| From: | Augustus shadowrun@********.net |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Breaking through doors |
| Date: | Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:35:21 -0700 |
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C03E88.6BFEA9E0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
I was looking for something in the way of rules to cover a PC/NPC bashing through doors
(running to it, shoulder forward, in the heat of melee combat)
Anyhow... the rules pretty much cover cars breaking through barriers (though using those
rules nobody could charge into a cheap door and hope to break it down)
And the rules cover melee attacks against doors (ie: punching a door does (STR)M damage to
the door, resisting with unmodified barrier rating... you can beat a cheap door down this
way)
But I was looking for something abit more... if anybody has any rules that might cover
something like this (or maybe I was missing something that was already there)
And if there would be an 'attack' roll... what would those dice consist of?
Rolling:
skill: can't see how melee/unarmed combat would help beat up a door
reaction: Can't think of why your reaction would help you here... its not
moving in any way
mental attribute: none of these would make sense in beating a door in
quickness: maybe if the door was opening and closing and you had to
'time it right' to hit it... but otherwise no.
strength: this makes more sense than any of the previous ones, but
just how are you using strength when it comes to crashing in
to a door? Its more of a 'your speed and your mass versus the
door)
body: this maybe makes the most sense, what do people think about
it? representing your size and mass versus the door... should the
bashing PC roll BODY dice in the form of a melee attack of putting
the shoulder to the door?
And then the power level... I'm either thinking (BODY+STRENGTH) or the average of
(BODY+STRENGTH). (There is also using just body or just strength)
If you use BODY+STRENGTH: then a troll can pretty much run and break on through almost
anything, possibly even reinforced concrete walls... even an average human can bust down
most doors (all stats at 3).
If you use the average of BODY+STRENGTH: then a troll can pretty much break on through
"Reinforced/Armoured Glass" and maybe "Structural Material" (barrier
ratings 8-12) while an average human can break through "Cheap Material" and
maybe "Average Material" (barrier ratings 3-4)
Is that a fair assumption of what a PC/NPC should be able to do by taking a running start
at a door and putting the shoulder to it? (the purpose of making the attack test is in the
event that the PC/NPC doesn't break through the material on sheer 'Power Level' alone)
Any thoughts/opinions/rules people might have to share?
thanks,
Clint
Augustus
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C03E88.6BFEA9E0
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"
http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META content="MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was looking for something in the way
of rules to
cover a PC/NPC bashing through doors (running to it, shoulder forward, in the
heat of melee combat)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyhow... the rules pretty much cover
cars breaking
through barriers (though using those rules nobody could charge into a cheap door
and hope to break it down)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And the rules cover melee attacks
against doors
(ie: punching a door does (STR)M damage to the door, resisting with unmodified
barrier rating... you can beat a cheap door down this way)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But I was looking for something abit
more... if
anybody has any rules that might cover something like this (or maybe I was
missing something that was already there)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And if there would be an 'attack'
roll... what
would those dice consist of?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rolling:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> skill:
can't see how
melee/unarmed combat would help beat up a door</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
reaction: Can't think of
why your reaction would help you here... its not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
moving in any way</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> mental
attribute: none of these
would make sense in beating a door in</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
quickness: maybe if the door was
opening and closing and you had to </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
'time it right' to hit it... but otherwise
no.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
strength: this makes more sense
than any of the previous ones, but</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
just how are you using strength when it comes to
crashing in</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
to a door? Its more of a 'your speed
and your
mass versus the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
door)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> body:
this maybe makes the most
sense, what do people think about </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
it? representing your size and mass versus the
door...
should the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
bashing PC roll BODY dice in the form of a melee attack of
putting</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
the shoulder to the door?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And then the power level... I'm either
thinking
(BODY+STRENGTH) or the average of (BODY+STRENGTH). (There is also using
just body or just strength)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you use BODY+STRENGTH:
then a troll can
pretty much run and break on through almost anything, possibly even reinforced
concrete walls... even an average human can bust down most doors (all stats at
3).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you use the average of
BODY+STRENGTH: then a
troll can pretty much break on through "Reinforced/Armoured Glass" and maybe
"Structural Material" (barrier ratings 8-12) while an average human
can
break through "Cheap Material" and maybe "Average Material"
</FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2>(barrier ratings 3-4) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is that a fair assumption of what a
PC/NPC should
be able to do by taking a running start at a door and putting the shoulder to
it? (the purpose of making the attack test is in the event that the PC/NPC
doesn't break through the material on sheer 'Power Level' alone)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any thoughts/opinions/rules people
might have to
share?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Clint</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Augustus</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML>
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C03E88.6BFEA9E0--
