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Message no. 1
From: mattness@**.pl (mattness@**.pl)
Subject: Colorized Black and White graphic
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:20:39 +0100
http://ns30642.ovh.net/~abcfunny/Y/fantasy/shadowrun/shadowrun_004.jpg

I just add colors to that graphic (I love that dwarvess).
Can I publish it?
Whom I should ask for permission?
Graphic? (Who made that: Waller or Nelson?).
WizKids?
These copyrights are pretty frustrating :/

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Message no. 2
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Colorized Black and White graphic
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:34:10 +0100
According to mattness@**.pl, on 15-12-05 19:20 the word on the street was...

> I just add colors to that graphic (I love that dwarvess).
> Can I publish it?

Probably not, but I'm not up to speed on the rules for this kind of thing.

> Whom I should ask for permission?
> Graphic? (Who made that: Waller or Nelson?).

I wish I could find the book that it's from ... It might give the answer :)

> WizKids?

It depends on how FASA handled the rights to these things. If they
bought the rights from the artist, then they now belong to WizKids;
otherwise, they might belong to the original artist(s).

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Message no. 3
From: jjvanp@*****.com (Jan Jaap van Poelgeest)
Subject: Colorized Black and White graphic
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:52:15 -0800 (PST)
--- Gurth <gurth@******.nl> wrote:

> According to mattness@**.pl, on 15-12-05 19:20 the
> word on the street was...
>
> > I just add colors to that graphic (I love that
> dwarvess).
> > Can I publish it?

I don't think you can (though you could run a filter
over the original B&W and probably be able to hide
behind artistic license -don't know what the
precedents are for such a case). You may send it to me
privately though :).

cheers,

Jan Jaap

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Message no. 4
From: lists@*******.com (Wordman)
Subject: Colorized Black and White graphic
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:22:24 -0500
On Dec 15, 2005, at 1:20 PM, mattness@**.pl wrote:
> http://ns30642.ovh.net/~abcfunny/Y/fantasy/shadowrun/shadowrun_004.jpg
> Can I publish it?

Uh... you just did. You posted it to a public network.
Message no. 5
From: jjvanp@*****.com (Jan Jaap van Poelgeest)
Subject: Colorized Black and White graphic
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:43:23 -0800 (PST)
--- Wordman <lists@*******.com> wrote:

>
> On Dec 15, 2005, at 1:20 PM, mattness@**.pl wrote:
> >
>
http://ns30642.ovh.net/~abcfunny/Y/fantasy/shadowrun/shadowrun_004.jpg
> > Can I publish it?
>
> Uh... you just did. You posted it to a public
> network.

Presumably this isn't his webpage and therefore
technically not him publishing it, or he'd already be
incriminating himself while asking whether he can (and
this would be... not clever). Unless he considers this
network non-public; this would be rather naive
considering the fact that the list archives are
accessible to everyman. I'm going to say that his
altered, coloured-in version is what truly matters
here and this remains as of yet unpublished.

So, does the rifle have a yellow rubberized grip? :)

cheers,

Jan Jaap

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Message no. 6
From: mattness@**.pl (mattness@**.pl)
Subject: Colorized Black and White graphic
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:46:17 +0100
At Wordman & Jan Jaap
Don't presume such things, please.
I didn't publish this picture on http://ns30642.ovh.net
I even don't have scanner :)

But I colorized it with paint

Gurth - iirc this is from cybertech sourcebook. (reality check: yup. Page
5)

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MATT
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mattness@**.pl
http://shadowrun-polska.prv.pl

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