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Message no. 1
From: Dust <rogan@*******.BERGEN.ORG>
Subject: Books I can't find
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 15:24:31 -0500
Just a general question to the list:

Which out of print Shadowrun books do you wish FASA could reprint?

Me personally, I'm not sure whether these books are either out of print or
just hard to find but I'd really like to get these:

Paranormal Animals of North America
Paranormal Animals of Europe
Native American Nations
Tir Tairngire
Corporate Shadowfiles

Lates,

Dust
Message no. 2
From: Jaymz <justin@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 15:30:53 -0500
At 03:24 PM 1/9/98 -0500, Dust wrote:
# Just a general question to the list:
#
# Which out of print Shadowrun books do you wish FASA could reprint?
#
# Me personally, I'm not sure whether these books are either out of print or
# just hard to find but I'd really like to get these:
#
# Paranormal Animals of North America
# Paranormal Animals of Europe
# Native American Nations
# Tir Tairngire
# Corporate Shadowfiles

I recently got all but one of these books online, for about 1/2 original price
I already had the North America book
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Message no. 3
From: Damon Harper <nomad74@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:25:03 PST
>Just a general question to the list:
>
>Which out of print Shadowrun books do you wish FASA could reprint?

I can smell the new can of worms being opened...

>
>Me personally, I'm not sure whether these books are either out of print
or
>just hard to find but I'd really like to get these:
>
>Paranormal Animals of North America
>Paranormal Animals of Europe

IMO I think it's a mistake to stop printing these two because they are
pretty basic. It would be like T$R cancelling the monsterous manuel(ye
Gods, did I just compare SR to AD&D? Shoot me).

>Native American Nations

These books are a good entertaining read, but not much else. Nothing
a GM couldn't really improvise- I have to admit, the adventures weren't
too bad(even for Nigel Findley).

>Tir Tairngire

Again, a good read, but not really something that should be staple(I
didn't know it was out of print).

>Corporate Shadowfiles

I looked through copies of this many times at the book stores and
nothing ever really jumped out at me. I'm sure it's got some subtle
behind the scenes type info, but nothing really grabbed me.
If you want these books, I suggest you post in the newsgroups under
"rec.games.frp.marketplace" Chances are, someones got them for sale
since they aren't really hard to find- some "Mom n' Pop" RPG stores
might have them as well.


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Message no. 4
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:37:21 -0700
Dust wrote:
/
/ Just a general question to the list:
/
/ Which out of print Shadowrun books do you wish FASA could reprint?

Universal Brotherhood.

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Message no. 5
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:43:07 -0500
On Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 01:25:03PM -0800, Damon Harper wrote:
> >Just a general question to the list:
> >
> >Which out of print Shadowrun books do you wish FASA could reprint?
>
> I can smell the new can of worms being opened...
>
> >
> >Me personally, I'm not sure whether these books are either out of print
> or
> >just hard to find but I'd really like to get these:
> >
> >Paranormal Animals of North America
> >Paranormal Animals of Europe
>
> IMO I think it's a mistake to stop printing these two because they are
> pretty basic. It would be like T$R cancelling the monsterous manuel(ye
> Gods, did I just compare SR to AD&D? Shoot me).
>
> >Native American Nations
>
> These books are a good entertaining read, but not much else. Nothing
> a GM couldn't really improvise- I have to admit, the adventures weren't
> too bad(even for Nigel Findley).
>
> >Tir Tairngire
>
> Again, a good read, but not really something that should be staple(I
> didn't know it was out of print).
>
> >Corporate Shadowfiles
>
> I looked through copies of this many times at the book stores and
> nothing ever really jumped out at me. I'm sure it's got some subtle
> behind the scenes type info, but nothing really grabbed me.
> If you want these books, I suggest you post in the newsgroups under
> "rec.games.frp.marketplace" Chances are, someones got them for sale
> since they aren't really hard to find- some "Mom n' Pop" RPG stores
> might have them as well.
>
>
Check any local hobby store that deals in used material.
Our local store may have a copy of NAN and several modules
last time I looked. War Dogs in jacksonville occasionally does
as well. I'm hoping they update(cleanup,reprint whatever) some of the critters etc when
they release Predators & Prey (Supposedly this month).
Titan games on the net occasionally carries them as well.
The Corp SF book is great stuff for runs by the way.
Hell I actually learned some stuff from it, and impressed a teacher once. :)


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Message no. 6
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:44:13 -0500
On Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 02:37:21PM -0700, David Buehrer wrote:
> Dust wrote:
> /
> / Just a general question to the list:
> /
> / Which out of print Shadowrun books do you wish FASA could reprint?
>
> Universal Brotherhood.
>
True, the story in that is wonderful. One of their better ones, and
at the time, no one knew anything about the "Bugs", now its not
quite the same.
Later.


