Back to the main page

Mailing List Logs for ShadowRN

Message no. 1
From: Danyel N Woods <9604801@********.AC.NZ>
Subject: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:57:59 +1200
G'day, ShadowRN.

I want to throw some *really* nasty stuff at the PCs - to make sure I
have their attention during a shootout with some Azzie heavy-infantry -
and I was wondering if anyone had made up stats for an ED-209(tm) style
combat machine - piloted, remote-rigged, or robot.

I was thinking of emphasising how nasty the Aztechnology labs could be
by making this thing 'piloted' - by a rigged individual who was
*permanently* wired into the machine's systems and kept doped-up with
aggression-enhancing drugs. Such a thing would either be voluntary
('special duty'), or the last resort of some prisoners ('Either you sign
up for this duty, or we kill you.' Which would be worse?).

[For anyone who cares, this is based on Robocop 2((tm)), and the
'Berserker' concept out of the Dark Horse((tm)) 'Aliens' comics.]

Danyel Woods
9604801@********.ac.nz
'Are you deliberately trying to drive me insane?'
'The universe is already mad. Anything else would be
redundant.'
Message no. 2
From: MgkellyMP5 <MgkellyMP5@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:27:24 EDT
In a message dated 98-05-19 19:01:14 EDT, you write:

<< I was thinking of emphasising how nasty the Aztechnology labs could be
by making this thing 'piloted' - by a rigged individual who was
*permanently* wired into the machine's systems and kept doped-up with
aggression-enhancing drugs. Such a thing would either be voluntary
('special duty'), or the last resort of some prisoners ('Either you sign
up for this duty, or we kill you.' Which would be worse?).
>>

The thought itself is pretty nasty. My GM once threw our old group up against
an Azzie compound (losts of nasty, money-making stuff going on there, natch)
gaaurded by Jaguar Guards, Combat Mages (one or two of whom were Blood Mages),
and Rigger-controlled Behemoths.
I shit you not.
We had to hit the facility (amidst all the confusion,destruction, and
fireballs),find the riggers controlling the bastards, and whack them to stop
the Behemoths (one of whom ate a LAW rocket and kept going).
Personally, I would rather face a Rigger-driven Anthropoid Drone. At least
those STAY DOWN when the Merc hits them with an Anti-Tank Weapon.

Mgkelly
Message no. 3
From: Danyel N Woods <9604801@********.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:17:03 +1200
Quoth MgkellyMP5 (1127 20-5-98 NZT):

><< I was thinking of emphasising how nasty the Aztechnology labs could
be
> by making this thing 'piloted' - by a rigged individual who was
> *permanently* wired into the machine's systems and kept doped-up with
> aggression-enhancing drugs. Such a thing would either be voluntary
> ('special duty'), or the last resort of some prisoners ('Either you
sign
> up for this duty, or we kill you.' Which would be worse?).
> >>
>
>The thought itself is pretty nasty. My GM once threw our old group up
against
>an Azzie compound (losts of nasty, money-making stuff going on there,
natch)
>gaaurded by Jaguar Guards, Combat Mages (one or two of whom were Blood
Mages),
>and Rigger-controlled Behemoths.
>I shit you not.

How the Christ do you remote-rig a Behemoth? Or do I not want to know?

>We had to hit the facility (amidst all the confusion,destruction, and
>fireballs),find the riggers controlling the bastards, and whack them to
stop
>the Behemoths (one of whom ate a LAW rocket and kept going).

What, you took anti-tank rockets and forgot the Panther Assault Cannon?
:-)
Sounds like the kinda day that makes you wish you'd become an accountant
instead of a shadowrunner. Makes me glad that both my campaigns (as GM
and player) are set in *way* the hell away from those suckers...

>Personally, I would rather face a Rigger-driven Anthropoid Drone. At
least
>those STAY DOWN when the Merc hits them with an Anti-Tank Weapon.

I'll have to take your word for it (I assume the Anthropoid is a mean
machine out of R2? I only have access to the RBB), but that's the sort
of thing I'm looking for: a mega-tough, well-armed, (vaguely?)
human-shaped combat drone/cyborg that'll bounce most small arms, and
take a good bit of punishment from heavier weapons before going
off-line.

