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Message no. 1
From: Steven Ratkovich <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:33:40 -0500
Hello all, once again time for my stupid questions...:)

Tonights question has to do with Awakened animals...

Now, It's been suggested that possibly once the mana levels rise high
enough, blood elves will grow their thorns... Also, supposedly, Horrors
can't get through to our world until the mana levels rise high enough...
Makes it sound like tehre's a lot more to come...

Now, my question is, will we see more awakened critters show up as time goes
on and the mana level rises? Plus, just how nasty will these beasties be?
Seems to me that the higher the mana levels get, the nastier the stuff
becomes...

Now, I haven't read any of the Earth Dawn stuff, so I have no idea what's
tehre... But I would think that anything that exists there could and should
exist here at some point...

Well, I was wondering what your take on this was... Any comments or
suggestions?

-Bull-the-wondering-about-stuff-decker-turned-GM



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Message no. 2
From: Caric <caric@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:58:54 -0700
> Now, my question is, will we see more awakened critters show up as time
goes
> on and the mana level rises? Plus, just how nasty will these beasties
be?
> Seems to me that the higher the mana levels get, the nastier the stuff
> becomes...
>
I would imagine that if people are going to use Horrors and blood elves
etc...Then yes would see more paranormal creatures as well as more adepts
since most characters in Earthdawn are magical in one way or another. As
far as which creatures that depends. Alot of the nasties, with the
exception of horrors and their constructs, already exist.


Just my 2 nuyen


Caric-the-now-broke-shaman
Message no. 3
From: Court Schuett <schuett@*****.IVCC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:47:58 -0500
On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Steven Ratkovich wrote:

> Now, my question is, will we see more awakened critters show up as time goes
> on and the mana level rises? Plus, just how nasty will these beasties be?
> Seems to me that the higher the mana levels get, the nastier the stuff
> becomes...
>
> Now, I haven't read any of the Earth Dawn stuff, so I have no idea what's
> tehre... But I would think that anything that exists there could and should
> exist here at some point...
>
> -Bull-the-wondering-about-stuff-decker-turned-GM

Sorry to not answer your question, I have one of my own! :)
What about Windlings and T'Skrang? (From Earthdawn, the other two
races) Are they going to appear when Mana levels get higher too? Ooooh,
it's going to be so much fun when mana levels get high!!! Sky boats,
thread magic, I can't wait! :)
-Court



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Message no. 4
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:49:46 -0700
Steven Ratkovich wrote:
> Now, It's been suggested that possibly once the mana levels rise high
> enough, blood elves will grow their thorns...


I don't know that this sort of thing is something that will simply
manifest..You see..I am not sure which SR elves you are talking about in the
first place..You see that implanting of thorns was a thing that was done
willingly with the addition of some blood magic these implanted thorns were
made to grow through the skin of these psycho elves..This whole deal was done
in order to keep the Horrors from being able to feed off of their pain and
suffering as the Horrors had not caused it is all a little convoluted..At
any rate..Perhaps the blood elves you have heard of are simply descended from
thes disturbed elves..But I doubt they will simply manifest thorns..

> Now, my question is, will we see more awakened critters show up as time goes
> on and the mana level rises?


I don't see why not..some of them might be kinda cool...

> Plus, just how nasty will these beasties be?


Some nasty..Some not too bad...

> Seems to me that the higher the mana levels get, the nastier the stuff
> becomes...
>

Uea..Well we might get some new meta races as well..Obsidimen, T'skrang..That
is Rock dudes and Lizard guys...Hey we might get some thundra beasts cropping
up here and there a kind of awakened domesticated Rhino..ANd then there are
stuff like Bloatforms, Cadavermen, Esperaga, and lots of others..translated
that is Weird monsters, Zombies, Mindless Drakoforms..

> But I would think that anything that exists there could and should
> exist here at some point...

