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Message no. 1
From: William Monroe Ashe <wma6617@*******.tamu.edu>
Subject: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:19:37 -0500 (CDT)
As I recall the Russians got the idea from the israelis. The israelis
manufactured a working cell phone with a C-4 charge in it. They had a
secret agent swap out the real phone with the bomb phone. Then the
israelis just called him up on it. When they confirmed it was his
voice... Boom!
If you're gonna assassinate someone at least be clever about it.

I think that it would be easier to go this route than try to mess with
Doc Wagon.

Just my $0.02
Regards
Bill
Message no. 2
From: "John R. Wicker II" <jrwick00@********.uky.edu>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:42:58 -0400 (EDT)
At 03:19 PM 6/26/96 -0500, you wrote:
>As I recall the Russians got the idea from the israelis. The israelis
>manufactured a working cell phone with a C-4 charge in it. They had a
>secret agent swap out the real phone with the bomb phone. Then the
>israelis just called him up on it. When they confirmed it was his
>voice... Boom!
>If you're gonna assassinate someone at least be clever about it.

Yes, but in the world of 2057, the typical cell phone is going to be
attached to the wrist, and not in a pocket or briefcase somewhere. Yes, it
will be taken off from time to time, but it will make the process just a tad
bit more hairy...
Message no. 3
From: Hairy Smurf <ab130f92@*******.adelphi.edu>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:50:58 -0400 (EDT)
At 16:42 6/26/96 -0400, you wrote:
>At 03:19 PM 6/26/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>As I recall the Russians got the idea from the israelis. The israelis
>>manufactured a working cell phone with a C-4 charge in it. They had a
>>secret agent swap out the real phone with the bomb phone. Then the
>>israelis just called him up on it. When they confirmed it was his
>>voice... Boom!
>>If you're gonna assassinate someone at least be clever about it.
>
> Yes, but in the world of 2057, the typical cell phone is going to be
>attached to the wrist, and not in a pocket or briefcase somewhere. Yes, it
>will be taken off from time to time, but it will make the process just a tad
>bit more hairy...
>

Not too hard. Just make it a shaped charge out form the speaker. He seays
hello and gets a face full. It easy not hairy. Course hairy is a speciality
of mine. :)

Sasquatch

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Message no. 4
From: wilsonpj@******.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Peter)
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:39:22 -0600
Sasquatch wrote:

>At 16:42 6/26/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>At 03:19 PM 6/26/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>>As I recall the Russians got the idea from the israelis. The israelis
>>>manufactured a working cell phone with a C-4 charge in it. They had a
>>>secret agent swap out the real phone with the bomb phone. Then the
>>>israelis just called him up on it. When they confirmed it was his
>>>voice... Boom!
>>>If you're gonna assassinate someone at least be clever about it.
>>
>> Yes, but in the world of 2057, the typical cell phone is going to be
>>attached to the wrist, and not in a pocket or briefcase somewhere. Yes, it
>>will be taken off from time to time, but it will make the process just a tad
>>bit more hairy...
>>
>
>Not too hard. Just make it a shaped charge out form the speaker. He seays
>hello and gets a face full. It easy not hairy. Course hairy is a speciality
>of mine. :)
>

No, you have missunderstood. The problem is not in making the bomb. The real problem is
in making the switch so that the target is now wearing _your_ bomb on _his_ wrist.

Piatro
Message no. 5
From: Hairy Smurf <ab130f92@*******.adelphi.edu>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 02:07:56 -0400 (EDT)
At 23:39 6/26/96 -0600, you wrote:
>Sasquatch wrote:
>
>>At 16:42 6/26/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>>At 03:19 PM 6/26/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>As I recall the Russians got the idea from the israelis. The israelis
>>>>manufactured a working cell phone with a C-4 charge in it. They had a
>>>>secret agent swap out the real phone with the bomb phone. Then the
>>>>israelis just called him up on it. When they confirmed it was his
>>>>voice... Boom!
>>>>If you're gonna assassinate someone at least be clever about it.
>>>
>>> Yes, but in the world of 2057, the typical cell phone is going to be
>>>attached to the wrist, and not in a pocket or briefcase somewhere. Yes, it
>>>will be taken off from time to time, but it will make the process just a tad
>>>bit more hairy...
>>>
>>
>>Not too hard. Just make it a shaped charge out form the speaker. He seays
>>hello and gets a face full. It easy not hairy. Course hairy is a speciality
>>of mine. :)
>>
>
>No, you have missunderstood. The problem is not in making the bomb. The
real problem is in making the switch so that the target is now wearing
_your_ bomb on _his_ wrist.
>
>Piatro
>