Danyel Woods
9604801@********.ac.nz
'Are you deliberately trying to drive me insane?'
'The universe is already mad. Anything else would be
redundant.'
Message no. 4
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:17:34 -0400
At 10:57 AM 5/20/98 +1200, you wrote:

>I was thinking of emphasising how nasty the Aztechnology labs could be
>by making this thing 'piloted' - by a rigged individual who was
>*permanently* wired into the machine's systems and kept doped-up with
>aggression-enhancing drugs. Such a thing would either be voluntary
>('special duty'), or the last resort of some prisoners ('Either you sign
>up for this duty, or we kill you.' Which would be worse?).

I'd have to say that if it was done right, it is very possible for the SR
universe. This concept has popped up before to my recollection, but it's
still a cool idea.

I'd imagine this would probably fit in under a large walker drone or
something similar from R2. I'd have to think that a similar frame would be
enough to pack all the nasties you'd want. Keith? I know you and Mike
know R2 backwards and forwards (too many numbers for me), got any ideas?

The only problem I'd see with this is what happens to the "pilot" in the
long-term? I'd think that all that inactivity in the body would cause it
to degenerate within a month or so. Within a few months, you'd end up with
a rigger with physical stats of no better than one each.

But since you could probably recycle the VCR-3s they would have (spruce it
up each time you reimplant it to avoid normal second-hand cyber rules) and
the Azzies have an ample supply of prisoners, I'm not sure they would
really care.

"Do a six month tour with us and we'll erase that 20-lifetime prison
sentence of yours." "Oh, you mean we didn't mention you'd be a physical
invalid after your service to the glory of Aztlan? You should have read
the contract more carefully..."

I like it. It works for me. I'll have to keep it in mind when the current
batch of PCs gets to sufficient power levels.

Erik J.


"Oh, the silent helicopters and the men in black fatigues? They're just my
car pool to work."
Message no. 5
From: Danyel N Woods <9604801@********.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:46:19 +1200
Quoth Erik Jameson (1218 20-5-98 NZT):

>>I was thinking of emphasising how nasty the Aztechnology labs could be
>>by making this thing 'piloted' - by a rigged individual who was
>>*permanently* wired into the machine's systems and kept doped-up with
>>aggression-enhancing drugs. Such a thing would either be voluntary
>>('special duty'), or the last resort of some prisoners ('Either you
sign
>>up for this duty, or we kill you.' Which would be worse?).
>
>I'd have to say that if it was done right, it is very possible for the
SR
>universe. This concept has popped up before to my recollection, but
it's
>still a cool idea.

<<SLICE request to Ereskanti to do the number-crunching>>

>The only problem I'd see with this is what happens to the "pilot" in
the
>long-term? I'd think that all that inactivity in the body would cause
it
>to degenerate within a month or so. Within a few months, you'd end up
with
>a rigger with physical stats of no better than one each.
>
>But since you could probably recycle the VCR-3s they would have (spruce
it
>up each time you reimplant it to avoid normal second-hand cyber rules)
and
>the Azzies have an ample supply of prisoners, I'm not sure they would
>really care.
>
>"Do a six month tour with us and we'll erase that 20-lifetime prison
>sentence of yours." "Oh, you mean we didn't mention you'd be a
physical
>invalid after your service to the glory of Aztlan? You should have
read
>the contract more carefully..."

Good points, though I was thinking more along the lines of two types of
these units: volunteers, who can dismount whenever they choose (the true
'Armoured Troopers'), and 'permanents' ('Berserkers').
The permanents would be death-row or multiple-lifetime prisoners who get
their sentences commuted to life-service in a Berserker unit. And
between the deterioration you mentioned, the developing mental problems
(MAJOR-LEAGUE cyber-psychosis!), and the potential for violent death 'in
the line of duty', life would be about a year at most. (<Evil thought
strikes> But what if they use cybermancy to keep their Berserkers on
line? <shudder>)

You're an inspired, evil man, Erik. I gotta love it.

>I like it. It works for me. I'll have to keep it in mind when the
current
>batch of PCs gets to sufficient power levels.