Eventually perhaps..But not for a while I hope..
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Message no. 5
From: Marty <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 13:53:44 +1000
> Now, It's been suggested that possibly once the mana levels rise high
> enough, blood elves will grow their thorns... Also, supposedly, Horrors
> can't get through to our world until the mana levels rise high enough...
> Makes it sound like tehre's a lot more to come...
>

Yup, and all of its bad. Bwhahahahahaha!

> Now, my question is, will we see more awakened critters show up as time goes
> on and the mana level rises? Plus, just how nasty will these beasties be?
> Seems to me that the higher the mana levels get, the nastier the stuff
> becomes...
>
That'd be a good guess, I'd say. I haven't seen any of the newer
Earthdawn stuff, but the orginal rules which I used to play had two types
of monsters; The pushovers and the unkillables.

The horrors were all unkillable. (or nearly so; They scared me)

> Now, I haven't read any of the Earth Dawn stuff, so I have no idea what's
> tehre... But I would think that anything that exists there could and should
> exist here at some point...
>

Yes indeed.... In our game world there is probably goiong to be a
Wormskull in control of one of the larger blood-magic cults, inside Axtech.

A wormskull is basically a big accretion of worms in a suit of armour....
It's got all kinds of nasty powers like 'skin twist', which dislocates
your skin from your body and wraps it around youself.

The horrors would have to be a lot worse than the stuff you encounter
towards the end of Harlequin's back, because they are apparently the
underlings of a few horrors.

I'd say that a horror can't exist in the current world of Shadowrun
except in areas where the magical level is abnormally high though the
continued practise of blood or other magic (the Ghost Dance), or at a
scene of unmentionable acts like Auschwitz, etc. They can't leave the
vicinity of these sites, or they'd be out roaming the world already.

Even at Aushwitz, I'd say that the horrors can 'only' affect your
mind.... twisting it, sending you insane, and then they watch you leave
in a psychotic state, going to slaughter innocents. Or they could twist
your mind more subtly, influencing you to take more long-term actions
that harm humanity.

Taking on a horror would have to be the culmination in a long term
campaign with experienced and reasonably powerful characters.... The type
that go to the UB for a pre-breakfast punch up. Ou campaigns got a long
way to go before we get there, and the style of play doesn't match just
(we're into a theivery campaign at the moment).

If someone could post an estimate of the stats of a Wormskull, I'd be
grateful.

Bleach
Message no. 6
From: "Brennan M. O'Keefe" <bmokeefe@**.COM>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 21:45:26 -0500
> From: Steven Ratkovich <chaos@*****.COM>

> Now, my question is, will we see more awakened critters show up as time
goes
> on and the mana level rises? Plus, just how nasty will these beasties
be?
> Seems to me that the higher the mana levels get, the nastier the stuff
> becomes...

What interests me is how the Awakened critters that we have already seen
will continue to change, especially the proto-sentients. As mana increases,
perhaps their Awakened traits will express themselves more radically. Will
creatures like Satyrs, Mermaids, and Wild Minotaurs become more like their
mythical half-human forms as magic levels increase?

Actually, what really intrigues me (since I just picked up Paracritters of
Europe a week ago) are the Windli... Oops, I meant to say Sprites. Have any
other SR products mentioned these guys? For that matter, have anything like
lizard-men or walking rocks appeared yet? I have some of my own theories
here.

> Now, I haven't read any of the Earth Dawn stuff, so I have no idea what's
> tehre... But I would think that anything that exists there could and
should
> exist here at some point...

A lot of the particularly nasty critters out of Earthdawn are horror
constructs. As constructs, I suspect that they would have been more likely
to just fall apart as magic levels fell, as opposed to reverting into
Mundane forms like "natural" paracritters. So, I wouldn't count on some of
these things turning up again, unless Something decided to deliberately
make them again. Of course, Something could make up some entirely new
creatues instead...
Message no. 7
From: The Jestyr <s421539@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 08:14:49 +1000
> Uea..Well we might get some new meta races as well..Obsidimen, T'skrang..That
> is Rock dudes and Lizard guys...Hey we might get some thundra beasts cropping
> up here and there a kind of awakened domesticated Rhino..ANd then there are
> stuff like Bloatforms, Cadavermen, Esperaga, and lots of others..translated
> that is Weird monsters, Zombies, Mindless Drakoforms..