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Message no. 7
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:43:41 -0500
On 9 Jan 98 at 14:37, David Buehrer wrote:

> Universal Brotherhood.

Without a doubt. The critter books would be nice too.

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Message no. 8
From: Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:57:29 -0800
Dust wrote:

> Which out of print Shadowrun books do you wish FASA could reprint?

> Me personally, I'm not sure whether these books are either out of print or
> just hard to find but I'd really like to get these:

> Paranormal Animals of North America
> Paranormal Animals of Europe

This would make a nifty two-fer-one; at last all the damn Critter powers
would be in one location, without having to worry if it got updated in
some other sourcebook.

> Native American Nations

Ditto the above. Honestly, though, I never found the stuff that
interesting. (...This said despite running a campaign in the
Algonkian-Manitoo Council for a loong time.)



-Matt

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Message no. 9
From: Kristling Ravenwing <kristling@*******.CROSSWINDS.NET>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:08:20 -0500
-
And Damon Harper <nomad74@*******.COM> did say to the shocke diezens of
shadowrn
> >Just a general question to the list:
> >
> >Which out of print Shadowrun books do you wish FASA could reprint?
>
> I can smell the new can of worms being opened...
oh, good, I SO wabted to go fishinfg for thwaps. <groan>
>
> >
> >Me personally, I'm not sure whether these books are either out of print
> or
> >just hard to find but I'd really like to get these:
> >
> >Paranormal Animals of North America
> >Paranormal Animals of Europe
>
> IMO I think it's a mistake to stop printing these two because they are
> pretty basic. It would be like T$R cancelling the monsterous manuel(ye
> Gods, did I just compare SR to AD&D? Shoot me).
okay.
BANG!

Anywho, I think none of us can decide what "essential" or "pretty
basic"
for anyone but our selves. Every gm needs to decided that for Him or her
self.

The first source book I got was the Grimoire, 2nd Ed. many of the people
who GMed and played Sr around me when i lived in that area told me I had
chosen all wrong, that I shoulda got....

I got the grimmoire to expand the magic system. I wanted to do that first
since the magic aspect was what inticed me in the first place. I had
trouble I don't now making that stuff up. so, the Grimmy is the only source
book i ever bought.

If ever you feel you need to by a sourcebook, take a deep breath, close you
eyes and ask your self:

1) Am I totally at a loss to improvise the stuff in here?
2) Do I think I would enjoy this book?

If you answer none of those questions yes, think twice, the book might end
up a dust collector. If you answer one of them yes, browse it on the book
stand, or read some of the reviews (The ones in Adam Jury's e-zine, The
Shadowrun Supplemental, are well written) on the net. If you answer both
questions yes, go for it. Enjoy it.

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Message no. 10
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:15:06 +0100
Dust said on 15:24/ 9 Jan 98...

> Just a general question to the list:
>
> Which out of print Shadowrun books do you wish FASA could reprint?

Not many, really, as I have most of them already :)

> Me personally, I'm not sure whether these books are either out of print or
> just hard to find but I'd really like to get these:

AFAIK most are out of print, but I'm not 100% sure. NAN2 is still
available, I believe.

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Message no. 11
From: s c rose <scrose@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 07:07:32 -0600
Kristling Ravenwing wrote:
>
> -
> And Damon Harper <nomad74@*******.COM> did say to the shocke diezens of
> shadowrn
> > >Just a general question to the list:
> > >
> > >Which out of print Shadowrun books do you wish FASA could reprint?
> >
> > I can smell the new can of worms being opened...
> oh, good, I SO wabted to go fishinfg for thwaps. <groan>
> >
> > >
> > >Me personally, I'm not sure whether these books are either out of print
> > or
> > >just hard to find but I'd really like to get these:
> > >
> > >Paranormal Animals of North America
> > >Paranormal Animals of Europe

Critter books are nice but not essential if you have the basic rules you
to give some ideas about the basic state of wildlife it's not that
difficult to make up paranormal critters. BTW one of the local book
stores in my area has one I can give the address and phone it you really
want it that bad...


