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Message no. 1
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon@*******.com
Subject: Breeder definition (Steve Kenson, Jak Koke and Co. - pay attention!)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:59:05 PST
>Yes, all good, except....the novels aren't always considered canon. I
>believe there was some recent debate over many 'mistakes' in the latest
>novel, 'Run Fast, Die Hard'. Basically what came out of it, was that
>novels are not considered canon, unless there is something backing them
up
>in one of the sourcebooks. As no-one has posted anything backing this
up
>from any sourcebook, I'm inclined to believe it isn't there, anywhere.
>I've checked all mine, and I can't find anything in a sourcebook that
says
>anyone 'goblinized' into a elf or dwarf, and I have all the
sourcebooks.
>So, I'd agree with the side that says no one goblinized into elfs or
>dwarfs, only orks and trolls.
>
>Dave

Oh yes - I STARTED that debate about 'Run Hard, Die Fast'.

But IMNSHO, that was one of the shoddiest editing and writing efforts of
any of the Shadowrun novels.

Also, the book I refer to was the fifth one written. You would think
that, by now, someone would have addressed the problems in it - if they
were problems. For instance, everyone knows that the troll in Nosferatu
whose essence apparently regenerated when he was possessed by a big-ass
spirit (which also entailed rejecting all his cyber) is a one-off thing
- it'll never happen to your players. But I haven't heard anyone
official say this was wrong.

Which is not to say that it isn't. But, no offense guys, I tend to trust
Chris Kubasik's writing over a non-existent denial in the books or your
arguments. :)

So let's settle this once and for all, shall we? Steve, Jak, Jon Szeto,
Anders Swenson, K, even - anyone who's 'in the loop' - can you confirm,
deny or find out whether or not any elves or dwarves did 'express'?

*Doc' was having fun here, but doesn't really want to look any stupider
than usual...*

Doc'

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Message no. 2
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Breeder definition (Steve Kenson, Jak Koke and Co. - pay attention!)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:24:25 EST
In a message dated 2/18/1999 9:04:20 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
docwagon@*******.com writes:

> So let's settle this once and for all, shall we? Steve, Jak, Jon Szeto,
> Anders Swenson, K, even - anyone who's 'in the loop' - can you confirm,
> deny or find out whether or not any elves or dwarves did 'express'?

Sorry, that one isn't something I'm going to touch ... even with the upcoming
game...

> *Doc' was having fun here, but doesn't really want to look any stupider
> than usual...*

You mean *THAT* wasn't your normal look ;-P

-K
Message no. 3
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon@*******.com
Subject: Breeder definition (Steve Kenson, Jak Koke and Co. - pay attention!)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:07:08 PST
>docwagon@*******.com writes:
>
>> So let's settle this once and for all, shall we? Steve, Jak, Jon
Szeto,
>> Anders Swenson, K, even - anyone who's 'in the loop' - can you
confirm,
>> deny or find out whether or not any elves or dwarves did 'express'?
>
>Sorry, that one isn't something I'm going to touch ... even with the
upcoming
>game...

What...you wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot troll?

8-)

>> *Doc' was having fun here, but doesn't really want to look any
stupider
>> than usual...*
>
>You mean *THAT* wasn't your normal look ;-P
>
>-K

Hey, K, I said stupidER.

*"Look, Ma! I can look like K!!"

Doc' does an impression of a monkey's butt sucking a lemon.*

Doc'

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Message no. 4
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Breeder definition (Steve Kenson, Jak Koke and Co. - pay attention!)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:10:40 EST
In a message dated 2/19/1999 12:09:44 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
docwagon@*******.com writes:

> >Sorry, that one isn't something I'm going to touch ... even with the
> upcoming
> >game...
>
> What...you wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot troll?
> 8-)

Funny you should mention troll....

> >> *Doc' was having fun here, but doesn't really want to look any
> stupider
> >> than usual...*
> >
> >You mean *THAT* wasn't your normal look ;-P
> >-K
>
> Hey, K, I said stupidER.
> *"Look, Ma! I can look like K!!"
> Doc' does an impression of a monkey's butt sucking a lemon.*
> Doc'

Ah, I see good sirah, tis war then is it? (lots of trumpets blaring (*badly*)
and the sounds of many "men-at-arms" gathering their arms (they were rejects
from the Monty Python shows) so as to be sent (remember, no legs! ;) off to
war)

-K (who mistakes Doc' for the Black Knight from MPatHG and ships 'im off to
WAR!)
Message no. 5
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon@*******.com
Subject: Breeder definition (Steve Kenson, Jak Koke and Co. - pay attention!)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:34:08 PST
>docwagon@*******.com writes:
>
>> >Sorry, that one isn't something I'm going to touch ... even with the
>> upcoming
>> >game...
>>
>> What...you wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot troll?
>> 8-)
>
>Funny you should mention troll....
>
>> >> *Doc' was having fun here, but doesn't really want to look any
>> stupider
>> >> than usual...*
>> >
>> >You mean *THAT* wasn't your normal look ;-P
>> >-K
>>
>> Hey, K, I said stupidER.
>> *"Look, Ma! I can look like K!!"
>> Doc' does an impression of a monkey's butt sucking a lemon.*
>> Doc'
>
>Ah, I see good sirah, tis war then is it? (lots of trumpets blaring
(*badly*)
>and the sounds of many "men-at-arms" gathering their arms (they were
rejects
>from the Monty Python shows) so as to be sent (remember, no legs! ;)
off to
>war)
>
>-K (who mistakes Doc' for the Black Knight from MPatHG and ships 'im
off to
>WAR!)

*Doc' takes the Crown of Silliness back from Patrick and crowns K the
new King of Silliness.*

Doc'

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Message no. 6
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: Breeder definition (Steve Kenson, Jak Koke and Co. - pay attention!)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:43:24 -0600
From: Rand Ratinac
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 1999 11:34 PM

>*Doc' takes the Crown of Silliness back from Patrick and crowns K the
>new King of Silliness.*

Thank God. The thorns were starting to get a mite uncomfortable there....

--
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El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.
Message no. 7
From: Wyrmy elfman@******.com
Subject: Breeder definition (Steve Kenson, Jak Koke and Co. - pay attention!)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 01:33:08 -0600
>
> *Doc' takes the Crown of Silliness back from Patrick and crowns K the
> new King of Silliness.*

Well, for once, I'll agree with you!(Hops off t ojoin the Men at arms in
their line)
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