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Message no. 1
From: dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject: Church Net
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:50:49 -0600 (MDT)
After reading the recent press release about Microsoft's acquisition of the
Vatican I started wondering what the computer system and programs
protecting the Vatican in SRII would be like. Any ideas?

Right now I'm thinking about using it in an adventure involving vampires,
the catholic church and metahuman rights activists.

-David

/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ dbuehrer@****.org /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\
"His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and breaking alliances like
underpants in a dryer without Cling Free."
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Message no. 2
From: "Paolo Falco the FoxMaster" <Falco@****.it>
Subject: Re: Church Net
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:52:37 +0200
On 15 Jul 96, David Buehrer wrote:

> After reading the recent press release about Microsoft's
> acquisition of the Vatican

REALLY? Wow, the catholic Church must be in real deep doo-doo!!
Geez, seeling everything to the biggest nerd on earth! :)

> I started wondering what the computer system and programs
> protecting the Vatican in SRII would be like. Any ideas?

My deepest hope is that the pope will goblinize into the
stupidest troll ever and the whole Catholic Church apparatus will crumble as he
forgets how papal slippers are to be properly put on. (Personal
views only, no offense intended for all of the catholics out
there... You are entitled to your opinions, I to mine) :)

> Right now I'm thinking about using it in an adventure involving
> vampires, the catholic church and metahuman rights activists.

COPYCAT!!! :)

You got this idea from my post about "Baron" Zbjigniew Yanacek
aka the archetypal nosferatu, who posed as a Vatican-sent
vampire hunter! I _WANT_ full credits! :)

(Seriously, if you need any help with the adventure, I did
something like that once... Contact me!)

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Message no. 3
From: John Coughlin <john.coughlin@***.edu>
Subject: Re: Church Net
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:07:19 -0700 (MST)
In Aztlan, I think Fastjack makes a comment that the Jesuit subsection
of the Vatican is NASTY with a capital boom, as well as stating that many
deckers are or received Jesuit training (the whole education thing). I
imagine it would be very well guarded, but would hide black ice very deep
(much like all the other religions, it cant be known how bad they need to
keep secrets)

On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, David Buehrer wrote:

> After reading the recent press release about Microsoft's acquisition of the
> Vatican I started wondering what the computer system and programs
> protecting the Vatican in SRII would be like. Any ideas?
>
> Right now I'm thinking about using it in an adventure involving vampires,
> the catholic church and metahuman rights activists.
>
> -David
>
> /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ dbuehrer@****.org /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\
> "His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and breaking alliances like
> underpants in a dryer without Cling Free."
> ~~~~~~http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/homepage.htm~~~~~~~
>
Message no. 4
From: John Coughlin <john.coughlin@***.edu>
Subject: Re: Church Net
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:13:54 -0700 (MST)
Er....oopsssss......that first line should read, "In Aztlan, Fastjack
makes the comment that the Jesuit subsection..... Sorry about that all!

On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, John Coughlin wrote:

> of the Vatican is NASTY with a capital boom, as well as stating that many
> deckers are or received Jesuit training (the whole education thing). I
> imagine it would be very well guarded, but would hide black ice very deep
> (much like all the other religions, it cant be known how bad they need to
> keep secrets)
>
> On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, David Buehrer wrote:
>
> > After reading the recent press release about Microsoft's acquisition of the
> > Vatican I started wondering what the computer system and programs
> > protecting the Vatican in SRII would be like. Any ideas?
> >
> > Right now I'm thinking about using it in an adventure involving vampires,
> > the catholic church and metahuman rights activists.
> >
> > -David
> >
> > /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ dbuehrer@****.org /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\
> > "His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and breaking alliances like
> > underpants in a dryer without Cling Free."
> > ~~~~~~http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/homepage.htm~~~~~~~
> >
>
Message no. 5
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Church Net
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:49:00 +0100
David Buehrer said on 9:50/15 Jul 96...

> After reading the recent press release about Microsoft's acquisition of the
> Vatican I started wondering what the computer system and programs
> protecting the Vatican in SRII would be like. Any ideas?

Mnimum? A UV-15/15/15/15/15 host spreading Catholic propaganda :)

My guess is that they'd have got blue of green security, with just a bit
of Access ICE, in the public areas where people can go to Matrix church
services (thriving market, that :) and not much else. I can't really
imagine what the Vatican would have to hide...

But with your adventure, you may want to put in a few trapdoors to orange
or probably red hosts with the secret agendas on them.

