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Message no. 1
From: Shaun Gilroy <shaung@**********.NET>
Subject: Re: Awakening, Grimoire, SSam Hndbk, ShadowTech, etc,
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:33:17 -0400
At 07:02 AM 10/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
> So the question is; does anyone know how far off this will be and
if >it
>essentially means buying the current magic and tech books would be a waste=
of
>my money or if there will be items in them that still remain unique to=
them?

I don't expect to see any of the recompiled sourcebooks before February to
August of 99, but who knows, perhaps FASA will surprise me >:).

If I were you, Brian, I'd wait for those, but start snagging location books
while you wait. But I love the location books, each one has so many
adventures waiting to be seen and brought to fuition.

Shadowtech, might be worth picking up if you're impatient to implement
bioware. Rigger 2 and Virtual Realities 2.0 might be something to grab for
the expansive nature of the content. But Cybertechnology, Street Sam
Catalog, Awakenings, and Grimiore 15th Ed, and Fields of Fire will probably
be ones to wait out the new sourcebooks for.

(>)noysh the spoonë bard
-> jack of all trades, master of none. <-
Message no. 2
From: TillK <kortuem@*******.DE>
Subject: Re: Awakening, Grimoire, SSam Hndbk, ShadowTech, etc,
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:38:47 +0200
At 07:02 14.10.98 -0700, Brian Wong wrote:
>Hello;
>
> I've recently bought 3rd edition. Presently all I own is this, The
>companion, and a used copy of Shadowbeat I found.
>
> In the back of SR3 it mentions that all the magic books will be
>combined into one. And all the tech books also combined into one.
>
> So the question is; does anyone know how far off this will be and
if it
>essentially means buying the current magic and tech books would be a waste=
of
>my money or if there will be items in them that still remain unique to=
them?

This question can probably only be answered correctly by the folks at
FASA... but I think that the "old" magic books (Awakenings, Grimoire) will
become rather obsolete when Magic in the Shadows comes out (it is due early
next year, I think), and Shadowtech, Street Samurai Catalog, Fields of Fire
and Cybertechnology will be when Man and Machine and the Cannon Companion
come out (scheduled for summer ´99, IIRC), but I think these books are not
even "in production" (as MitS is at the moment, so we´ve heard from Steve
Kenson). It really is time to release new, combined books... Shadowtech is
still a 1st edition book, SSC also (well, they released an updated 2nd ed
version). If I were in your situation, I would wait for MitS, but if I
could pick up cheap copies of the other books... till next summer (or
later, regarding FASA´s announcements in contrast to the REAL release
dates) it is a long time to wait.

bye
-- TillK ]B-]
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Message no. 3
From: Steve Eley <sfeley@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Awakening, Grimoire, SSam Hndbk, ShadowTech, etc,
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:41:48 -0400
Brian Wong wrote:
>
> I've recently bought 3rd edition. Presently all I own is this, The
> companion, and a used copy of Shadowbeat I found.

Sounds like a good mix. >8-> I actually value Shadowbeat above the
Companion in terms of its usefulness.


> In the back of SR3 it mentions that all the magic books will be
> combined into one. And all the tech books also combined into one.

Well, sort of, yes. There will be Third Edition retreatments of the major
magic and toy sourcebooks, making the old ones obsolete. How much of it's
"combining" as opposed to "rewriting" hasn't been made known to us
yet,
but it does sound as if Magic in the Shadows is going to be quite
different from the older books.


> So the question is; does anyone know how far off this will be and if it
> essentially means buying the current magic and tech books would be a waste of
> my money or if there will be items in them that still remain unique to them?

Magic in the Shadows is theoretically due out in January. I would expect
Man and Machine (cyber and biotech) and the Cannon Companion (weapons and
toys) by sometime around the middle of next year. The Corporate Download
will be somewhere in the middle of all that. That's based solely on the
fuzzy statements FASA and its people have made.. Keep in mind that they
also said the Third Edition GM Screen and the Renraku Arcology book would
be on sale in September, and at this point (mid-October) there's no idea
when they'll even ship.

Will it be a waste of your money to buy the old books? Depends on how
satisfied you are with the stuff in SR3.. As you and your group are
presumably new to Shadowrun, you can probably get along for a long time
with the spells and gear out of the main rulebook, plus your imagination.
Everything truly important is in there somewhere. >8->


Have Fun,
- Steve Eley
sfeley@***.net
Message no. 4
From: Mongoose <evamarie@**********.NET>
Subject: Re: Awakening, Grimoire, SSam Hndbk, ShadowTech, etc,
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:34:58 -0700
: So the question is; does anyone know how far off this will be and
if it
:essentially means buying the current magic and tech books would be a
waste of
:my money or if there will be items in them that still remain unique to
them?


There should not be any thing unique to those old books, afaik. More
importantly, all the old stuff will be made SR3 compatible (which might
invalidate a tiny fraction, but due to better replacements). I'd say you
should not bother; the game is quite playable with just SR3; enjoy the
simplicity while you can! The new books will be different enough that you
might make trouble for yourself by learning two sets of rules.
Mits should be out this winter (February), and Man and Machine and the
Cannon Companion next summer- MaM first. June and July? By Gencon, at
the latest!

Mongoose
Message no. 5
From: Mike Bobroff <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Awakening, Grimoire, SSam Hndbk, ShadowTech, etc,
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:37:57 EDT
In a message dated 10/14/98 9:07:23 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
rook@*****.INFINEX.COM writes:

> In the back of SR3 it mentions that all the magic books will be
> combined into one. And all the tech books also combined into one.
>
> So the question is; does anyone know how far off this will be and
if
> it
> essentially means buying the current magic and tech books would be a waste
> of
> my money or if there will be items in them that still remain unique to
them?

MiTS is supposed to be out in stores by sometime in February of 1999, or so we
are all hoping for. As for what will be in MiTS, it is supposed to be a
compilation of all of the magic books (Grimoire, Awakenings, and others),
which pertain to magic. Shortly after that there is supposed to be another
sourcebook which covers the magical nations of the world (Target : Awakened
Nations, perhaps).

-Herc
------- The Best Mechanic you can ever have.

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