<snip> Oh boyoboyoboyoboy... I wanna play a windling physical adept... :)

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 8
From: Marty <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:59:00 +1000
> Sorry to not answer your question, I have one of my own! :)
> What about Windlings and T'Skrang? (From Earthdawn, the other two
> races) Are they going to appear when Mana levels get higher too? Ooooh,
> it's going to be so much fun when mana levels get high!!! Sky boats,
> thread magic, I can't wait! :)

I can; It means the horrors are around, and have trashed the place.
Sounds like fun to me.
Message no. 9
From: John Pederson <Canthros@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 21:09:43 -0400
In a message dated 96-10-14 16:58:23 EDT, you write:

>On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Steven Ratkovich wrote:
>
>> Now, my question is, will we see more awakened critters show up as time
>goes
>> on and the mana level rises? Plus, just how nasty will these beasties be?
>> Seems to me that the higher the mana levels get, the nastier the stuff
>> becomes...
>>
>> Now, I haven't read any of the Earth Dawn stuff, so I have no idea what's
>> tehre... But I would think that anything that exists there could and
>should
>> exist here at some point...
>>
>> -Bull-the-wondering-about-stuff-decker-turned-GM
>
>Sorry to not answer your question, I have one of my own! :)
>What about Windlings and T'Skrang? (From Earthdawn, the other two
>races) Are they going to appear when Mana levels get higher too? Ooooh,
>it's going to be so much fun when mana levels get high!!! Sky boats,
>thread magic, I can't wait! :)
>-Court

You forgot Obsidimen:) As ofr what appears as mana rises, the way I
understand it (and this is all second-hand info, I don't play ED, and I don't
possess any SR books-why I'm the GM is anyone's guess) is that as mana rises,
forms which are farther removed from humanity (like the T'skrang, Windlings,
and Obsidimen) will begin to arise. I would surmise that forms which are
farther removed from that which they are derived from will arise by the same
principle. That explains why elves and dwarves appeared before orks and
Trolls-trogs aren't as human, physically, I mean.

John "I don't play Earthdawn" Pederson
canthros@***.com
http://members.gnn.com/lenoj/johns.htm
Message no. 10
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 12:37:42 +0100
Marty said on 13:53/12 Oct 96...

> If someone could post an estimate of the stats of a Wormskull, I'd be
> grateful.

SR stats, you mean? A good conversion is to just use the ED Steps, or
subtract 1 from them. Try these:

B Q S C I W R Init Armor
10 12 x3 10 8 13 11 13 2D6 18/18

Attacks: skill = Reaction, damage = (str)S
Threat/Professional Ratings: 8/4

Try adapting the powers from ED, these are a bit too much to do a quick
conversion of here. Same for the spells (Circle 6 Nethermancer... ouch).

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Message no. 11
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 12:37:42 +0100
Court Schuett said on 12:47/11 Oct 96...

> Sorry to not answer your question, I have one of my own! :)
> What about Windlings and T'Skrang? (From Earthdawn, the other two
> races) Are they going to appear when Mana levels get higher too? Ooooh,
> it's going to be so much fun when mana levels get high!!! Sky boats,
> thread magic, I can't wait! :)

Windlings exist in SR: check pages 94 and 95 of Paranormal Animals of
Europe -- there's sprites there that mightily resemble windlings,
especially if you take in the comment of a drunk, Irish, elf noble...

T'Skrang have not been spotted in any SR book yet AFAIK, and there are no
obsidimen either.

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Message no. 12
From: Loki <loki@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 12:30:24 -0700
<SNIP>
> Sorry to not answer your question, I have one of my own! :)
> What about Windlings and T'Skrang? (From Earthdawn, the other two
> races) Are they going to appear when Mana levels get higher too? Ooooh,
> it's going to be so much fun when mana levels get high!!! Sky boats,
> thread magic, I can't wait! :)
> -Court

Windlings are pretty much the Sprites in Paranormal Animals of Europe.
Shouldn't take much to convert them to a PC race if you really wanted.

