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Message no. 1
From: Mick Rissling mrissling@*******.com
Subject: Commanding Spirits
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:02:23 PDT
Is line of sight required to command spirits? We have always played
that this is so, but I would like some input.
What about the target of the service? Do you need LOS? I know that
Nature Spirits are considered omnipresent in their domain, but what about
other spirits? Ex: A mage commands his elemental (which he can see) to
Engulf the corp sec goon (who is around the corner and therefore out of
LOS). Can he?
TIA.


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Message no. 2
From: Chris Maxfield cmaxfiel@****.org.au
Subject: Commanding Spirits
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:47:39 +1000
At 15:02 24/08/99 -0700, Mick Rissling wrote:
> Is line of sight required to command spirits? We have always played
> that this is so, but I would like some input.

Well, LOS and present e.g. in the same room, is how we play it. This means
that the magician must sometimes summon the spirit back into his presence
to command it.

> What about the target of the service? Do you need LOS? I know that
> Nature Spirits are considered omnipresent in their domain, but what about
> other spirits? Ex: A mage commands his elemental (which he can see) to
> Engulf the corp sec goon (who is around the corner and therefore out of
> LOS). Can he?

Yep. The mage can command the elemental to go anywhere and do anything. If
this takes the elemental beyond the influence of the mage, it becomes a
remote service, however, and that'll be the last thing that elemental does
for the mage. If, on the other hand, the elemental remains within range of
the mage, (INT+CHA+Magic)*10, LOS is not a requirement for the elemental to
perform its service and remain bound to the mage.


Chris
Message no. 3
From: Chris Maxfield cmaxfiel@****.org.au
Subject: Commanding Spirits
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:23:37 +1000
>remains within range of the mage, (INT+CHA+Magic)*10, LOS is not a
>requirement for the elemental to perform its service and remain

Oops. I meant (WILL+CHA+Magic)*10 meters.


Chris
Message no. 4
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Commanding Spirits
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:34:20 +0200
According to Mick Rissling, at 15:02 on 24 Aug 99, the word on
the street was...

> Is line of sight required to command spirits? We have always played
> that this is so, but I would like some input.

Nature spirits are everywhere in their domain, so you always are near them
once you've summoned them (remember that they go away when you leave their
domain, except if they're performing a service that's not finished yet).

Elementals, in SRII, needed to stay in LOS -- which did not mean the
magician had to have them in his or her field of vision all the time, just
that the two _could_ be able to see each other (there's an important
difference there). In SR3 that's been revised so that they only need to be
within (Charisma + Willpower + Magic) x 10 meters of the mage (using the
mage's attributes, not the elemental's).

> What about the target of the service? Do you need LOS? I know that
> Nature Spirits are considered omnipresent in their domain, but what about
> other spirits? Ex: A mage commands his elemental (which he can see) to
> Engulf the corp sec goon (who is around the corner and therefore out of
> LOS). Can he?

In SR3, I'd say yes, provided the goon is within range. In SRII, no,
because the elemental must remain in LOS; so, as long as the magician
can't look around the corner (for instance by a conveniently-placed
mirror, or a large window that reflects what's happening around the
corner) the elemental can't engulf the goon.

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