> > IMO I think it's a mistake to stop printing these two because they are

They would not stop printing a book that sold well FASA still prints the
seattle source book after all.
Source books are a funny beast, FASA in the business of making gaming
materials and those that do not sell well and make money are going to
discontinued. That is business but they have to walk a fine line between
providing new materials and keeping popular titles on the market...

Regards
Message no. 12
From: Les Ward <lward@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:50:19 -0500
>> Paranormal Animals of North America
>> Paranormal Animals of Europe

>This would make a nifty two-fer-one; at last all the damn Critter powers
>would be in one location, without having to worry if it got updated in
>some other sourcebook.

The Paranormal Animals of Europe contains the definitive published list of
critter powers. It overrides both the BBB and Paranormal Animals of North
America (although many of the powers are the same).

>> Native American Nations

>Ditto the above. Honestly, though, I never found the stuff that
>interesting. (...This said despite running a campaign in the
>Algonkian-Manitoo Council for a loong time.)

I loved the NAN books, though I'm biased, being from Colorado. They were
not very detailed, but that made them good in a way. The less detail, the
more I get to fill in. But it gave a good basic political synopsis. I would
like to see NAN I and II (the sourcebook parts only) reprinted in one book.
It sucked to have the runs in the book.

I'd also like to see the player book of the Denver box set reprinted on its
own. I get the impression that people didn't like Denver that much, but I
thought it was fantastic. It really bugged me, though, that they did it as
a costly and fluff-filled box set. Had is just been the books, it would
have been much better.

As for the Universal Brotherhood, the novella ("Universal Brotherhood") was
a million times better than the run ("Missing Blood"). "Universal
Brotherhood" was some of the best writting FASA has ever published. I also
liked the subliminal "bugs" on the cover of Missing Blood. FASA should put
the novella up on their web site.

Wordman
Message no. 13
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:02:18 -0500
On Tue, Jan 13, 1998 at 01:50:19PM -0500, Les Ward wrote:
<SNIP>
>
> I'd also like to see the player book of the Denver box set reprinted on its
> own. I get the impression that people didn't like Denver that much, but I
> thought it was fantastic. It really bugged me, though, that they did it as
> a costly and fluff-filled box set. Had is just been the books, it would
> have been much better.
>
I'll back you on this one. I loved the Denver book, and it has
great potential for some runs. If done right it has a totally different
feel then Seattle. The maps, and GM's book were fairly useless.
(No hard facts, just pick 1 of 4 options for the truth, and the ideas
were fairly lame).


> As for the Universal Brotherhood, the novella ("Universal Brotherhood") was
> a million times better than the run ("Missing Blood"). "Universal
> Brotherhood" was some of the best writting FASA has ever published. I also
> liked the subliminal "bugs" on the cover of Missing Blood. FASA should put
> the novella up on their web site.
>
Once again, dead on. The novel was wonderful, the adventure mediocre.
I would actually like to see that, and several of Stackpoles "Raven's
Gang" stories from Challenge, etc reprinted in an anthology.

One thing I would like to see FASA do, is occasionally drop
tidbits in modules and books, about the headlines of the world.
Old modules use to list a good and bad headline at the end.
More then once I got some adventure ideas, from the other headlines
mentioned. Its a simple way to keep the world updated, and gives
it a moving forward, current feel.
IMHO of course.

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Message no. 14
From: Peter David Boddy <pdboddy@****.CARLETON.CA>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:11:05 EST
Les Ward writes:
> I'd also like to see the player book of the Denver box set reprinted on its
> own. I get the impression that people didn't like Denver that much, but I
> thought it was fantastic. It really bugged me, though, that they did it as
> a costly and fluff-filled box set. Had is just been the books, it would
> have been much better.

I agree, I didn't want to buy the Denver boxed set, but I would buy the
Denver sourcebook if it came out on it's own. I like the ideas set out in
the Denver boxed set, even had one or two runs set in there (I had the
players doing a run across a large portion of North America, ala Smokey
and The Bandit, it was entertaining to watch them negotiate their way
through NA, let alone Denver (their final destination)).