@>-,--'--- Loki

CLARKE'S THIRD LAW:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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Message no. 13
From: John Pederson <Canthros@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:40:36 -0400
In a message dated 96-10-14 18:17:25 EDT, you write:

>> Uea..Well we might get some new meta races as well..Obsidimen,
>T'skrang..That
>> is Rock dudes and Lizard guys...Hey we might get some thundra beasts
>cropping
>> up here and there a kind of awakened domesticated Rhino..ANd then there
are
>> stuff like Bloatforms, Cadavermen, Esperaga, and lots of
others..translated
>> that is Weird monsters, Zombies, Mindless Drakoforms..
>
><snip> Oh boyoboyoboyoboy... I wanna play a windling physical adept... :)

Okay, I give. I had a vague idea about T'Skrang and Obsidemen. I had heard
about Windlings. My question is this-just _what_ is a Windling???

John "Still doesn't know" Pederson
canthros@***.com
http://members.gnn.com/lenoj/johns.htm
Message no. 14
From: Loki <loki@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:42:36 -0700
> <snip> Oh boyoboyoboyoboy... I wanna play a windling physical adept... :)
>
> Lady Jestyr

I came up with one I use as an NPC. The sprites in PAoE are pretty much
Windlings by a different name. You could do them as a PC race with minimum
effort. I'd say racial modifiers would be something like:

Body -1, Quickness +7 (x1 walking/x5 flying), Strength -2, Intelligence
+1, Willpower +1.

This is based off a rule of thumb that average human stats would be 3, and
thus subtracting 3 from the stats given for a Sprite gives the racial
modifiers. This gives the "Windling" a net +6 to its attributes, where for
most metahumans it's +3. Figuring in the walking movement modifier (they
can only fly for limitted periods of time), no listed thermo or low-light
vision, and restrictions on weapons/gear it seems to balance out.

**A GM should instill realistic modifiers to costsand availability to
Windling size'd weapons/gear. I'd also say that cyber/bio ware for a
Windling would be non-existant (as I understood them when role-playing one
in E/D, I couldn't see a Windling defiling their body and allowing
implants).

Windlings might also have a limitation on armor, since E/D is rather
specific on them not wearing clothing that would inhibit their wings. Also,
Windlings would be very specific on weight limitations (probably not over
Strength x 5 Kg), as heavy loads would hamper flying. Not to mention their
wings getting wet makes them brittle, so a Windling would just LOVE Seattle
weather.

The only other problem I forsee is how to work in their power of
concealment and the extra initiative dice that are listed for the Sprite in
the PAoE. I'd probably say to not give these powers to a PC Windling,
stating they're listed to represent the stereotypical Windling warrior.

Anyways, it's a rough sketch. Comments?

I'm wondering about a -1 Reach to armed/unarmed combat. But PAoE didn't
list one, and I'd think that flying during combat would probably manuever
around that.

@>-,--'--- Loki

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Message no. 15
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:37:43 +0100
John Pederson said on 15:40/15 Oct 96...

> Okay, I give. I had a vague idea about T'Skrang and Obsidemen. I had heard
> about Windlings. My question is this-just _what_ is a Windling???

Imagine an elf of about half a meter tall, with even more pointed ears
that normal elves. Now imagine a full set of butterfly or dragonfly wings
(about as large as the creature itself, of course) on the tiny elf's back.
Hey presto, there's your windling...

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Message no. 16
From: dreamweaver <dreamwvr@******.CO.ZA>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:58:46 -0200
Do I hear someone say MORE containment zones?
Message no. 17
From: Max Rible <cheshire@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:24:47 -0800
At 23:42 10/15/96 -0700, Loki wrote:
>I came up with one I use as an NPC. The sprites in PAoE are pretty much
>Windlings by a different name.

