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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrn@*********.com)
Subject: Caltrops vs. Vehicles
Date: Thu Mar 22 14:30:01 2001
Hey everybody, I've been working on this concept for a kind of combat biker,
and was thinking one really cool idea would be for him to be carrying
caltrops that he could throw behind him if he's being chased on his bike. I
was wondering what would the effects of a caltrops be on a vehicle? Would you
just rule that if they don't succeed the quickness test then the tires get
blown and they have to make a crash test? That seems to be the way I would
think to handle it...

(also I'd imagine if the character botches throwing the caltrops they could
actually blow his OWN tires)
Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Simon and Fiona)
Subject: Caltrops vs. Vehicles
Date: Thu Mar 22 19:35:01 2001
-----Original Message-----
From: Sinabian@***.com <Sinabian@***.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:37 AM
Subject: Caltrops vs. Vehicles


>Hey everybody, I've been working on this concept for a kind of combat
biker,
>and was thinking one really cool idea would be for him to be carrying
>caltrops that he could throw behind him if he's being chased on his bike. I
>was wondering what would the effects of a caltrops be on a vehicle? Would
you
>just rule that if they don't succeed the quickness test then the tires get
>blown and they have to make a crash test? That seems to be the way I would
>think to handle it...
>
>(also I'd imagine if the character botches throwing the caltrops they could
>actually blow his OWN tires)
>

Sounds good to me. Though you'd of course have to take in to consideration
the armour/body of the tyres and if they're runflats or not. Caltrops are
one of the niftiest inventions known to man, and they've never been
superseded. If only their power could be used for good instead of evil.
Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Shiro BsquLadat)
Subject: Caltrops vs. Vehicles
Date: Fri Mar 23 02:45:00 2001
I would sudjest that if the character fails his
quickness check and falls on the caltrops,he should
get one automatic stress point for every turn that the
vehicle is not immobilized, even if he passes the
crash test.The logic is that the crash test prevents
the character from crashing with something but the
vehicle would still take damage because of the flat
tires.


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Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: Caltrops vs. Vehicles
Date: Fri Mar 23 03:00:01 2001
According to Sinabian@***.com, on Thu, 22 Mar 2001 the word on the street
was...

> Hey everybody, I've been working on this concept for a kind of combat biker,
> and was thinking one really cool idea would be for him to be carrying
> caltrops that he could throw behind him if he's being chased on his bike. I
> was wondering what would the effects of a caltrops be on a vehicle? Would you
> just rule that if they don't succeed the quickness test then the tires get
> blown and they have to make a crash test? That seems to be the way I would
> think to handle it...

You could let the character make an open Quickness test to throw the
caltrops, and let that set the TN for the opposing driver's test to avoid
them. I'd make that last one a vehicle skill test (defaulting to Reaction),
not Quickness, but other than that, I'd agree with you: fail the test and
immediately make another one (against the vehicle's Handling) to avoid
crashing. Should this second test succeed, IMHO one or more destroyed tires
is Moderate damage to the vehicle. (Not having tires won't stop a car from
moving; it'll just be harder to steer and not go as fast due to reduced
friction between wheel and road.)

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Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrn@*********.com)
Subject: Caltrops vs. Vehicles
Date: Fri Mar 23 18:05:01 2001
In a message dated 3/23/2001 12:49:22 AM Mountain Standard Time,
shirogr@*****.com writes:

> I would sudjest that if the character fails his
> quickness check and falls on the caltrops,he should
> get one automatic stress point for every turn that the
> vehicle is not immobilized, even if he passes the
> crash test.The logic is that the crash test prevents
> the character from crashing with something but the
> vehicle would still take damage because of the flat
> tires.


Very good call. Those caltrops would probably lodge in the tire and continue
to shred it the more the tire was driven on...on TOP of that I can tell you
from experience it REALLY frags up a tire to keep driving on it after you
blow it without fixing it. Not to mention the alignment and the axle. Perhaps
if you have the blowout, and continue to drive. Then don't get the car fixed
the car should suffer a +1 to the handling as well...?
Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Shiro BsquLadat)
Subject: Caltrops vs. Vehicles
Date: Wed Apr 4 16:35:03 2001
>
>
> Very good call. Those caltrops would probably lodge
> in the tire and continue
> to shred it the more the tire was driven on...on TOP
> of that I can tell you
> from experience it REALLY frags up a tire to keep
> driving on it after you
> blow it without fixing it. Not to mention the
> alignment and the axle. Perhaps
> if you have the blowout, and continue to drive. Then
> don't get the car fixed
> the car should suffer a +1 to the handling as
> well...?
>
Yes i think that would be apropriate.

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