> As for the Universal Brotherhood, the novella ("Universal Brotherhood") was
> a million times better than the run ("Missing Blood"). "Universal
> Brotherhood" was some of the best writting FASA has ever published. I also
> liked the subliminal "bugs" on the cover of Missing Blood. FASA should put
> the novella up on their web site.

Universal Brotherhood, now there was an awesome adventure. Right up there
with Harlequin...gives me shivers thinking about it (lets just say, we
lost a large chunk of our party).

Pete

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Message no. 15
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:35:24 -0500
On Tue, Jan 13, 1998 at 02:11:05PM -0500, Peter David Boddy wrote:
> Les Ward writes:
> > I'd also like to see the player book of the Denver box set reprinted on its
> > own. I get the impression that people didn't like Denver that much, but I
> > thought it was fantastic. It really bugged me, though, that they did it as
> > a costly and fluff-filled box set. Had is just been the books, it would
> > have been much better.
>
> I agree, I didn't want to buy the Denver boxed set, but I would buy the
> Denver sourcebook if it came out on it's own. I like the ideas set out in
> the Denver boxed set, even had one or two runs set in there (I had the
> players doing a run across a large portion of North America, ala Smokey
> and The Bandit, it was entertaining to watch them negotiate their way
> through NA, let alone Denver (their final destination)).
>
> > As for the Universal Brotherhood, the novella ("Universal
Brotherhood") was
> > a million times better than the run ("Missing Blood"). "Universal
> > Brotherhood" was some of the best writting FASA has ever published. I also
> > liked the subliminal "bugs" on the cover of Missing Blood. FASA should
put
> > the novella up on their web site.
>
> Universal Brotherhood, now there was an awesome adventure. Right up there
> with Harlequin...gives me shivers thinking about it (lets just say, we
> lost a large chunk of our party).
>
Heh..I think alot of us did. At the time, Bug Spirits were
totally new, and if your GM did it right, horrifying, scary, and
very hard to beat. I think we ran Queen Euphoria at around
the same time. It was messy.
Later.


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Message no. 16
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:59:22 +0100
Les Ward said on 13:50/13 Jan 98...

> As for the Universal Brotherhood, the novella ("Universal Brotherhood") was
> a million times better than the run ("Missing Blood").

I must say I liked the adventure, and I'd rate it as one of the better
ones FASA's brought out.

> "Universal Brotherhood" was some of the best writting FASA has ever
> published. I also liked the subliminal "bugs" on the cover of Missing
> Blood.

I also liked the "JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN" on the player hand-out,
except it didn't reproduce in the photocopy I made for the players :(

> FASA should put the novella up on their web site.

Or re-print it.

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Message no. 17
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:41:48 -0700
[snip: desire for Universal Brotherhood]

Hey, since it's out of print it couldn't hurt FASA's sales if someone
scanned it and put it up on a website (with FASA's permision of
course). Anyone with UB, the capability, and the desire want to
email FASAMike and see what he says?

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Message no. 18
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:14:25 +0100
David Buehrer said on 7:41/14 Jan 98...

> Hey, since it's out of print it couldn't hurt FASA's sales if someone
> scanned it and put it up on a website (with FASA's permision of
> course). Anyone with UB, the capability, and the desire want to
> email FASAMike and see what he says?

Erm, yeah, fine... I'll just check how big it is, okay?

Missing Blood: 56 pages
Zeb Wanderly file: 88 pages
Total: 144 pages

Since most of it's in B/W except for three pages, 4 bits per pixel would
be enough for 141 pages. Assuming a scan at 100 dpi (for a "kind of okay"
quality), that ends up with 11 x 8.5 x 100 x 4 = 37,400 bits per page, or
36.5 kB. Multiplied by 141 that makes 5.03 MB for just the B/W bits. For
the color pages, you'd need 8-bit graphics, or 224,400 bits more. That's
about 5.25 MB in all for uncompressed graphics. I don't know the
compression ratios for GIF or JPEG, which would reduce it by quite a bit.

Of course, using OCR that could be reduced to a small fraction of 5.25 MB,
but you need good (and well-trained) OCR software for that. I tried it
once, and I think I showed you a sample of what came out...