He's gotta sleep right? Even better, bust it for him. Have it get knocked
and need fixing. Find out where he'll get it fixed and break in and really
fix it after the real repairman is done. Sounds as simple as runs get to me.

Sasquatch

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Message no. 6
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:42:05 +0100
Peter said on 23:39/26 Jun 96...

> No, you have missunderstood. The problem is not in making the bomb.
> The real problem is in making the switch so that the target is now
> wearing _your_ bomb on _his_ wrist.

Put a sensor in the back that registers whether or not it appears to be
pressed against the wrist: a button with a thermometer in it, for example
-- if the button is pressed *and* it registers a temperature of about 37
degrees you can assume your target is wearing the phone. That, or he's
accidentally pressing it with his finger :)

Anyway, if that's the case then make it send some kind of special
(invisible+inaudible to (meta)humans) signal through the line whenever
he's making a call, and call him up. If the signal's present, blow the
thing; if not, say you got a wrong number or something.

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Message no. 7
From: mbroadwa@*******.glenayre.com (Mike Broadwater)
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:54:33 -0500
>He's gotta sleep right? Even better, bust it for him. Have it get knocked
>and need fixing. Find out where he'll get it fixed and break in and really
>fix it after the real repairman is done. Sounds as simple as runs get to me.
>
>Sasquatch

But if your in their house at night, taking off their watch, why don't you
just kill him then? It would be no more obvious than if their wrist and
most of their face blew up. If you want to kill someone, and it can look
like an assassination, then just worry about getting it done and getting
away, not how much style is involved. If you can hit them with a missile,
that's great, if you can replace their cell phone cause it's easier than
shooting them, thats good too. But why break into your targets home, walk
up next to him, muck with his wrist phone, and then leave? A silenced
pistol or an injection of fast acting poison would allow you to get away
just as easily.

Mike Broadwater
"Insanity in sanity"
http://www.olemiss.edu/~neon
Message no. 8
From: dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:06:46 -0600 (MDT)
Mike Broadwater wrote:
|
|>He's gotta sleep right? Even better, bust it for him. Have it get knocked
|>and need fixing. Find out where he'll get it fixed and break in and really
|>fix it after the real repairman is done. Sounds as simple as runs get to me.
|>
|>Sasquatch
|
|But if your in their house at night, taking off their watch, why don't you
|just kill him then? It would be no more obvious than if their wrist and
|most of their face blew up. If you want to kill someone, and it can look
|like an assassination, then just worry about getting it done and getting
|away, not how much style is involved. If you can hit them with a missile,
|that's great, if you can replace their cell phone cause it's easier than
|shooting them, thats good too. But why break into your targets home, walk
|up next to him, muck with his wrist phone, and then leave? A silenced
|pistol or an injection of fast acting poison would allow you to get away
|just as easily.

The only reason that I can think of is if the guy has a serious Doc Wagon
contract. You kill him, his implanted beeper goes off, and security is on
the way. It actually might be less hassle to break in and mess with his
phone and kill him from a distance then kill him in his sleep and have to
worry about getting away.

-David

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Message no. 9
From: "Sascha Pabst" <Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:38:14 +0200
On 26.06.96, John R. Wicker II wrote about "Re: Cell Phone Assassinations":
[bomb in cell phone]
> Yes, but in the world of 2057, the typical cell phone is going to be
> attached to the wrist, and not in a pocket or briefcase somewhere. Yes, it
> will be taken off from time to time, but it will make the process just a tad
> bit more hairy...
But when the person is responding to a call, you can bet the phone is near his
face/head. Exactly where you will want it.... :-)

Sascha

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Message no. 10
From: wilsonpj@******.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Peter)
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 12:08:19 -0600
For an easy assasination, out the bomb in the phones at the targets
favorite bar. Then you don't need to worry about getting to his
personal cell phone. This would even work with a pay phone. ("I'll
call you at one of the phones oustide Dante's at 10:15. Ddon;t be
late.")

