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Message no. 1
From: Mister Incognito misterincognito@*******.com
Subject: Burst Encryption Question
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 10:43:29 GMT
With Tzeentch bringing up that secure phone on another thread, it got me
thinkling about burst encryption security for transmissions. Does anyone
know if FASA have covered this or if there are any decent rules out on the
net to cover this?

My knowledge of this is *very* small so use idiot talk to explain it if your
gonna reply. ;) Here's my basic understanding of the system.
You take the message you want to send - say it's just over two minutes long
- and record it. You then encrypt the message as normal. You then take the
normal speed recording of the message and speed it up a lot so the length of
the message is reduced to only a couple of seconds long. You then send the
message. The receiver records the message, slows it down so that it's back
to its original normal speed length, decrypts and then listens to it. Even
though you can't talk directly and have to have a relay chat, the main
advantage is in signal security as with only transmitting for a couple of
seconds, there's less chance of the comms being detected and the tansmitter
being triangulated. Think that's the basics.

Reasons for asking is that most of the places we're trying to get into are
fairly high security and if they detect large amounts of encrypted radio
traffic at three in the morning they get a bit sus. This'd be good for large
group wide broadcasts for everyone to hear or see e.g. site maps, pictures
or just long messages.

Cheers.
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Message no. 2
From: Sebastian Wiers m0ng005e@*****.com
Subject: Burst Encryption Question
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:57:30 -0500
:My knowledge of this is *very* small so use idiot talk to explain it if
your
:gonna reply. ;) Here's my basic understanding of the system.
:You take the message you want to send - say it's just over two minutes long
:- and record it. You then encrypt the message as normal. You then take the
:normal speed recording of the message and speed it up a lot so the length
of
:the message is reduced to only a couple of seconds long. You then send the
:message. The receiver records the message, slows it down so that it's back
:to its original normal speed length, decrypts and then listens to it.

Do-able, but kinda rube-golbergian. If you have high speed wireless
data transmission, just send a compressed and encrypted file of your
message. Since voice doesn't take up much data (1MP per minute, and thats
high quality), your encrypted transmission would be much shorter than the
actual message.
What, FASA doesn't have rules for high speed wireless data transmission?
Hmm, I'll get back to you in about 10 days...

:Reasons for asking is that most of the places we're trying to get into are
:fairly high security and if they detect large amounts of encrypted radio
:traffic at three in the morning they get a bit sus. This'd be good for
large
:group wide broadcasts for everyone to hear or see e.g. site maps, pictures
:or just long messages.

Yep- wireless data transmission is the way to go.


Mongoose

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