I was actually going to throw it at my (low-power) players as a hint:
you see one of these things, you don't try to shoot it out; you *RUN
AWAY*. Otherwise, they'd just be in the background - special
assault-platoons attached to the Azzie heavy-infantry brigades staring
across the border at Cal-Free and CAS.

Danyel Woods
9604801@********.ac.nz
'Are you deliberately trying to drive me insane?'
'The universe is already mad. Anything else would be
redundant.'
Message no. 6
From: MgkellyMP5 <MgkellyMP5@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 00:08:31 EDT
In a message dated 98-05-19 20:20:57 EDT, you write:

<< >and Rigger-controlled Behemoths.
>I shit you not.

>>How the Christ do you remote-rig a Behemoth? Or do I not want to know?<<

Modified Remote Gear, according to the GM (hell, they give dogs Reflex Wires.
Just amkes them less controllable).

>We had to hit the facility (amidst all the confusion,destruction, and
>fireballs),find the riggers controlling the bastards, and whack them to
stop
>the Behemoths (one of whom ate a LAW rocket and kept going).

>> What, you took anti-tank rockets and forgot the Panther Assault Cannon?
:-)<<

Hell, we had TWO Panthers and the LAWs did more damage....
Check the Armor and Body Ratings of the Behemoth. Good thing the GM just
decided that they were Rigged and not Armored as well. Never know how the corp
would find ways around the 'Cyber-psychosis' that occur when animals are
cybered. Particularly with Aztech, I'm sure a mage could design some sort of
spell to control it. Control Thoughts/Control Actions type mana spell maybe?
Who knows, but it makes a good plot device and keeps things interesting (hell,
we don't know what the government is doing behind our backs nowadays. Who
knows would a mega-corp would try?)

Mgkelly
Message no. 7
From: Danyel N Woods <9604801@********.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:19:56 +1200
Quoth MgkellyMP5 (1609 20-5-98 NZT):

>In a message dated 98-05-19 20:20:57 EDT, you write:
<<SLICE>>
> >>How the Christ do you remote-rig a Behemoth? Or do I not want to
know?<<
>
>Modified Remote Gear, according to the GM (hell, they give dogs Reflex
Wires.
>Just amkes them less controllable).
>
> >We had to hit the facility (amidst all the confusion,destruction, and
> >fireballs),find the riggers controlling the bastards, and whack them
to
> stop
> >the Behemoths (one of whom ate a LAW rocket and kept going).
>
>>> What, you took anti-tank rockets and forgot the Panther Assault
Cannon?
> :-)<<
>
>Hell, we had TWO Panthers and the LAWs did more damage....

Your GM doesn't like your PCs much, does he? :-)

>Check the Armor and Body Ratings of the Behemoth. Good thing the GM
just
>decided that they were Rigged and not Armored as well. Never know how
the corp
>would find ways around the 'Cyber-psychosis' that occur when animals
are
>cybered. Particularly with Aztech, I'm sure a mage could design some
sort of

Like you said, they managed it for dogs (see 'Cybercurs' under the
Shadowrun Archive's Critters category for full packages) and panthers
(an evil GM((tm)) posted something about it a while ago), so why not
Behemoths? <*whimper of fear*> Figure every creature has a base Essence
of 6, and what do you have? A bona fide night-fraggin'-mare when the
corps twig, that's what. (Do *you* want to mess with a grizzly bear
that has Muscle Replacements, dermal armour, Wired Reflexes and dikoted
teeth?)

>spell to control it. Control Thoughts/Control Actions type mana spell
maybe?
>Who knows, but it makes a good plot device and keeps things interesting
(hell,
>we don't know what the government is doing behind our backs nowadays.
Who
>knows would a mega-corp would try?)

Don't get me started on the conspiracy stuff, or you'll think I'm a
candidate for a padded cell. But you're right; I have to remember this
one for my PC's next visit to a high-security compound....(*Scribbles
down notes* Remote-rigged Behemoths, cybered guard-animals,
magically-controlled paranimals...)

<Evil GM laughter fading into the distance>

Danyel Woods
9604801@********.ac.nz
'Then it's time to teach 'em something every human knows:
payback's a bitch.'
Message no. 8
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 01:42:38 EDT
In a message dated 5/19/98 7:24:10 PM US Eastern Standard Time, erikj@****.COM
writes:

<snip ED-209> ideas...