I like the idea of the bomb in the wrist phone as a retalitory weapon
for a fixer. If you screw with him he gives ou a call and blows half
your face off. After it happens once, characters will examine new
equipment _very_ carefully.

Piatro
Message no. 11
From: dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 11:18:52 -0600 (MDT)
Peter wrote:
|
|For an easy assasination, out the bomb in the phones at the targets
|favorite bar. Then you don't need to worry about getting to his
|personal cell phone. This would even work with a pay phone. ("I'll
|call you at one of the phones oustide Dante's at 10:15. Ddon;t be
|late.")
|
|I like the idea of the bomb in the wrist phone as a retalitory weapon
|for a fixer. If you screw with him he gives ou a call and blows half
|your face off. After it happens once, characters will examine new
|equipment _very_ carefully.

Or better yet, you're out on a run and you get an incoming call on all
your grenades. (ring) "What the he<booom!>" (after sifting through the
wreckage) "Hey, look at this. All of his grenades were wired for remote
detonation and used old cellular phone chips for the circuitry." (after
calling fixer) Fixer:"Oh, I am sooo sorry. If I had known, I never would
have sold them to you. That's what I get for buying equipment from a
third world country. Please give my condolences to his family and allow
me to pay for the funeral expenses."

-David

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Message no. 12
From: Hairy Smurf <ab130f92@*******.adelphi.edu>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:20:06 -0400 (EDT)
At 08:54 6/27/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>He's gotta sleep right? Even better, bust it for him. Have it get knocked
>>and need fixing. Find out where he'll get it fixed and break in and really
>>fix it after the real repairman is done. Sounds as simple as runs get to me.
>>
>>Sasquatch
>
>But if your in their house at night, taking off their watch, why don't you
>just kill him then? It would be no more obvious than if their wrist and
>most of their face blew up. If you want to kill someone, and it can look
>like an assassination, then just worry about getting it done and getting
>away, not how much style is involved. If you can hit them with a missile,
>that's great, if you can replace their cell phone cause it's easier than
>shooting them, thats good too. But why break into your targets home, walk
>up next to him, muck with his wrist phone, and then leave? A silenced
>pistol or an injection of fast acting poison would allow you to get away
>just as easily.
>
>Mike Broadwater
>"Insanity in sanity"
>http://www.olemiss.edu/~neon
>

Who said the team was in his house? The team is in the watchsmith's store.
As for why you would want to do it in such a flashy way is easy. It is going
to get more publicity then a simple silenced shot in bed. Its a better
example of the team's ability and prowess. Makes other possible targets a
little more paranoid and more willing to be helpful.

Sasquatch

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Message no. 13
From: "Robert J. Waters" <rjwate01@*****.louisville.edu>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 19:00:30 -0500 (EDT)
> But if your in their house at night, taking off their watch, why don't you
> just kill him then? It would be no more obvious than if their wrist and
> most of their face blew up. If you want to kill someone, and it can look
> like an assassination, then just worry about getting it done and getting
> away, not how much style is involved. If you can hit them with a missile,
> that's great, if you can replace their cell phone cause it's easier than
> shooting them, thats good too. But why break into your targets home, walk
> up next to him, muck with his wrist phone, and then leave? A silenced
> pistol or an injection of fast acting poison would allow you to get away
> just as easily.

I have to agree since what causes things to go wrong and mess it is making it
more complicated than needed. If that is the way the Johnson wants it done
then fine, but the job of the runners is to get the job with as little frills
and fanciness. Save the inventiveness for doing the job the way it should and
not in figuring fancier and fancier ways to do the job.