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Desolate and without purpose.
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Character Mortuary: http://huizen.dds.nl/~mortuary/mortuary.html <-

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Message no. 6
From: C J Anderson <nitehawk@******.net>
Subject: Re: Church Net
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:26:58 -0500
Gurth wrote:
>
> David Buehrer said on 9:50/15 Jul 96...
>
> > After reading the recent press release about Microsoft's acquisition of the
> > Vatican I started wondering what the computer system and programs
> > protecting the Vatican in SRII would be like. Any ideas?
>
> Mnimum? A UV-15/15/15/15/15 host spreading Catholic propaganda :)
>
> My guess is that they'd have got blue of green security, with just a bit
> of Access ICE, in the public areas where people can go to Matrix church
> services (thriving market, that :) and not much else. I can't really
> imagine what the Vatican would have to hide...
>
> But with your adventure, you may want to put in a few trapdoors to orange
> or probably red hosts with the secret agendas on them.
>

"Can't imagine what the Vatican has to hide." Look out, Chummer! Take
the blinders off! The Vatican has the most extensive collection of art
and other treasures in the world. Also, a SR GM might want to go with
the whole Illuminati conspriacy thing which would mean a massive plot to
control world events would be hidden in there somewhere. The Catholic
heirarchy is one of the most secretive since the Knights Templar. You
don't think the computer system is going to be well protected? Just
something to think about....

--C J Anderson

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SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!
Message no. 7
From: Brian Johnson <john0375@****.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Church Net
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:22:34 -0500 (CDT)
> > After reading the recent press release about Microsoft's acquisition of the
> > Vatican I started wondering what the computer system and programs
> > protecting the Vatican in SRII would be like. Any ideas?

what about all those pornography archives?
Think they've scanned them in on CD-ROM yet?

The vatican my not have some heavy stuff, but the sylvestrines (which may
fall under vatican jurisdiction) ought to have loads of stuff, mostly
'was it really a miracle or just magic' type files, and a few more on
who's been bad and who's been good, and who's excommunicated, and some
more stuff on politics in ITA, and still more stuff on secret
society/save the world/bad corporations/sponsors/corporate payoffs to the
vatican/who's donated what/and who's trying to destroy the world, and
what are we going to do about it. Good way to drop the threats stuff on
someone...
Message no. 8
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Church Net
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 13:46:43 +0100
C J Anderson said on 9:26/16 Jul 96...

> "Can't imagine what the Vatican has to hide." Look out, Chummer! Take
> the blinders off! The Vatican has the most extensive collection of art
> and other treasures in the world.

And they store those in their computer system? I don't think so... They
most likely have a computer running their security system, but I for one
would not hook a security computer to the matrix if I could avoid it. Bury
the system somewhere inside the building so the decker has to physically
get into the compound before he can jack in, and then make it a rigger-run
system just to annoy the decker a bit more. Or use one-way datalines
toward locks etc., so the central computer can send "lock" and
"unlock"
commands to them but cannot receive anything back => no jacking in through
maglocks or vending machines.

--
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Excuse me ma'am for being so rude
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Character Mortuary: http://huizen.dds.nl/~mortuary/mortuary.html <-

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Message no. 9
From: C J Anderson <nitehawk@******.net>
Subject: Re: Church Net
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 07:10:33 -0500
Gurth wrote:
>
> C J Anderson said on 9:26/16 Jul 96...
>
> > "Can't imagine what the Vatican has to hide." Look out, Chummer!
Take
> > the blinders off! The Vatican has the most extensive collection of art
> > and other treasures in the world.
>
> And they store those in their computer system? I don't think so... They
> most likely have a computer running their security system, but I for one
> would not hook a security computer to the matrix if I could avoid it. Bury
> the system somewhere inside the building so the decker has to physically
> get into the compound before he can jack in, and then make it a rigger-run
> system just to annoy the decker a bit more. Or use one-way datalines
> toward locks etc., so the central computer can send "lock" and
"unlock"
> commands to them but cannot receive anything back => no jacking in through
> maglocks or vending machines.
>
> --
> Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
> Excuse me ma'am for being so rude
> -> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
> -> The Character Mortuary: http://huizen.dds.nl/~mortuary/mortuary.html <-
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Okay, missed the point..... The location of those treasures, and other
vital info would probably be locked inside one of the top five, if not
the most secured computer system in the world. The Vatican has, at its
disposal, one of the most highly trained counterterrorist teams in the
world. It stands to reason their computer system would also be top of
the line, eh?

--C J Anderson

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Message no. 10
From: Elfman <elfman@*********.net>
Subject: Re: Church Net
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:35:04 -0700 (PDT)
At 11:49 16-07-96 +0100, you wrote:
>David Buehrer said on 9:50/15 Jul 96...
>
>> After reading the recent press release about Microsoft's acquisition of the
>> Vatican I started wondering what the computer system and programs
>> protecting the Vatican in SRII would be like. Any ideas?
>
>Mnimum? A UV-15/15/15/15/15 host spreading Catholic propaganda :)
>
>My guess is that they'd have got blue of green security, with just a bit
>of Access ICE, in the public areas where people can go to Matrix church
>services (thriving market, that :) and not much else. I can't really
>imagine what the Vatican would have to hide...

An organization that has been around for almost 2000 years and nothing the
hide,
I kinda doubt that. Try looking in "Black Madonna" for some ideas. Yes its a
novel, but we're looking for ideas, not rules 8-)

Sgt Pepper

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