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Message no. 1
From: "Terry L. Amburgey" <xanth@********.UKY.EDU>
Subject: Converting Gurth
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:42:06 -0500
At 01:19 PM 11/18/96 +0100, Gurth wrote:
>
>My reason for this: Dowd was the one responsible for the official
>direction the rules (and source material) took. As you may or may not
>know, I'm not one of those by-the-book types who follow every rule as it
>is written without deviating from it one millimeter. I tend take rules as
>guidelines, nothing more.

C'mon Gurth, say it ain't so. One of my missions in life is to show you
the light and convert you to a by-the-book gamer. Don't you realize that
deviating from the rules-as-written leads to The Dark Side :) Terry

Terry L. Amburgey Email: xanth@***.uky.edu
Associate Professor Phone: (606) 257-7726
College of Business and Economics Fax: (606) 257-3577
University of Kentucky
Lexington, KY 40506-0034
Message no. 2
From: Pete <Pete@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Converting Gurth
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:19:45 +0000
In article <2.2.32.19961118194206.006c30f8@***.uky.edu>, "Terry L.
Amburgey" <xanth@********.UKY.EDU> writes
>At 01:19 PM 11/18/96 +0100, Gurth wrote:
>>
>>My reason for this: Dowd was the one responsible for the official
>>direction the rules (and source material) took. As you may or may not
>>know, I'm not one of those by-the-book types who follow every rule as it
>>is written without deviating from it one millimeter. I tend take rules as
>>guidelines, nothing more.
>
>C'mon Gurth, say it ain't so. One of my missions in life is to show you
>the light and convert you to a by-the-book gamer. Don't you realize that
>deviating from the rules-as-written leads to The Dark Side :) Terry

But Terry, you have to remember that Gurth is A Shadowrun Guru, this
equates him to a Japanese Sensei, or if you want to get really silly, a
Jedi Knight... He can't become part of the Dark Side, he already opposes
it... If only through the simple action of imagination and creativity.


--
Pete Sims
Civilisation advances by extending the number of important operations which we
can perform without thinking about them.
Message no. 3
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Converting Gurth
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:59:14 -0500
>>C'mon Gurth, say it ain't so. One of my missions in life is to show you
>>the light and convert you to a by-the-book gamer. Don't you realize that
>>deviating from the rules-as-written leads to The Dark Side :) Terry
>
>But Terry, you have to remember that Gurth is A Shadowrun Guru, this
>equates him to a Japanese Sensei, or if you want to get really silly, a
>Jedi Knight... He can't become part of the Dark Side, he already opposes
>it... If only through the simple action of imagination and creativity.
>
Unless, Pete, Gurth is really a master of the Dark Side already...

So, Gurth, are you a Sith Lord?

-Bull-the-grinning-Star-Wars-fan-decker-turned-GM


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Message no. 4
From: Pete <Pete@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Converting Gurth
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 03:39:53 +0000
In article <199611190159.UAA19912@***.ncweb.com>, Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
writes

>>it... If only through the simple action of imagination and creativity.
>>
>Unless, Pete, Gurth is really a master of the Dark Side already...
>
>So, Gurth, are you a Sith Lord?
>
>-Bull-the-grinning-Star-Wars-fan-decker-turned-GM

You go and stick to your little furry bug eyed friends OK... <grin>
You.... Ewok lover <shudder> :)

It is obvious that Gurth can't possibly be anything from the dark side,
he has no *obvious* munchkin qualities :) Aside from which, being a
creative rather than destructive person he must therefore, live in the
light :) <smirk>

--
Pete Sims
Civilisation advances by extending the number of important operations which we
can perform without thinking about them.
Message no. 5
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Converting Gurth
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:51:58 +0100
Pete said on 22:19/18 Nov 96...

> But Terry, you have to remember that Gurth is A Shadowrun Guru, this
> equates him to a Japanese Sensei

What have I been telling you about this: *not* a sensei... More like a
'60s fruitcake without the hair, beard, and beads... :)

> or if you want to get really silly, a Jedi Knight... He can't become
> part of the Dark Side, he already opposes it... If only through the
> simple action of imagination and creativity.

What, by choosing a name that doesn't appear in a FASA sourcebook?

