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Message no. 1
From: Mark Steedman <RSMS@******.EEE.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Bugs and Horrors.. (SPOILER WARNING !!)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 11:38:31 GMT
Ok don't know if anyones comment on this one before but here goes on
the guess work about horrors in SR. This is based purely on stuff in
the public domain, i have on Kage / FASA links so you should be able
to find all the base info.

This could be a real spoiler if i am correct so only read if you are
prepared to find out about some nasty guesswork.

Takes out security contract with Night Errant
Calls fire brigade (to tidy up after above)
engages shield of elemental water, well if Thera could have an
elemental shield in the fourth age why can't i have one now (see ED
for info on Thera)

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For those who have read or played HB the horrors are on thier way.
The flyer story 'voices from the past' mentions that they will be
2000 years early and are already building their bridge. How a few
things to get you thinking, in ED the sequence of astral trouble
(note these are all different things) is
1) wraithlike spirits that drive peolpe to violence against each other
yep the 'wraith' out of paranormal europe, note the last two shadow
comments that these things are most common about the Aztechnology
pyramid in Aztlan and Harlequins warning that these things are the
future if we don't stem the tide now!

2) insect like meshes of human / bug
yep called 'invae' in ED where they also took over a cult, everyones
'favouite' insect spirts, ah the UB!!

3) The horrors,
called 'the enemy' by Harlequin, does it matter there are millions
of the things and they come in sizes up to 'hunter of great dragons'.

The problems start when you realise that some are already on this
side, i am told a critter out of one of the books matches an ED
horror, yep on the physical planet Earth!

To be here already though someone must be calling them across, now
note where all the wraiths are, the fact that Mr bad guy from
Harlequins back (the one who has been calling the horrors for that -
note the things players get to fight are actually horror constructs
not horrors (see ED for the difference)) speaks in the old Aztec
toungue for centering, could he be from Aztlan??????

Yes its worse cause the only folks who go in a certain Aztechnology
pyramid where the wraiths are work for said corp, FASA don't say it
but the evidence here suggests that the corporation are behind this!
trying to bring the horrors accross!

so we have
Universal Brotherhood : bugs are us
Aztechnology : horrors are us !!!!!!

it also fits with 'Zeb Wanderly' file as why should Aztechnology know
about the bugs, simple the horrors don't want to arrive to find the
bugs entrenched with all of planet earths defences at thier disposal
they want to arrive and go eat everything, terrorise it e.t.c.
(depend on horror type).

well do you fancy facing these things,

There is a FASA request on this in HB i.e. asking do you want to see
the things loose in SR, that is presumably the world change that
could occur.
Note that even Harlequin reckons that with the magic level as it is
only the great dragons could hide from them, as to those wondering
how they could get across now read HB, then quiver!


Ok a pile of guesswork, i do know of one other GM that came
independantly to the same conclusions from the hints that are loose,
if there are any answers i suspect the Aztlan Sourcebook will be the
place to look, don't know though.

Happy hiding, constuctive comments appreciated, defenses activated
against any others!

Mark
Message no. 2
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Bugs and Horrors.. (SPOILER WARNING !!)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 09:28:03 +0200
>Ok don't know if anyones comment on this one before but here goes on
>the guess work about horrors in SR.

On the ED web page (I think) is a file with the crossovers between ED and SR.

>3) The horrors,
> called 'the enemy' by Harlequin, does it matter there are millions
>of the things and they come in sizes up to 'hunter of great dragons'.

What _would_ Verjigorm lok like in SR stats anyway? *evil GM thoughts coming up*

>side, i am told a critter out of one of the books matches an ED
>horror, yep on the physical planet Earth!

Which one? I might just throw it at my players in both SR and ED...

>To be here already though someone must be calling them across, now
>note where all the wraiths are, the fact that Mr bad guy from
>Harlequins back [snip] speaks in the old Aztec
>toungue for centering, could he be from Aztlan??????

Nooo, of course not. All the street kids speak Spanish, wraiths swarm around
the Aztechnology pyramid, and that guy speaks Aztec. Where did you ever get
the idea that the Azzies are hanging with the Horrors? :)

>it also fits with 'Zeb Wanderly' file

Which file? Is that from UB?

>if there are any answers i suspect the Aztlan Sourcebook will be the
>place to look, don't know though.

Don't count on it. If it's in the same style as the other SR sourcebooks
it's a load of guesswork for the GM to filter the truth out of... I doubt
you'll find someone in that book saying "I can prove Aztechnology is
summoning horrible creatures from an unknown metaplane." It'll be more like
"What is going on at Aztechnology?" "Knowing that's bad for your
health."


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Message no. 3
From: P Ward <P.Ward@**.CF.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Bugs and Horrors.. (SPOILER WARNING !!)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 09:09:41 BST
Gurth Asked

> >it also fits with 'Zeb Wanderly' file
>
> Which file? Is that from UB?

Yeah, the reporteres go round all the corps, asking about their involvement
with the UB.

Aztech execes who join the UB get purged _really_ fast, and then AZT won't
talk about it/them.

I figure they knew the bugs were here already, due to Horror-info, and
were scared that the bugs would try to stop AZT summoning the horrors
(old aztech gods) by eating AZT execs. After all, there are horrors
who eat bugs (So I understand) so the bug's defence mechanism kicks in,
and they swarm AZT till they go under.

So in true-to-form AZT style, they dissapeared the execs, and clammed up
about the whole incident.

Phil (Renegade)
Message no. 4
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Bugs and Horrors.. (SPOILER WARNING !!)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 1995 19:09:01 +0930
Gurth wrote:
> >it also fits with 'Zeb Wanderly' file
>
> Which file? Is that from UB?
>
Yeah... it's that novella that comes with the UB module.

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