--
Luc AKA BobW

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BUT THE CORPSE STILL HAS THE FLOOR!
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Message no. 14
From: Hairy Smurf <ab130f92@*******.adelphi.edu>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 19:08:02 -0400 (EDT)
At 19:00 6/27/96 -0500, you wrote:
[SNIP]
>I have to agree since what causes things to go wrong and mess it is making it
>more complicated than needed. If that is the way the Johnson wants it done
>then fine, but the job of the runners is to get the job with as little frills
>and fanciness. Save the inventiveness for doing the job the way it should and
>not in figuring fancier and fancier ways to do the job.
>
>--
>Luc AKA BobW

Agreed simple is better but sometimes IMO sheer intimidation factor is worth
the extra effort. That and sheer paranoia. :)

Sasquatch

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Message no. 15
From: mbroadwa@*******.glenayre.com (Mike Broadwater)
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:36:52 -0500
>Agreed simple is better but sometimes IMO sheer intimidation factor is worth
>the extra effort. That and sheer paranoia. :)
>
>Sasquatch

But who are you intimidating? Your target? If you did your job right,
they're dead. You're next target? They shouldn't know it was you. And if
you admit to it, you not only admitted to committing murder, but who's going
to believe you

"Remember that guy who's cell phone exploded? Well, that was us, and we're
coming after you next!"
"Thank you, this message has been recorded and is being forwarded to the
police."
-or-
"Yeah, you and about 10 other people claimed to do it. Go away you poser."

I'd be more paranoid of the guy who blew up my car by shooting it with a
missile, than the one who broke into a high security area to plant a bomb.
One can be caught and taken care of, the other, you can't exactly negotiate
with.

Mike Broadwater
"Insanity in sanity"
http://www.olemiss.edu/~neon
Message no. 16
From: Brian Johnson <john0375@****.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 17:50:03 -0500 (CDT)
Corrections are: [ ]

> As I recall the Russians got the idea from the israelis. The israelis
> manufactured a working cell phone with a C-4 charge in it. They had a
> secret agent [PLO operative] swap out [give him] the real phone with the
bomb phone [ the phone, which he needed]. Then the
> israelis just called him up on it. When they confirmed it was his
[ he used the phone, blowing himself up]


The individual referred to is Carlos 'the engineer' (name uncertain).
I thought the nickname was really cool, until I found out the reason they
called him that is he had a degree in EE (from an Israeli U?)

Who was killed about nine? months ago. The PLO helped them catch the guy
and set him up in the interest of peace. Then They [Isreal] killed Rabin,
and elected Netnayahu. So It's basically a one time deal.

He was a bomb maker working for a terrorist group, possible Hammas (I
don't recall).

I've included this information for those of you with Web Browsers who
want to find the original articles.
Message no. 17
From: wilsonpj@******.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Peter)
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 22:46:15 -0600
Mike Broadwater wrote:

>
>But who are you intimidating? Your target? If you did your job right,
>they're dead. You're next target? They shouldn't know it was you. And if
>you admit to it, you not only admitted to committing murder, but who's going
>to believe you
>
>"Remember that guy who's cell phone exploded? Well, that was us, and we're
>coming after you next!"
>"Thank you, this message has been recorded and is being forwarded to the
>police."
>-or-
>"Yeah, you and about 10 other people claimed to do it. Go away you poser."
>
>I'd be more paranoid of the guy who blew up my car by shooting it with a
>missile, than the one who broke into a high security area to plant a bomb.
>One can be caught and taken care of, the other, you can't exactly negotiate
>with.
>

The public won't know who carried out the hit, but for something this flashy, is was
definitely sending a message, usually fron the organization that called in the hit.



An example:

Billy crosses the local Mafia Boss.

Mafia Boss (through underlings or directly) hires runners to make a _Public Example_ of
Billy.

Billy goes BOOM!

Six months later Mafia Boss wants to make another exampe, calls on runners again.




This could be a Johnon contracting directly with the runners, or a Fixer who is known for
his connections to the team that blew Billy's head off.