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Message no. 19
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:44:26 -0700
Gurth wrote:
/
/ David Buehrer said on 7:41/14 Jan 98...
/
/ > Hey, since it's out of print it couldn't hurt FASA's sales if someone
/ > scanned it and put it up on a website (with FASA's permision of
/ > course). Anyone with UB, the capability, and the desire want to
/ > email FASAMike and see what he says?
/
/ Erm, yeah, fine... I'll just check how big it is, okay?
/
/ Missing Blood: 56 pages
/ Zeb Wanderly file: 88 pages
/ Total: 144 pages
/
/ Since most of it's in B/W except for three pages, 4 bits per pixel would
/ be enough for 141 pages. Assuming a scan at 100 dpi (for a "kind of okay"
/ quality), that ends up with 11 x 8.5 x 100 x 4 = 37,400 bits per page, or
/ 36.5 kB. Multiplied by 141 that makes 5.03 MB for just the B/W bits. For
/ the color pages, you'd need 8-bit graphics, or 224,400 bits more. That's
/ about 5.25 MB in all for uncompressed graphics. I don't know the
/ compression ratios for GIF or JPEG, which would reduce it by quite a bit.
/
/ Of course, using OCR that could be reduced to a small fraction of 5.25 MB,
/ but you need good (and well-trained) OCR software for that. I tried it
/ once, and I think I showed you a sample of what came out...

So approximately 10 MB? No problem :)

However you're right that what you've got wouldn't do it justice.
Tell you what, I've got access to some pretty decent technology and
software for this (scanning and transfering electric documents is
what my company does) so mail UB to me and I'll take care of it <nods
head up and down vigorously with a big grin on his face>.

-David
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Message no. 20
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:58:25 -0500
On 14 Jan 98 at 21:14, Gurth wrote:

> Erm, yeah, fine... I'll just check how big it is, okay?
>
> Of course, using OCR that could be reduced to a small fraction of
> 5.25 MB, but you need good (and well-trained) OCR software for that.

If it only going to be 5-10 Meg, I'd say its more than worth it.
Hell, I've downloaded games demos bigger than that. Converting it to
PDF would probably be best.

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Message no. 21
From: "J. G. du Chatinier" <chatin@*******.NL>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:06:51 +0100
At 21:14 14/01/1998 +0100, you wrote:
>David Buehrer said on 7:41/14 Jan 98...
>
>> Hey, since it's out of print it couldn't hurt FASA's sales if someone
>> scanned it and put it up on a website (with FASA's permision of
>> course). Anyone with UB, the capability, and the desire want to
>> email FASAMike and see what he says?
>
>Erm, yeah, fine... I'll just check how big it is, okay?
<<KA-SNIP piece of scan-tech-stuff.>>

Well, whaddabout how TSR did it? If what I remember is right, they took the
original computer files and posted it in .txt format on their homepage.
Granted, there were _plenty_ of typo's, and granted again, they did this
only a few months before they went out of business, but.....
Hey, it'd be cool, neh? (Then again, world-peace would be cool, but I don't
see it happenin' either...;))

Jod
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Message no. 22
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:43:55 +0100
J. G. du Chatinier said on 23:06/14 Jan 98...

> Well, whaddabout how TSR did it? If what I remember is right, they took the
> original computer files and posted it in .txt format on their homepage.

That would be much easier, but it would require either: A) FASA digging up
the old files; B) someone typing it all in; or C) good OCR software. At
any rate I don't think FASA would do or allow any of these...

(Why should I care about all this anyway? I already own a copy of the
Universal Brotherhood :)

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Message no. 23
From: Les Ward <lward@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Books I can't find
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:23:41 -0500
Gurth said:
>David Buehrer said on 7:41/14 Jan 98...
>> Hey, since it's out of print it couldn't hurt FASA's sales if someone
>> scanned it and put it up on a website (with FASA's permision of
>> course). Anyone with UB, the capability, and the desire want to
>> email FASAMike and see what he says?

>Erm, yeah, fine... I'll just check how big it is, okay?
>Missing Blood: 56 pages
>Zeb Wanderly file: 88 pages
>Total: 144 pages

This actually wouldn't be to bad in PDF. Gurth's right, though, you
couldn't scan it. If someone contacts Mike about it, they should actually
try to get an electronic version of the source, or at least a postscript
version of it. (Hey, it's a pipe dream anyway, might as well go for broke.)

Wordman

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