000
>> | "Look, buddy, don't gimme any aggro, or I'll come over there and
>> |stomp yer face in."
>>
>> Nahhhh... They form means "Don't give me any AGGRIVATION"....
>> Nothing to do with agriculture.
>
> Perhaps I should have used the other example I heard. "Piling on
>the aggro." It's pretty hard for anything other than "shit" to fit
into
>the context that that one was used in.

It can still mean 'aggravation', and that's what Aussies mean by it.
Aggravation, hassle, 'a hard time', etc.

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 20
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:20:57 -0400
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Jordan."
<snip-a-little>

]Now then, Given elven attitudes twards most humans, elves may see
]human's only 'redeeming factor is the ability to produce elven
]offspring, ence the word breeder : You are only good for making more
]elves, you have no other worth.

This sounds like the best bet, and could certainly be pretty derogatory.
Thanks to everyone who answered me, BTW.

Scott
Message no. 21
From: Geoff Skellams geoff.skellams@*********.com.au
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:23:19 +1100
On shadowrn@*********.org, Scott Wheelock[SMTP:iscottw@*****.nb.ca]
wrote:
> "And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Jordan."
> <snip-a-little>
>
> ]Now then, Given elven attitudes twards most humans, elves may see
> ]human's only 'redeeming factor is the ability to produce elven
> ]offspring, ence the word breeder : You are only good for making more
> ]elves, you have no other worth.
>
> This sounds like the best bet, and could certainly be pretty
derogatory.
> Thanks to everyone who answered me, BTW.

There is one version of this name that hasn't come up here, and
it is the one that is current usage in - my brother was asked by a gay
guy if he was a breeder.
So, some sections of the gay community apparently use the term
to refer to heterosexuals. (My brother is a breeder :)

cheers
G

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Message no. 22
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon@*******.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:57:51 PST
>Hmmm...I have only heard it used a lot by Elves. I took this to mean
>the following.
<BigSnip(TM)>
>--Fin

Errr...wrong, Fin.

This insult is generally used (in Shadowrun fiction), by orks and
trolls.

At least, in the 26 or 27 novels that I've read - so I do think I know
what I'm talking about.

I don't have any other ideas, although I think Kama's interpretation
relating 'breeder' to the gang term sounds best so far.

*Doc' wouldn't mind being called a pretty boy. After all, there's no
insult in the truth. <sounds of stifled laughter>*

Doc'

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Message no. 23
From: Hunter griffinhq@****.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:13:58 -0800
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:57:51 PST "Rand Ratinac" <docwagon@*******.com>
writes:
>*Doc' wouldn't mind being called a pretty boy. After all, there's no
>insult in the truth. <sounds of stifled laughter>*
>
Does Fetchit Boy count?
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Message no. 24
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon@*******.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:34:51 PST
<docwagon@*******.com>
>>*Doc' wouldn't mind being called a pretty boy. After all, there's no
>>insult in the truth. <sounds of stifled laughter>*
>>
> Does Fetchit Boy count?

*For once, Doc' refuses to dignify that with a response...oh, what the
hell. "Bite me, doughboy!"*

Doc'

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Message no. 25
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:04:04 EST
In a message dated 2/17/1999 7:28:20 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
geoff.skellams@*********.com.au writes:

> So, some sections of the gay community apparently use the term
> to refer to heterosexuals. (My brother is a breeder :)

DAMN IT!!! I had completely forgotten about that one ... HELL, *I* use that
version myself...

-K
Message no. 26
From: Joshua Mumme grimlakin@**********.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:51:55 -0600
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Wheelock <iscottw@*****.nb.ca>
To: <shadowrn@*********.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)


>"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Brett Borger."
>]Can anyone tell me what the frag "aggro" means, and give some examples
>]of how it would be used in context?
>]
>]Thanks.
>]-=SwiftOne=-
>
> On a related note, what the heck does "breeder" mean,
>in 2050s parlance? I know it refers to humans, but I'm
>not sure if it means anything special. Tusker, that's pretty
>obvious. Dandelion-eater, that's easy enough to grasp.
>But breeder...there must be something blatantly, glaringly
>obvious that I'm missing. Enlighten me, please.

I belive that is slang for ORC because they "Breed like rabbits." theirby.
Breeder.
>
>Scott

Grimlakin
Message no. 27
From: A Halliwell u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:06:23 +0000 (GMT)
And verily, did XaOs [David Goth] hastily scribble thusly...
|
|> On a related note, what the heck does "breeder" mean,
|> in 2050s parlance? I know it refers to humans, but I'm
|> not sure if it means anything special. Tusker, that's pretty
|> obvious. Dandelion-eater, that's easy enough to grasp.
|> But breeder...there must be something blatantly, glaringly
|> obvious that I'm missing. Enlighten me, please.
|
|I think it's referring to the fact that most Homo Sapiens births are of the
|Homo Sapiens Sapiens variety. The other meta-types are far less common.
|(Right?)

I think it's got more to do with humans being nothing but breeding stock to
produce more orcs and trolls. (It is an insult after all)
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Message no. 28
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:09:33 +0100
According to Jordan, at 11:38 on 17 Feb 99, the word on
the street was...

> Hmmm...I have only heard it used a lot by Elves. I took this to mean
> the following.

Check SR1's slang list, page 161:

Breeder n. Ork slang for a "normal" Human.

Also:

Dandelion Eater n., adj. Elf or elven. Highly insulting.
Trog n. (vul) An Ork or Troll. From "troglodyte." Highly insulting.

