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Message no. 1
From: Frank Pelletier <jeanpell@****.IVIC.QC.CA>
Subject: Cheetahs and Knives
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:52:55 +0000
Rick J. Irvine <irvine@***.PURDUE.EDU>, our resident feline, once
wrote,

> Would people consider a small (roughly 3 foot tall) person wielding a knife
> to do standard knife damage, or something in between sword and knife? My
> thoughts here lie on the fact that a person wielding a bladed weapon that
> is 'sword sized' relative to their own body will be thrusting and swinging,
> and putting their body into it, so to speak. Whereas a person wielding a
> 'knife sized' weapon (sized accordingly with their own size) would be poking
> and slashing, ie putting less relative force behind it.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> - Cheetah
>

I think you answered your own question. A small person wielding a
knife with a strenght of 1 hits as hard as a bigger person hitting
with the same strenght (Str+1 L, Therefore 2L if I'm not mistaken).
IMHO, there is no reason to either increase/decrease the damage done
when taking the size of the attacker into account. And since many knife
attack techniques already use slashes and parries (parrii? parryes?
;) ), the difference between a big person wielding it, and a small
person doing the same, would be pretty small. Therefore, the difference
between using a knife in a typical poking fashion, and using it in a
"Steven Seagal"-way >>insert:shiver<< will be mainly differenciated
in skill, not size.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is A knife is A knife is A knife...
It's not a short sword for small people, nor is it a potato peeler
for trolls. Only skill and strenght play a part in differenciating
the two.

Trinity

"Life is a blur"
Message no. 2
From: Tim Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Cheetahs and Knives
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:43:50 EDT
On Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:52:55 +0000 Frank Pelletier
<jeanpell@****.IVIC.QC.CA> writes:

[snip the stuff I agree with]

>Basically, what I'm trying to say is A knife is A knife is A knife...
>It's not a short sword for small people, nor is it a potato peeler
>for trolls. Only skill and strenght play a part in differenciating
>the two.

Well, except in the case of a troll... if a troll stabs you with a puny
knife, you take an extra light wound *in addition* to the massive amounts
of Stun from the ham-sized fist holding the knife..

:)

~Tim
Message no. 3
From: Allan Petersen <ap@******.DK>
Subject: Re: Cheetahs and Knives
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 13:10:02 +0100
Cheetah wrote

> Would people consider a small (roughly 3 foot tall) person wielding a
knife
> to do standard knife damage, or something in between sword and knife? My
> thoughts here lie on the fact that a person wielding a bladed weapon that
> is 'sword sized' relative to their own body will be thrusting and
swinging,
> and putting their body into it, so to speak. Whereas a person wielding a
> 'knife sized' weapon (sized accordingly with their own size) would be
poking
> and slashing, ie putting less relative force behind it.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> - Cheetah
>
If i were you i would follow the way Shadowrun treats Metahuman characters
and gear. FASA has made damage very abstract and not at all like Twilight
2000. In Shadowrun weapons do the damage weapons do and all those special
rules just confuse.

My advice: Trolls get +4 Strength and +1 reach, your Gnome/Pixie should get=

-2 Strength and -1 reach. Simple, easy and not all those special rules.

allan
Denmark

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