The one thing missing is that Windlings are dual beings, while it doesn't
list sprites as such.

>**A GM should instill realistic modifiers to costsand availability to
>Windling size'd weapons/gear. I'd also say that cyber/bio ware for a
>Windling would be non-existant

They'd all have to be custom made by someone who knew how to make things for
a person eighteen inches tall. Availability, hell, they'd need contacts just
to get the stuff created... and they wouldn't be able to fly while under
serious armor due to the weight.

But remember: Windlings *can* be mages...
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Message no. 18
From: Loki <loki@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:45:15 -0700
> >I came up with one I use as an NPC. The sprites in PAoE are pretty much
> >Windlings by a different name.
>
> The one thing missing is that Windlings are dual beings, while it doesn't
> list sprites as such.

I don't believe4 Windlings were dual beings as much as they had astral
perception, which a physad could pick up or a mage/shaman would have.
<shrug>

@>-,--'--- Loki

CLARKE'S THIRD LAW:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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Message no. 19
From: John Pederson <Canthros@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:48:23 -0400
In a message dated 96-10-16 06:57:52 EDT, you write:

>> Okay, I give. I had a vague idea about T'Skrang and Obsidemen. I had
>heard
>> about Windlings. My question is this-just _what_ is a Windling???
>
>Imagine an elf of about half a meter tall, with even more pointed ears
>that normal elves. Now imagine a full set of butterfly or dragonfly wings
>(about as large as the creature itself, of course) on the tiny elf's back.
>Hey presto, there's your windling...
>
>

Muchas gracias, Gurth. Since I don't know much at all about Earthdawn
(unlike many people on the list apparently) I didn't know. I had seen the
Sprite while paging through PAoE in the store, but I didn't buy the book.
Oh, well. I guess I'll have to put it on the wish list...

John Pederson
canthros@***.com
http://members.gnn.com/lenoj/johns.htm
Message no. 20
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 23:23:57 -0700
The Jestyr wrote:
> <snip> Oh boyoboyoboyoboy... I wanna play a windling physical adept... :)


Here is my question..Does anyone want me to post a complete [more or less]
list by terrain of all the ED critters??? Someone on the ED list posted this
list last week and I would be happy to let everyone else have a look too..Let
me know..
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Lord, Grant Me The Serinity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serinity Prayer
Message no. 21
From: Loki <loki@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:56:22 -0700
> Okay, I give. I had a vague idea about T'Skrang and Obsidemen. I had
heard
> about Windlings. My question is this-just _what_ is a Windling???

Pretty much the Sprite from PAoE, just by a different name.

@>-,--'--- Loki

CLARKE'S THIRD LAW:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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Message no. 22
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 02:06:35 -0700
> Here is my question..Does anyone want me to post a complete [more or less]
> list by terrain of all the ED critters??? Someone on the ED list posted this
> list last week and I would be happy to let everyone else have a look too..Let
> me know..

I for one would like to see it, but I realize there are some on the list
who don't want big emails coming to their boxes.
If no one objects, I say post it, otherwise, maybe through private email
to those who request it.
(One of which would be me! :-))

Steven A. Tinner
"Ahhh! Opposable digits!"
Message no. 23
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:09:59 +0100
Loki said on 11:45/16 Oct 96...

> I don't believe4 Windlings were dual beings as much as they had astral
> perception, which a physad could pick up or a mage/shaman would have.
> <shrug>

Windlings in ED have a limited form of astral sight, allowing them to
perceive astral space in some way or another -- I've always found astral
space to be very vaguely described in ED books though...

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Message no. 24
From: Loki <loki@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Awakened Critters, the New Breed...
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 23:11:35 -0700
> Here is my question..Does anyone want me to post a complete [more or
less]
> list by terrain of all the ED critters??? Someone on the ED list posted
this
> list last week and I would be happy to let everyone else have a look
too..Let
> me know..

Sure, sounds usefull. Does it include stats too?

@>-,--'--- Loki

CLARKE'S THIRD LAW:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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