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From:	Lyndon Baugh <lyndon@*****.COM>
Subject:	Conjuring Spirits on Metaplane
Date:	Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:24:18 GMT

Message no. 1 Are there any published guidelines for what happens if someone tries
to conjure a nature spirit or elemental on the metaplanes?

Our group does not have every single published item, but given a Clue
can go track stuff down.

From:	Mongoose <evamarie@**********.NET>
Subject:	Re: Conjuring Spirits on Metaplane
Date:	Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:59:15 -0600

Message no. 2 Are there any published guidelines for what happens if someone tries
to conjure a nature spirit or elemental on the metaplanes?

Our group does not have every single published item, but given a Clue
can go track stuff down.

+++++++++++++++

Some metaplanes are just like normal physical space, and some are
completely different- it would be the whim of that planes "physics"- IE,
up to the GM. You can even play the metaplanes as an entirely different
game.
Since most folks visit either totemic planes or elemental planes,
those would be the ones you'd have to figure out. I'd say you could maybe
summon on those planes (totemic, most likely- mages would need to find
materials, circle, and library), but it would be harder (but maybe less
draining), and it would be more like calling a contact than giving orders.
The Grimore and awakenings are theo only source on the metaplanes;
"Harlequins Back" and "Iamago" have some use of them as a potential
part
of the advanture. <is that spoiler proofed vaugeness enough?>

Mongoose

From:	"D. Ghost" <dghost@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: Conjuring Spirits on Metaplane
Date:	Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:39:38 -0600

Message no. 3 On Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:24:18 GMT Lyndon Baugh <lyndon@*****.COM> writes:
>Are there any published guidelines for what happens if someone tries
>to conjure a nature spirit or elemental on the metaplanes?
>
>Our group does not have every single published item, but given a Clue
>can go track stuff down.

It's basicly up to the GMs ... Harlequin's Back involves some conjuring
of Spirits on the metaplanes. Hmmmmm... Does this not, however, construe
a contridiction bewteen the two editions? Since metaplanar projection is
a magical activity and conjury is an exclusive action, it, by the book,
can't be done. :/

--
D. Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum, RuPixel)
"Coffee without caffeine is like sex without the spanking." -- Cupid
re-cur-sion (ri-kur'-zhen) noun. 1. See recursion.

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From:	Lyndon Baugh <lyndon@*****.COM>
Subject:	Re: Conjuring Spirits on Metaplane
Date:	Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:18:14 GMT

Message no. 4 Mongoose,
Your spoiler was amply vague. By a remarkable non-coincidence the
characters are just starting Harlequin's Back (including a teenage,
naive, enthusiastic, well-intentioned snake shaman I'm playing, who
has been in Seattle less than 48 hours before getting into this.
Summoning spirits is one of the most Obvious Standard Operating
Procedure things to do. Fortunately there are more experienced
characters around. He was inflicted on the senior mage as a Long Lost
Relative.)

So basically the GM in this instance can do Whatever He Wants To
<insert evil cackle here?> without fear of contradicting precedent?
The first episode has already had ample amusement potential ...

Lyndon

From:	Mongoose <evamarie@**********.NET>
Subject:	Re: Conjuring Spirits on Metaplane
Date:	Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:23:08 -0600

Message no. 5 :It's basicly up to the GMs ... Harlequin's Back involves some conjuring
:of Spirits on the metaplanes. Hmmmmm... Does this not, however, construe
:a contridiction bewteen the two editions? Since metaplanar projection is
:a magical activity and conjury is an exclusive action, it, by the book,
:can't be done. :/

Projecting is an exclusive action. Once you are astral, you can carry
out magical actions (like casting spells, dispelling, spell defense - only
on astral targets, of course, in SR3).
You specifically can not summon while astral, (not because of
"exclusivity", but as a special limitation), but once you hit the
metaplanes, its literally a whole new world. On some metaplanes, you can
use astral projection to scout around, for example.

Mongoose

From:	"XaOs [David Goth]" <xaos@*****.NET>
Subject:	Re: Conjuring Spirits on Metaplane
Date:	Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:29:16 -0600

Message no. 6 > You specifically can not summon while astral, (not because of
> "exclusivity", but as a special limitation), but once you hit the
> metaplanes, its literally a whole new world. On some metaplanes, you can
> use astral projection to scout around, for example.

I would contend that being on a metaplane is completely different than being
astral. Thus, back to the idea that the rules of the world (GM) apply.

-XaOs-
xaos@*****.net
-David Goth-

From:	K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject:	Re: Conjuring Spirits on Metaplane
Date:	Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:27:03 EST

Message no. 7 In a message dated 11/1/1998 4:23:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
lyndon@*****.COM writes:

> Are there any published guidelines for what happens if someone tries
> to conjure a nature spirit or elemental on the metaplanes?
>
> Our group does not have every single published item, but given a Clue
> can go track stuff down.

As far as I can readily recall, there are no references for this. There are
references concerning Conjuring in the Astral, but not the Metaplanes
themselves. There simply isn't enough information, other than to maybe
encourage GM fiendishness, to help out in this field.

-K

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