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Message no. 1
From: Martin Steffens <BDI05626@***.RHIJ.NL>
Subject: Re: Barriers to protect your spell-locks
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 11:56:42 +0100
The rules in the Black Book contradict themselves (again) about not
being able to cast spells inside a barrier.

About hermetic circles and medicine lodges:
p. 147: "Spells cast at targets INSIDE such barriers must penetrate
the barrier before they can manage to attack their target"

This indicates (indirectly) that it is possible to casts spells from
the inside.
The description of the barrier-spell states however:

"Add one-half the spell force to the target number of ALL magicians
casting spells across the barrier."

So I would say the Sandman is right in respect in using barriers to
protect spell-locks (i.e. they are fairly useless) but you can
protect spell-locks with the first type of barrier. BTW you can
switch spell-locks on and off (as any focus) so they should be save
most of the time.

The best way to protect them in my opinion is to make a combined
focus, preferably one focus with a very high rating which acts like a
protection-barrier for the lesser foci. It takes more time and karma
but it's worth it.

Greetings

Fael Inis <aka Martin Steffens>
Message no. 2
From: "Daniel M Warner Jr." <jwarner@******.OSWEGO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Barriers to protect your spell-locks
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 15:40:53 -0500
On Tue, 6 Dec 1994, Martin Steffens wrote:

> protect spell-locks with the first type of barrier. BTW you can
> switch spell-locks on and off (as any focus) so they should be save
> most of the time.

I have a question, when did this start? Turning a spell-lock on
and off, my GM's have always run them as permanent things once they've
been turned on. Is there a rule in the books about this or is it just
people's house rules?
Thanks,
-Dan (no sig)
Message no. 3
From: pran r mukherjee <pran@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Barriers to protect your spell-locks
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 17:00:18 -0500
It specifically states in the rules (pg 138, SR II, bottom of first
column) "If a magician spots the lock, he can remove it. Once removed,
the link is broken and the lock goes dormant... The magician who creates
the spell locks can activate and deactivate them at will." Hope this helps.

On Tue, 6 Dec 1994, Daniel M Warner Jr. wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Dec 1994, Martin Steffens wrote:
>
> > protect spell-locks with the first type of barrier. BTW you can
> > switch spell-locks on and off (as any focus) so they should be save
> > most of the time.
>
> I have a question, when did this start? Turning a spell-lock on
> and off, my GM's have always run them as permanent things once they've
> been turned on. Is there a rule in the books about this or is it just
> people's house rules?
> Thanks,
> -Dan (no sig)
>
Message no. 4
From: wadycki andrew m <wadycki@***.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Barriers to protect your spell-locks
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 16:57:09 -0600
On Tue, 6 Dec 1994, Daniel M Warner Jr. wrote:

> I have a question, when did this start? Turning a spell-lock on
> and off, my GM's have always run them as permanent things once they've
> been turned on. Is there a rule in the books about this or is it just
> people's house rules?
> Thanks,
> -Dan (no sig)
It is stated in the Black Book, I believe under foci. I think it takes a
simple action to activate. They also say how other mages can turn it on
or something. Don't have the book right next to me, but look it up.

-Andrew
Message no. 5
From: Jason Ustica <usticaj@****.PR.ERAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Barriers to protect your spell-locks
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 23:54:48 -0700
On Tue, 6 Dec 1994, pran r mukherjee wrote:

> It specifically states in the rules (pg 138, SR II, bottom of first
> column) "If a magician spots the lock, he can remove it. Once removed,
> the link is broken and the lock goes dormant... The magician who creates
> the spell locks can activate and deactivate them at will." Hope this helps.

Yes but it also goes on to say once it is removed "It must be re-bonded
to be of any future use." If you have a lot of Karma to burn, well go
right ahead and bond away. For newer characters it could be a real headache.

--Jason--
Message no. 6
From: Martin Steffens <BDI05626@***.RHIJ.NL>
Subject: Re: Barriers to protect your spell-locks
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 11:26:40 +0100
On Tue, 6 Dec 1994 Jason Ustica wrote:

> Yes but it also goes on to say once it is removed "It must be re-bonded
> to be of any future use." If you have a lot of Karma to burn, well go
> right ahead and bond away. For newer characters it could be a real headache.

I always intepreted this in a different way (I realy don't know if
it's in the rules!): the mage who owns the lock (or focus) can switch
it on and off at will at no karma cost. Only if someone else breaks
the bonding you must re-bind it.

Greetings,

Fael Inis <aka Martin Steffens>
Message no. 7
From: pran r mukherjee <pran@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Barriers to protect your spell-locks
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 14:38:55 -0500
Yes, once it's REMOVED it must be re-bonded. Any mage can remove it.
The creating mage can ACTIVATE and DEACTIVATE it without removing it, so
it doesn't need to be re-bonded.

On Tue, 6 Dec 1994, Jason Ustica wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Dec 1994, pran r mukherjee wrote:
>
> > It specifically states in the rules (pg 138, SR II, bottom of first
> > column) "If a magician spots the lock, he can remove it. Once removed,
> > the link is broken and the lock goes dormant... The magician who creates
> > the spell locks can activate and deactivate them at will." Hope this
helps.
>
> Yes but it also goes on to say once it is removed "It must be re-bonded
> to be of any future use." If you have a lot of Karma to burn, well go
> right ahead and bond away. For newer characters it could be a real headache.
>
> --Jason--
>
Message no. 8
From: Matt Hufstetler <gt2778a@*****.GATECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Barriers to protect your spell-locks
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 15:07:39 -0500
> On Tue, 6 Dec 1994, pran r mukherjee wrote:
>
> > It specifically states in the rules (pg 138, SR II, bottom of first
> > column) "If a magician spots the lock, he can remove it. Once removed,
> > the link is broken and the lock goes dormant... The magician who creates
> > the spell locks can activate and deactivate them at will." Hope this
helps.
Jason Writes:
>
> Yes but it also goes on to say once it is removed "It must be re-bonded
> to be of any future use." If you have a lot of Karma to burn, well go
> right ahead and bond away. For newer characters it could be a real headache.

Yes, but turning it off is not the same thing as removing it. When you
turn off your Power Focus do you have to RE-Bond it? I sure hope not.
Message no. 9
From: Erik S Jameson <esj@***.UUG.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Barriers to protect your spell-locks
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 13:10:43 -0700
On Wed, 7 Dec 1994, Matt Hufstetler wrote:
>
> Yes, but turning it off is not the same thing as removing it. When you
> turn off your Power Focus do you have to RE-Bond it? I sure hope not.
>
Egads no!! Turning off (de-activating) any magic item, be it a power
focus or a lock, does not un-bond it. You can activate (turn on) or
de-activate (turn off) your items at will. Now, if someone else comes in
and destroys your link, that's something else entirely...

Erik, a.k.a. the Whistler
Message no. 10
From: Shadowdancer <BRIDDLE@*****.VINU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Barriers to protect your spell-locks
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 19:15:45 EST
Fael Inis writes:

> I always intepreted this in a different way (I realy don't know if
> it's in the rules!): the mage who owns the lock (or focus) can switch
> it on and off at will at no karma cost. Only if someone else breaks
> the bonding you must re-bind it.
This is true. Read carefully; FASA likes to hide minute details in the
text. :-)


Many people fear Death, saying it is the bitter end.
I say Death is just lonely, crying out for a friend.

-Shadowdancer- <briddle@*****.vinu.edu>

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