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Message no. 1
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Caseless ammo question
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:25:38 +0100
According to Ronald James, on Monday 08 November 2004 22:32 the word on the
street was...

> Is there any difference (rules-wise) between regular ammo and
> caseless? I can't find anything, except for the rule that weapons
> can only fire one type or the other. There is no difference in
> cost or shots-per-clip.

It used to be that the two were different (see the rules in Fields of
Fire), but these days they are essentially nothing more than flavor.

> Now, in 3rd edition, he is apparently back down to 30 rounds.
> It's as though caseless technology has actually regressed in the
> last several years.

Only if you, like you did, need to convert the weapons back :) The simple
solution is to simply keep using the FOF rules -- it's not as if they are
incompatible with SR3 rules.

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Message no. 2
From: silently@*********.net (Ronald James)
Subject: Caseless ammo question
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:43:03 -0000
Hello, I have another question about converting my old 2nd
edition character to 3rd edition.

Is there any difference (rules-wise) between regular ammo and
caseless? I can't find anything, except for the rule that weapons
can only fire one type or the other. There is no difference in
cost or shots-per-clip.

One of the last things I did with 2nd edition was to upgrade my
character's weapons to caseless ammo. (Which was introduced
in Fields of Fire, I think?) Caseless-firing weapons and their
ammo were more expensive, but allowed extra bullets per clip.
For example his SCK 100 went from 30 to 36 rounds in a clip.

Now, in 3rd edition, he is apparently back down to 30 rounds.
It's as though caseless technology has actually regressed in the
last several years.

Is there any real point in differentiating between standard and
caseless ammo? If they cost the same, why not just say that
everyone has caseless?

Have I missed something in the rules? Thanks for any advice.

Ron
Message no. 3
From: tjlanza@************.com (Timothy J. Lanza)
Subject: Caseless ammo question
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:48:21 -0000
At 04:32 PM 11/8/2004, Ronald James wrote:

[Snip!]

>Is there any real point in differentiating between standard and
>caseless ammo? If they cost the same, why not just say that
>everyone has caseless?

The primary difference is really a role-playing consideration. You can't
field reload caseless magazines, but they don't leave brass that you have
to pick up.

Also, far as I know belt-fed weapons cannot be caseless. The propellant is
not solid enough to be part of the belt.

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