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Message no. 1
From: Edward Paul <doyle@******.EDU>
Subject: Bug vulnerabilities
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:45:36 -1000
Where did I read that the Bug spirits are a little vulnerable to elemental
attacks? Or was it a figment of my imagination?

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Edward Paul University of Hawaii at Manoa
E-Mail: doyle@******.edu
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Message no. 2
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Bug vulnerabilities
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:47:00 +0000
On 20 Oct 96 at 15:45, Edward Paul wrote:
> Where did I read that the Bug spirits are a little vulnerable to elemental
> attacks? Or was it a figment of my imagination?
You read it on SRII, p. 218 ("Immunity To Normal Weapons")
Message no. 3
From: IEngelmann@***.COM
Subject: Re: Bug vulnerabilities
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:34:51 -0400
>Where did I read that the Bug spirits are a little vulnerable to elemental
>attacks? Or was it a figment of my imagination?
>
>
Who knows?
Why does the sun come up?
Or are the stars just pinholes in the curtain of night?
Who knows?

Ehmm...sorry, it came over me...hmm, dunno, don't have my books around,
sorry. :)

Ilja-who-thinks-that-bugs-should-pay-taxes-too.
Message no. 4
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Bug vulnerabilities
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:49:30 -0700
IEngelmann@***.COM wrote:
> Who knows?
> Why does the sun come up?


Actually the sun doesn't move in a manner that would allow it to "come up" it
is the rotation of the Earth that presents the illusion of the Sun "coming
up"

> Or are the stars just pinholes in the curtain of night?


No..They are stars similar in nature to our Sun..

> Who knows?


Well, I have a pretty good idea..
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Message no. 5
From: John Coughlin <john.coughlin@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Bug vulnerabilities
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:58:43 -0700
Hi! Very sorry to do this (as I promised myself never to do this), but my
email crashed and I lost this info. COuld anyone privately email me and
tell me how to get off SHADOWRN, SHADOWGM, and NERPS. I need to take some
time off and dont know how to get off these lists since my 'saved box'
crashed taking all that precious info with it. Sorry for the
inconvenience and I appreciate any responses anyone can give me. Thanks
again. John
Message no. 6
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Bug vulnerabilities
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:01:14 +0100
IEngelmann@***.COM said on 19:34/21 Oct 96...

> >Where did I read that the Bug spirits are a little vulnerable to elemental
> >attacks? Or was it a figment of my imagination?
> >
> Who knows?
> Why does the sun come up?
> Or are the stars just pinholes in the curtain of night?
> Who knows?

I don't think they're vulnerable to elemental attacks, unless by that you
mean attacks by elemental spirits. Against those, they don't get their
immunity to normal weapons, which does make them more vulnerable.
Although, looking at it a bit closer, a one-on-one between an elemental
and a true form bug of equal Force probably gives big advantages to the
bug, with the armor it gets anyway.

> Ilja-who-thinks-that-bugs-should-pay-taxes-too.

But who's going to make them? :)

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Message no. 7
From: Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Bug vulnerabilities
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:12:50 GMT
Gurth writes

adding further comments
> > >Where did I read that the Bug spirits are a little vulnerable to elemental
> > >attacks? Or was it a figment of my imagination?
> > >
> I don't think they're vulnerable to elemental attacks, unless by that you
> mean attacks by elemental spirits.
i assume the same, or he might mean spells as well. From bitter
experience though if the bugs got enough force to be worth your
attention (ie it won't die of anything your average PC aims at it,
becasue its about force 1) have sufficient ordinary armour to need
2's to stage the attack down, (considering likely force of bug and
attacking spirt or spell)
On flesh forms well it works just as well as the attacks do on a
tough Sammie, wearing the same armour, ok force five flesh forms in
sec armour are tough (but then FASA meant them to be :) )

> Against those, they don't get their
> immunity to normal weapons, which does make them more vulnerable.
> Although, looking at it a bit closer, a one-on-one between an elemental
> and a true form bug of equal Force probably gives big advantages to the
> bug, with the armor it gets anyway.
>
Yeah, then you note the Reac = skill = force* (probably 2), poor poor
spirit, cause its going to get nibbled by the bug. Ok if you can find
a spirit with twice the bugs force this might work.


> > Ilja-who-thinks-that-bugs-should- pay- taxes- too. >

> But who's going to make them? :)
the Enemy ? :)

Mark
Message no. 8
From: Marty <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Bug vulnerabilities
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:30:11 +1000
> > I don't think they're vulnerable to elemental attacks, unless by that you
> > mean attacks by elemental spirits.
> i assume the same, or he might mean spells as well. From bitter
> experience though if the bugs got enough force to be worth your
> attention (ie it won't die of anything your average PC aims at it,
> becasue its about force 1) have sufficient ordinary armour to need
> 2's to stage the attack down, (considering likely force of bug and
> attacking spirt or spell)
> On flesh forms well it works just as well as the attacks do on a
> tough Sammie, wearing the same armour, ok force five flesh forms in
> sec armour are tough (but then FASA meant them to be :) )
>
Yeah, but one mage with a willpower targeted spell can ruin you whole
cunning and devious plan.
Message no. 9
From: Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Bug vulnerabilities
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:12:16 GMT
Marty writes

> > On flesh forms well it works just as well as the attacks do on a
> > tough Sammie, wearing the same armour, ok force five flesh forms in
> > sec armour are tough (but then FASA meant them to be :) )
> >
> Yeah, but one mage with a willpower targeted spell can ruin you whole
> cunning and devious plan.
>
Thats what they thought :)

But when the bug has 'hive queens protection : ALL mana spells' life
really does get fun.
Target 10 (queens willpower)
it rolls 2 its willpower
+ 10 queen
+ 5 threat
+ 6 magic pool of the insect shaman that was hanging about
you get the idea :)

incomming force 6 manabolt, fizzle fut, psst...... they weren't very
happy :)
Then the rigger drove up with the full auto LMG, '17D mr Bug' ! Ha!
SPLAT.
By this stage the cavalry was needed and the bugs had made a point

Mark

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