> I'd imagine this would probably fit in under a large walker drone or
> something similar from R2. I'd have to think that a similar frame would be
> enough to pack all the nasties you'd want. Keith? I know you and Mike
> know R2 backwards and forwards (too many numbers for me), got any ideas?

I know that Mike has worked up stuff similar to this. Mike, do you still have
that -thing- you sicked on Webster and the guys back when we were in
Redmond(???)

-K
Message no. 9
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 02:00:49 EDT
In a message dated 5/20/98 12:23:10 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
9604801@********.AC.NZ writes:

> Don't get me started on the conspiracy stuff, or you'll think I'm a
> candidate for a padded cell. But you're right; I have to remember this
> one for my PC's next visit to a high-security compound....(*Scribbles
> down notes* Remote-rigged Behemoths, cybered guard-animals,
> magically-controlled paranimals...)
>
> <Evil GM laughter fading into the distance>
>
Actually, IIRC, the rules once stated things that "animals could have cyber as
well, and have the same essence loss, with the exception of "Control Cyber",
which each piece incurs a full 1 point essence loss." Now don't ask me why I
remember that from oh so long ago.

It would of course cost more, and the facilities would be even more rare than
the one's for people. Okay, maybe not the facilities, but most likely, the
people.

And be warned, cyber in some crittesr is an AWESOME combination. Bone Lacing
for barghests for example...-THE- choice of evilness once in a while....

-K
Message no. 10
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:21:56 -0400
At 12:46 PM 5/20/98 +1200, you wrote:

>Good points, though I was thinking more along the lines of two types of
>these units: volunteers, who can dismount whenever they choose (the true
>'Armoured Troopers'),

Okay, these folks are probably not much more than a common rigger than,
skilled in piloting a very different sort of combat vehicle. Their VCR's
might be betaware, but specially tuned for these combat walkers. Say, and
extra +2 to Initiative with the walkers, but -1d6 on all other vehicles.
They would probably have edges and flaws (if you use them) built around
this general premise of extreme vehicle specialization.

They'd probably be hell on wheels though...

While it would be possible to create this using a anthropoid drone frame, I
get the impression that you can't load that frame style with lots of
goodies. You'd probably be better off with a "walker" frame that isn't
anthropoid. These references are from R2, so you'd need that to really
design a proper version of these things, unless we can get Mike or Keith or
someone to do it for you.

Hey, what about "powered armor" that is permanently wired into the pilot?
A hybrid of a cyborg and a anthropoid drone? Another wacky thought I suppose.

>and 'permanents' ('Berserkers').
>The permanents would be death-row or multiple-lifetime prisoners who get
>their sentences commuted to life-service in a Berserker unit. And
>between the deterioration you mentioned, the developing mental problems
>(MAJOR-LEAGUE cyber-psychosis!), and the potential for violent death 'in
>the line of duty', life would be about a year at most. (<Evil thought
>strikes> But what if they use cybermancy to keep their Berserkers on
>line? <shudder>)

Now these poor bastards are more of what I think about when I recall ED-209
from RoboCop 2.

Theoretically, you could put these poor fraggers in a "rigger tank" sort of
thing (and honestly, would they need arms and legs then? VCR's are brain
implants after all, and removing arms and legs would reduce tank size...),
pump nutrients into their bodies and keep them wacked out on BTLs.

If a "Berserker" ODs on BTLs, you'd simply pull out the "tank" and
slide in
a new one, like a clip on a handgun. And considering what's being done to
the body and the brain, I doubt life-expectancy is terribly long. Which
would mean they would have to be very good at what they do. The BTLs are
probably hyped up combat sims, with a "mega-orgasm" effect when the user
"kills" someone in the simsense film. Probably would have something
similar but interactive for training purposes.

Sh*t. Frightening thought. That same sort of training would create some
seriously f*cked up and wicked serial killers. The most intense pleasure
in the world derived from taking the life or another...that's pretty damn
good motivation for plenty of folks. But as long as the military retains
total control over these sick f*cks, it's no problem right? <evil corporate
grin>

I doubt they'd use cybermancy for these fraggers though, since that process
is supposed to be expensive and somewhat inconvinient. Besides, there's
always more "volunteers" on death row, right? Much cheaper that way.