Piatro
Message no. 18
From: "Robert J. Waters" <rjwate01@*****.louisville.edu>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 05:13:31 -0500 (EDT)
> The public won't know who carried out the hit, but for something this flashy, is was
definitely sending a message, usually fron the organization that called in the hit.
>
> An example:
>
> Billy crosses the local Mafia Boss.
>
> Mafia Boss (through underlings or directly) hires runners to make a _Public Example_
of Billy.

Typically hitmen are hired for wetwork and runners for infiltration/espionage

> Billy goes BOOM!
>
> Six months later Mafia Boss wants to make another exampe, calls on runners again.
>
> This could be a Johnon contracting directly with the runners, or a Fixer who is known
for his connections to the team that blew Billy's head off.

And if that fixer is "known" for that then Billy's associates might show up
one day to update on the techilogical advances that have been acheived in the
field of torture.

--
Luc AKA BobW

EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME!
BUT THE CORPSE STILL HAS THE FLOOR!
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Message no. 19
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowrn@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 17:11:24 +0100
In message <9606271406.AA11037@******>, David Buehrer
<dbuehrer@****.org> writes
>
>The only reason that I can think of is if the guy has a serious Doc Wagon
>contract. You kill him, his implanted beeper goes off, and security is on
>the way. It actually might be less hassle to break in and mess with his
>phone and kill him from a distance then kill him in his sleep and have to
>worry about getting away.

You've got this much access to him, leave a suitcase with ten kilos of
C-12 under his bed, leave, drive away. Ten minutes later, he and his
bedroom are a fine vapour, you're ten miles away on the Interstate.

The more complicated you get, the more likely something is to go wrong.
Remember, the bad guys always come up with elaborate ways to kill James
Bond, and it never works :)

--
"There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy."
Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
Message no. 20
From: dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:52:59 -0600 (MDT)
Paul J. Adam wrote:
|
|In message <9606271406.AA11037@******>, David Buehrer
|<dbuehrer@****.org> writes
|>
|>The only reason that I can think of is if the guy has a serious Doc Wagon
|>contract. You kill him, his implanted beeper goes off, and security is on
|>the way. It actually might be less hassle to break in and mess with his
|>phone and kill him from a distance then kill him in his sleep and have to
|>worry about getting away.
|
|You've got this much access to him, leave a suitcase with ten kilos of
|C-12 under his bed, leave, drive away. Ten minutes later, he and his
|bedroom are a fine vapour, you're ten miles away on the Interstate.
|
|The more complicated you get, the more likely something is to go wrong.
|Remember, the bad guys always come up with elaborate ways to kill James
|Bond, and it never works :)

I didn't come up with the original idea. I was just kibitzing (a kipitz is
a spam with content :).

If it was me I would take a drone, pack it with exposives, fly it up to his
bedroom window while he's asleep, and... If his bedroom doesn't have a
window just wait till he's outside or in his car or whatever.

Hmmm... You know, a flying remote bomb isn't a bad idea. Sure, it's
expensive. But accuracy would make it worth it.

"What did it look like?"
"It looked just like a four foot tall frag grenade with a helicopter rotor
on top."

-David

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Message no. 21
From: Luc <rjwate01@*****.louisville.edu>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:45:54 -0500 (EDT)
> Hmmm... You know, a flying remote bomb isn't a bad idea. Sure, it's
> expensive. But accuracy would make it worth it.

use a land shark. I think it is from Lone Star manual. A remote controlled
drone that goes under offending vehicles, attatches, and then detonates
blowing all but the heaviest vehicles at least off the road if not into pieces.

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Message no. 22
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:49:57 +0100
Paul J. Adam said on 17:11/27 Jun 96...

> The more complicated you get, the more likely something is to go wrong.
> Remember, the bad guys always come up with elaborate ways to kill James
> Bond, and it never works :)

Are you sure that's a good analogy? :)

It might be if you want to scare your players without killing their
characters... Have them tied up near the sea's edge or some other of those
Bond-villain tricks, instead of simply putting a 9 mm between their eyes
:)

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Message no. 23
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowrn@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:08:24 +0100
In message <199607020949.LAA07144@**********.xs4all.nl>, Gurth
<gurth@******.nl> writes
>Paul J. Adam said on 17:11/27 Jun 96...
>
>> The more complicated you get, the more likely something is to go wrong.
>> Remember, the bad guys always come up with elaborate ways to kill James
>> Bond, and it never works :)
>
>Are you sure that's a good analogy? :)

If you're the one standing there saying "And now, Mr Bond, since you are
about to die, I will show you where the secret self destruct mechanism
for my entire base is..." :) My bad guys tend to be smart when it comes
to their own survival...