These are the only race-related insults in that book, BTW.

> Given: Elves don't much care for Humans, and Vise Versa.

Stuck in a fantasy game mindset, are we? :) I myself don't accept _any_
such statement as "give" -- there will always be elves who like humans,
humans who like orks, dwarfs who like trolls, and so on.

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Message no. 29
From: Stuart M. Willis hbiki@****.geocities.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:48:10 +1100
1. Agg is the slang term for agriculture
2. Agro is short for agressive, or angry. 'He's really agro', or a
combination thereof.
3. Agro is the name of a stupid puppet-thing that's meant to resemble a
wombat which hosts a kids show (Cartoon connection).

Of the three, I would suspect 3 would be the most quintessentially
Australian. The second I've heard germans use (Amageddon Dildos are
described as 'agro-rock'), and the first wouldn't be a suprise either.

care,
s.

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Message no. 30
From: Marc Renouf renouf@********.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:30:08 -0500 (EST)
On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Lady Jestyr wrote:

> > Perhaps I should have used the other example I heard. "Piling on
> >the aggro." It's pretty hard for anything other than "shit" to
fit into
> >the context that that one was used in.
>
> It can still mean 'aggravation', and that's what Aussies mean by it.
> Aggravation, hassle, 'a hard time', etc.

Granted, I just find it amusing that the same word can have two
totally different meanings in different regions that (ostensibly) speak
the same language. Take "bloody" for instance. Here it means, well,
covered with blood. It's not swearing, and schoolchildren don't get
reprimanded for saying it. When I was in Scotland this summer I came
across a few others that sort of made me go, "uh, okay, whatever you say."

Marc (whose favorite bit of New Zealander derogatory slang is "dag," the
term originally used to describe the shit-encrusted dreadlock of wool
hanging pendulously from a sheep's ass.)
Message no. 31
From: Bob Tockley zzdeden@*******.com.au
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 23:29:37 +1000
> Granted, I just find it amusing that the same word can have two
>totally different meanings in different regions that (ostensibly) speak
>the same language. Take "bloody" for instance. Here it means, well,
>covered with blood. It's not swearing, and schoolchildren don't get
>reprimanded for saying it. When I was in Scotland this summer I came
>across a few others that sort of made me go, "uh, okay, whatever you say."

Children get reprimanded for saying it?

>Marc (whose favorite bit of New Zealander derogatory slang is "dag," the
>term originally used to describe the shit-encrusted dreadlock of wool
>hanging pendulously from a sheep's ass.)

Hehe. I'll give you that. My favourite, however, is the phrase "Well,
I'll be buggered." Nuff said.

(>) ARKHAM
"I'll tell you what - we'll fight fair, okay? Just stand over there for
a sec while I get ready... back a bit... to the left... left... left...
right on top of that big set of concentric circles.... yeah, that's
right... Now hold still....."
Message no. 32
From: Marc Renouf renouf@********.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:38:51 -0500 (EST)
On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Bob Tockley wrote:

> Children get reprimanded for saying it?
["it" in this case being "bloody"]

I dunno if they do in Australia, but they do in Scotland.

Marc
Message no. 33
From: Jordan findlerman@*****.com
Subject: Aussie Question [OT] (Kinda)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:15:22 -0800 (PST)
> > Hmmm...I have only heard it used a lot by Elves. I took this to
mean
> > the following.
>
> Check SR1's slang list, page 161:
>
> Breeder n. Ork slang for a "normal" Human.

MAy be, i could only recall at the time, still for that matter, it's
usage by elves. So, what? I was wrong. Sorry. Oh, and thank's for
the SR1 snippet. I, unfortunately, jumped on the SR Bandwagon around
that advent of SR2. Still tracking down an SR1 book for my
collectoin...

> Also:
>
> Dandelion Eater n., adj. Elf or elven. Highly insulting.
> Trog n. (vul) An Ork or Troll. From "troglodyte." Highly insulting.

Yeah, i knew these already.

> These are the only race-related insults in that book, BTW.

Maybe so, but there *are* more...ever heard of a Keeb? as in Keebler?

> > Given: Elves don't much care for Humans, and Vise Versa.
>
> Stuck in a fantasy game mindset, are we? :) I myself don't accept
_any_
> such statement as "give" -- there will always be elves who like
humans,
> humans who like orks, dwarfs who like trolls, and so on.

Eh...I was just finishing some geometric algebra assignment. It was
aimed more at trying to prove, like a mathematical proof (A=B, B=C,
so, A=C)....but, math always drains me....sorry if I muttled it up.
Now then, i would have to agreed with the sagelike statement:
"All Generalizations are False."
...and I realize that there are a number of exceptions, but from what
I percieve to be the norm in shadowrun, elves have a reputation for
always putting people off with an "I know something you don't know.
Nya-nya-nya." (that's a quote from some canon or novel :)
And Humans are reguarded, by elves, for a generalization with some
harsh, possibly amligned feelings, due to the racial persecution. I
am sure that there are subservient elves who are shy as all can be,
and human's are know to have a faction among them which are commonly
referred to as "posers," as they believe that Elves are God-sent, and
should be emulated, even at the cost of reforming you body to look
like elves. But, I was speaking of (what i believe to be) the
majority (in racial terms) racial attitudes.

Now, then, how many list subscribers think that I missed the mark? If
I did, let me know so I can revise my view.

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