Yes, this is wacked out. No, this is not the sort of thing appropriate for
the majority of SR campaigns. But as near as I can tell, it would be
possible to do.


>You're an inspired, evil man, Erik. I gotta love it.

On occassion. My players actually fear me, in that good way of "What's he
going to challenge us with next?" Throw in a raised "Spock" eyebrow, a
Joker-like evil grin and a giggle/laugh straight out of Lovecraft novel and
you can guess why I sometimes scare the daylights out of some of my players...


>I was actually going to throw it at my (low-power) players as a hint:
>you see one of these things, you don't try to shoot it out; you *RUN
>AWAY*. Otherwise, they'd just be in the background - special
>assault-platoons attached to the Azzie heavy-infantry brigades staring
>across the border at Cal-Free and CAS.

I'll have to keep this in mind when I decide it's time to tangle with the
Azzies on their home turf. Probably won't be a while though; they are
still doing the traditional type of runs right now.

Erik J.


"Oh, the silent helicopters and the men in black fatigues? They're just my
car pool to work."
Message no. 11
From: MgkellyMP5 <MgkellyMP5@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:22:15 EDT
<SNIP>

Reminds me of an article I saw in Shadowland a couple years ago about Acers.
It was an Armor Control Rig allowing a character to use a set of power armor
(and it was damn expensive, but real effective). I let a character in one of
my games have an ACR as a field test and it worked out pretty well. It's sort
of like jacking into a Antropoid drones, in a way. It just gives you more
control and better performance. Also, there wasn't any way for a Rigger to use
a set of Acer armor, or for and Acer to rig vehicles.
I'll try to dig the issue out if anyone wants more specifics.

Mgkelly
Message no. 12
From: Drakkath X <DrakkathX@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:12:05 EDT
<<<G'day, ShadowRN.

I want to throw some *really* nasty stuff at the PCs - to make sure I
have their attention during a shootout with some Azzie heavy-infantry -
and I was wondering if anyone had made up stats for an ED-209(tm) style
combat machine - piloted, remote-rigged, or robot.>>>

Hmmm......

Yeah, a drone, seating for one, b/a 3/12, 2 mechanicalarms, mounted with
miniguns belted to 1000 rounds ex-explosive ammo(so they have.... no they
don't have a chance.) rigger inside w/ vcr3, smartlink2, paineditor;
oh yeah, who needs agression drugs when the character is controlled by a
vengeful grm- callit 2gfup[gamemaster gonna f**k you up]

..... that's nasty.
Message no. 13
From: "Ubiratan P. Alberton" <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 19:34:52 -0300
Danyel N Woods escreveu:
>
>
> I'll have to take your word for it (I assume the Anthropoid is a mean
> machine out of R2? I only have access to the RBB), but that's the sort
> of thing I'm looking for: a mega-tough, well-armed, (vaguely?)
> human-shaped combat drone/cyborg that'll bounce most small arms, and
> take a good bit of punishment from heavier weapons before going
> off-line.
>


Just give it Body/Armor 5/15, with two miniguns (or Rotary
Autocannons), one in each
arm. It would walk with a Quickness of 4. I'm not using anything
official here, so no flames
for not obeying the Rigger 2 book, OK?

Ubiratan
Message no. 14
From: Airwasp <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 02:07:40 EDT
In a message dated 5/20/98 5:43:48 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Ereskanti@***.COM
writes:

> > I'd imagine this would probably fit in under a large walker drone or
> > something similar from R2. I'd have to think that a similar frame would
> be
> > enough to pack all the nasties you'd want. Keith? I know you and Mike
> > know R2 backwards and forwards (too many numbers for me), got any ideas?
>
> I know that Mike has worked up stuff similar to this. Mike, do you still
> have
> that -thing- you sicked on Webster and the guys back when we were in
> Redmond(???)

What thing I sicced on the guys and Webster in Redmond, the only thing I
remember is the big robot in mil-spec which Tinsmith had under his control.
This one ?

Care to refresh my memory Keith ?