>It might be if you want to scare your players without killing their
>characters... Have them tied up near the sea's edge or some other of those
>Bond-villain tricks, instead of simply putting a 9 mm between their eyes
>:)

I use the 'chief and most deadly bad guy says "Kill them" and leaves, so
the runners only have a half-dozen thugs...' gambit from time to time if
they deserve a chance to escape, or I stuck them with getting captured
(trust means your players co-operate a little for the sake of drama,
knowing they'll have a shot at escape later).

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Message no. 24
From: wilsonpj@******.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Peter)
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 02:35:30 -0600
Luc wrote:
>
>use a land shark. I think it is from Lone Star manual. A remote controlled
>drone that goes under offending vehicles, attatches, and then detonates
>blowing all but the heaviest vehicles at least off the road if not into pieces.
>

Whew! I thought that was going to be a SNL refference.

Piatro
Message no. 25
From: Luc <rjwate01@*****.louisville.edu>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 04:07:27 -0500 (EDT)
> >use a land shark. I think it is from Lone Star manual. A remote controlled
> >drone that goes under offending vehicles, attatches, and then detonates
> >blowing all but the heaviest vehicles at least off the road if not into pieces.
> Whew! I thought that was going to be a SNL refference.

SNL?

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Luc AKA BobW

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BUT THE CORPSE STILL HAS THE FLOOR!
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Message no. 26
From: "Gorrilla, Chris" <CGorrill@***.DrydenNY.attgis.com>
Subject: RE: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 96 09:26:00 PDT
LUC wrote:

>SNL?

Saturday Night Live. Long running variety comedy show in US, for
non-North Americans.

Chris
Message no. 27
From: "Paolo Falco" <Falco@****.it>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:48:59 +0000
Luc wrote:
>
>use a land shark. I think it is from Lone Star manual. A
>remote controlled drone that goes under offending vehicles,
>attatches, and then detonates blowing all but the heaviest
>vehicles at least off the road if not into pieces.

"To serve and to protect", wasn't it? :)
What do Lone Star use it for, speeding tickets?
(ducks for cover. I ain't got the LS manual, so...) :)

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Message no. 28
From: Luc <rjwate01@*****.louisville.edu>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 04:54:54 -0500 (EDT)
> >use a land shark. I think it is from Lone Star manual. A
> >remote controlled drone that goes under offending vehicles,
> >attatches, and then detonates blowing all but the heaviest
> >vehicles at least off the road if not into pieces.
> "To serve and to protect", wasn't it? :)
> What do Lone Star use it for, speeding tickets?
> (ducks for cover. I ain't got the LS manual, so...) :)

Don't really rememeber myself (no LS manual until I buy another). I
personally think it is a tad on the excessive for anything the highway patrol
would need...maybe someone with LS manual would be willing to look it up.

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Luc AKA BobW

EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME!
BUT THE CORPSE STILL HAS THE FLOOR!
--Kevin Spacey as Lloyd in The Ref (1994)

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Message no. 29
From: Stephen Delear <shadow@***.com>
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Assassinations
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:50:29 -0500 (CDT)
On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, William Monroe Ashe wrote:

> As I recall the Russians got the idea from the israelis. The israelis
> manufactured a working cell phone with a C-4 charge in it. They had a
> secret agent swap out the real phone with the bomb phone. Then the
> israelis just called him up on it. When they confirmed it was his
> voice... Boom!
> If you're gonna assassinate someone at least be clever about it.
>
> I think that it would be easier to go this route than try to mess with
> Doc Wagon.

So what about homming in on a street sams head phone? Could the corp
trace the signal if he didn't answer it (after all they got OJ on a cell
phone).

Stephen

>
> Just my $0.02
> Regards
> Bill
>

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