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Message no. 1
From: vocenoctum@****.com vocenoctum@****.com
Subject: CC (form fitting armor)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:24:00 -0400
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Rand
Ratinac?<docwagon101@*****.com> writes:
> 2. Form-fitting armour. I'd like a second opinion on
> how it works. It says in the CC that it's not subject
> to the rules for losing Combat Pool dice when layering
> armour. So does that mean when you layer form-fitting
> with other armour you ignore the form-fitting when
> calculating Combat Pool loss, but not when calculating
> Quickness penalties? i.e. Someone wearing Form-Fitting
> 3 and an armoured jacket has an armour rating of 7/3,
> an effective armour rating of 9/4 when calculating
> Quickness penalties and an effective armour rating of
> 5/3 when calculating Combat Pool loss. Is that correct?
>

More importanly, the line reads "Form fitting armor can be worn with
other armor but does not affect a character when calculaing penalties for
CP"

so, if my gnome otaku wears form-fitting-3 (4/1) which excede's his
quickness of 1, does that mean I don't lose any combat pool?
(remember, when layering, the additional penalty is the quickness-based
penalty, not the CP reduction, the CP reduction is based on the armor
itself)

While it may seem to be reading into things, the nature of the suit
(custom fit) makes sense to me...

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Message no. 2
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: CC (form fitting armor)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:47:13 -0700 (PDT)
> > 2. Form-fitting armour. I'd like a second opinion
> on
> > how it works. It says in the CC that it's not
> subject
> > to the rules for losing Combat Pool dice when
> layering
> > armour. So does that mean when you layer
> form-fitting
> > with other armour you ignore the form-fitting when
> > calculating Combat Pool loss, but not when
> calculating
> > Quickness penalties? i.e. Someone wearing
> Form-Fitting
> > 3 and an armoured jacket has an armour rating of
> 7/3,
> > an effective armour rating of 9/4 when calculating
> > Quickness penalties and an effective armour rating
> of
> > 5/3 when calculating Combat Pool loss. Is that
> correct?
> >
>
> More importanly, the line reads "Form fitting armor
> can be worn with
> other armor but does not affect a character when
> calculaing penalties for
> CP"
>
> so, if my gnome otaku wears form-fitting-3 (4/1)
> which excede's his
> quickness of 1, does that mean I don't lose any
> combat pool?
> (remember, when layering, the additional penalty is
> the quickness-based
> penalty, not the CP reduction, the CP reduction is
> based on the armor
> itself)
>
> While it may seem to be reading into things, the
> nature of the suit
> (custom fit) makes sense to me...
> Vocenoctum

You would think so, but the wording disagrees. You
forgot the "when layering armour" part at the start of
the quoted sentence. According to the wording, you can
lose CP dice for wearing form-fitting armour if it's
not layered with other armour. :)

====Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow, aka Doc'-booner)

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Message no. 3
From: vocenoctum@****.com vocenoctum@****.com
Subject: CC (form fitting armor)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:25:36 -0400
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Rand
Ratinac?<docwagon101@*****.com> writes:
> > More importanly, the line reads "Form fitting armor
> > can be worn with
> > other armor but does not affect a character when
> > calculaing penalties for
> > CP"
> >
> > so, if my gnome otaku wears form-fitting-3 (4/1)
> > which excede's his
> > quickness of 1, does that mean I don't lose any
> > combat pool?
> > (remember, when layering, the additional penalty is
> > the quickness-based
> > penalty, not the CP reduction, the CP reduction is
> > based on the armor
> > itself)
> >
> > While it may seem to be reading into things, the
> > nature of the suit
> > (custom fit) makes sense to me...
> > Vocenoctum
>
> You would think so, but the wording disagrees. You
> forgot the "when layering armour" part at the start of
> the quoted sentence. According to the wording, you can
> lose CP dice for wearing form-fitting armour if it's
> not layered with other armour. :)

well, thats what I'm sayinbg, it never says "when layering armor"
It says it can be layered
"Form fitting armor can be worn with other armor but does not affect a
character when calculaing penalties for CP"

seems kind of silly to throw more armor over the Form Fitting in order to
get rid of the CP penalty :-)
not that it matters, I have a combat pool of 10 dice, and a skill of 1...

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