Mike
Message no. 15
From: Airwasp <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 02:16:21 EDT
In a message dated 5/20/98 5:43:48 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Ereskanti@***.COM
writes:

> > I'd imagine this would probably fit in under a large walker drone or
> > something similar from R2. I'd have to think that a similar frame would
> be
> > enough to pack all the nasties you'd want. Keith? I know you and Mike
> > know R2 backwards and forwards (too many numbers for me), got any ideas?
>
> I know that Mike has worked up stuff similar to this. Mike, do you still
> have
> that -thing- you sicked on Webster and the guys back when we were in
> Redmond(???)

Frag it, I remember the thing now.

LoneStar had been developing a walker drone which they could use in bad areas
to act as a sort of police enforcer and cleaning out the trash.

I'll figure something out later today and make it available to everyone as a
download.

Mike
Message no. 16
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 08:06:46 EDT
In a message dated 5/21/98 1:08:32 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
Airwasp@***.COM writes:

> What thing I sicced on the guys and Webster in Redmond, the only thing I
> remember is the big robot in mil-spec which Tinsmith had under his control.
> This one ?
>
> Care to refresh my memory Keith ?
>
How about the thing the Lone Star guys had out for a "field test" that you
even said looked like ED-209? It never got destroyed, we did something else
to it. Damn, it's too early for me....

-K
Message no. 17
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 19:13:57 +0200
On 20 May 98, at 18:12, Drakkath X wrote:
[snip]
> Yeah, a drone, seating for one, b/a 3/12, 2 mechanicalarms, mounted with
> miniguns belted to 1000 rounds ex-explosive ammo(so they have.... no they
> don't have a chance.) rigger inside w/ vcr3, smartlink2, paineditor;
> oh yeah, who needs agression drugs when the character is controlled
> by a
> vengeful grm- callit 2gfup[gamemaster gonna f**k you up]
>
> ..... that's nasty.
..that's what Commander Vimes called a ballistic approach to spelling and
punctuation.

Really, people, those strange " ", ".", "," characters are
there on your keyboard
for a reason. Using them might, just might, help people to read what you wrote.
No, I will not even dare to ask for line breaks, or structured sentences, but please
remember not all of us learned English as native language. Thanks.


Sascha
--
+---___---------+----------------------------------------+--------------------+
| / / _______ | Jhary-a-Conel aka Sascha Pabst | "If I'd had to buy |
| / /_/ ____/ | Jhary-a-Conel@***.net | you, you wouldn't |
| \___ __/ | ICQ#: 7 517 216 | be worth the |
|==== \_/ ======| *Wearing hats is just a way of life* | price." |
|LOGOUT FASCISM!| - Me | - E.Weatherwax |
+------------- http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~jhary ----(T.Pratchett)+
Message no. 18
From: Danyel N Woods <9604801@********.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Aztech Armoured Troopers
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 16:34:22 +1200
Quoth MgkellyMP5 (0922 21-5-98):

>Reminds me of an article I saw in Shadowland a couple years ago about
Acers.
>It was an Armor Control Rig allowing a character to use a set of power
armor
>(and it was damn expensive, but real effective). I let a character in
one of
>my games have an ACR as a field test and it worked out pretty well.
It's sort
>of like jacking into a Antropoid drones, in a way. It just gives you
more
>control and better performance. Also, there wasn't any way for a Rigger
to use
>a set of Acer armor, or for and Acer to rig vehicles.
>I'll try to dig the issue out if anyone wants more specifics.

Please do search out that article, mister Machine-Gun. Power-armour
might be interesting, if only for curiosity's sake; it'd certainly
explain how people can actually function in Military-grade armour that
weighs what, 20+ kilos by itself? Between that and the other gear
they'd have to pack, power-armour would be about the only way they could
*move*!

Danyel Woods
9604801@********.ac.nz
'Are you deliberately trying to drive me insane?'
'The universe is already mad. Anything else would be
redundant.'

Further Reading

If you enjoyed reading about Aztech Armoured Troopers, you may also be interested in:

Disclaimer

These messages were posted a long time ago on a mailing list far, far away. The copyright to their contents probably lies with the original authors of the individual messages, but since they were published in an electronic forum that anyone could subscribe to, and the logs were available to subscribers and most likely non-subscribers as well, it's felt that re-publishing them here is a kind of public service.