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Message no. 1
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Blindness Questions
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 07:07:42 -0400
Snip

>They should since you dony use your eyes to see the matrix
>the matrix is sent striaght to the brain so no goggles are needed
>
>as long as there brain works the should be able to "see" the matrix

If were talking about the blindness flaw, the following affliction is from
brain damage or defect that prevents the optical center from working. So no
it wouldn't work since the part of the brain that the simsense image is sent
to doesn't work or isn't formed correctly.

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Message no. 2
From: L Canthros <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Blindness Questions
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 11:36:39 EDT
On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 07:07:42 -0400 NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
writes:
>Snip
>
>>They should since you dony use your eyes to see the matrix
>>the matrix is sent striaght to the brain so no goggles are needed
>>
>>as long as there brain works the should be able to "see" the matrix
>
>If were talking about the blindness flaw, the following affliction is
from
>brain damage or defect that prevents the optical center from working. So
no
>it wouldn't work since the part of the brain that the simsense image is
sent
>to doesn't work or isn't formed correctly.

You know, the Blindness flaw also means that you can't use simsense or
cyberdecks...since the occipital lobe is damaged, it can't process visual
information...at best, you'd get all your other senses doing what the
ASIST interface told them to do, but you'd still be completely blind.

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Message no. 3
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Blindness Questions
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 20:22:57 +0000
On 20 Apr 97 at 11:36, L Canthros wrote:
[snip blindness]
> You know, the Blindness flaw also means that you can't use simsense or
> cyberdecks...since the occipital lobe is damaged, it can't process visual
> information...at best, you'd get all your other senses doing what the
> ASIST interface told them to do, but you'd still be completely blind.
Hm.

Can an ASIST interface be programmed to translate visual information
into other senses? Like hearing, touch, maybe smell? Like, offensive IC
translates to ... *shrug* tiger smell... Or an itching right foot means
someone looks you over?

Can't be much more work then a reality filter. Easy solution might even
include text in that dot-writing used by blind...

Sascha
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Message no. 4
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: Blindness Questions
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 14:42:19 -0600
Sascha Pabst wrote:
|
| Hm.
|
| Can an ASIST interface be programmed to translate visual information
| into other senses? Like hearing, touch, maybe smell? Like, offensive IC
| translates to ... *shrug* tiger smell... Or an itching right foot means
| someone looks you over?

Hm. Can a virus reprogram the ASIST interface of a cyberdeck... and
if it's Black have a long term affect after the decker's unplugged?
<evil GM grin>

| Can't be much more work then a reality filter. Easy solution might
even | include text in that dot-writing used by blind...

Oh, in answer to your question, yes (IMO). Use sound for location
(direction, and frequency or volume for range), tactile and olfactory
senses for identification, emotional shifts for the nasty stuff (cold
fear for Black IC).


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Message no. 5
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Blindness Questions
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 10:45:23 +1000
> > You know, the Blindness flaw also means that you can't use simsense or
> > cyberdecks...since the occipital lobe is damaged, it can't process visual
> > information...at best, you'd get all your other senses doing what the
> > ASIST interface told them to do, but you'd still be completely blind.
> Hm.
>
> Can an ASIST interface be programmed to translate visual information
> into other senses? Like hearing, touch, maybe smell? Like, offensive IC
> translates to ... *shrug* tiger smell... Or an itching right foot means
> someone looks you over?
>
> Can't be much more work then a reality filter. Easy solution might even
> include text in that dot-writing used by blind...
>
Information overload comes to mind. In 'Otherland' by Tad Williams it
turns out that one of the 'deckers' is blind, and she translates the
matrix by a kind of braile interface which is largely unexplained....
They accidently deck into the equivalent of an Ultra Violet host, and she
starts to go mad because she can't comprenhend all the info. fast enough.

Bleach
Message no. 6
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Blindness Questions
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 15:40:56 +0000
On 21 Apr 97 at 14:42, David Buehrer wrote:
[snip]
> Hm. Can a virus reprogram the ASIST interface of a cyberdeck... and
> if it's Black have a long term affect after the decker's unplugged?
> <evil GM grin>
See Lone Star Sourcebook, p. 125, or VRII, pp. 49-50 for examples. Some
Evil GM(tm) was faster then you :-)

[snip Question: Visual data translated into other sensorium]
> Oh, in answer to your question, yes (IMO). Use sound for location
> (direction, and frequency or volume for range), tactile and olfactory
> senses for identification, emotional shifts for the nasty stuff (cold
> fear for Black IC).
Hm. Now hook a camera to the cyberdeck, and you might overcome the
blindness flaw...

Sascha
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