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Message no. 6
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Converting Gurth
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:51:58 +0100
Terry L. Amburgey said on 14:42/18 Nov 96...

> At 01:19 PM 11/18/96 +0100, Gurth wrote:
[snip most of my stuff]
> > I tend take rules as guidelines, nothing more.
>
> C'mon Gurth, say it ain't so. One of my missions in life is to show you
> the light and convert you to a by-the-book gamer. Don't you realize that
> deviating from the rules-as-written leads to The Dark Side :) Terry

I had expected to hear from you, yes... :) To be precise, I see rules as
guidelines but I apply most of them BTB -- this has something to do with
a good memory for these things, as well as with liking the SR rules
system.

But I'll *never* give in to total submission to sticking to the rules :)

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Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
That's when it all gets blown away.
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-

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Message no. 7
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Converting Gurth
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:51:58 +0100
Bull said on 20:59/18 Nov 96...

> Unless, Pete, Gurth is really a master of the Dark Side already...
>
> So, Gurth, are you a Sith Lord?

Only aspiring to be... I still have a lot to learn in that respect (plus I
have to go to a tailor to get the cool suit made).

And Pete Sims replied to that:

> You go and stick to your little furry bug eyed friends OK... <grin>
> You.... Ewok lover <shudder> :)
>
> It is obvious that Gurth can't possibly be anything from the dark side,
> he has no *obvious* munchkin qualities :)

When I actually get to play, I tend more toward the loonie side, true...

> Aside from which, being a creative rather than destructive person he
> must therefore, live in the light :) <smirk>

If it's any help, from time to time I've thought of buying the Star Wars
RPG, and one thing that first put me off was when I found out you were
supposed to play a light side character... I mean, stormtroopers seem a
lot cooler to me :) Still, I guess I'll go get that revised edition soon
after all...

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
That's when it all gets blown away.
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-

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Message no. 8
From: Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Converting Gurth
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:21:21 GMT
Gurth writes

> Terry L. Amburgey said on 14:42/18 Nov 96...
>
> > C'mon Gurth, say it ain't so. One of my missions in life is to show you
> > the light and convert you to a by-the-book gamer. Don't you realize that
> > deviating from the rules-as-written leads to The Dark Side :) Terry
>
> I had expected to hear from you, yes... :) To be precise, I see rules as
> guidelines but I apply most of them BTB -- this has something to do with
> a good memory for these things, as well as with liking the SR rules
> system.
>
> But I'll *never* give in to total submission to sticking to the rules :)
>
I agree with Gurth, but what hope have we got of converting Terry ?
not a lot i suspect, but it did take him a while to get involved.

Mark
Message no. 9
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Converting Gurth
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:25:22 +0000
On 19 Nov 96 at 3:39, Pete wrote:
[snip]
> It is obvious that Gurth can't possibly be anything from the dark side,
> he has no *obvious* munchkin qualities :) Aside from which, being a
> creative rather than destructive person he must therefore, live in the
> light :) <smirk>
That's not a nice thing to say about a shadowrunner.

Sascha
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Message no. 10
From: John Pederson <Canthros@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Converting Gurth
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:01:04 -0500
In a message dated 96-11-19 07:30:32 EST, you write:

>
>> But Terry, you have to remember that Gurth is A Shadowrun Guru, this
>> equates him to a Japanese Sensei
>
>What have I been telling you about this: *not* a sensei... More like a
>'60s fruitcake without the hair, beard, and beads... :)
>
>> or if you want to get really silly, a Jedi Knight... He can't become
>> part of the Dark Side, he already opposes it... If only through the
>> simple action of imagination and creativity.
>
>What, by choosing a name that doesn't appear in a FASA sourcebook?
Better to choose Sindarin for death (gurthu-) than use something someone else
used:)

John Pederson "God is dead"
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Message no. 11
From: Pete <Pete@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Converting Gurth
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:55:21 +0000
In article <m0vPpGV-0004wiC@*******.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>, Sascha
Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE> writes
>On 19 Nov 96 at 3:39, Pete wrote:
>[snip]
>> It is obvious that Gurth can't possibly be anything from the dark side,
>> he has no *obvious* munchkin qualities :) Aside from which, being a
>> creative rather than destructive person he must therefore, live in the
>> light :) <smirk>
>That's not a nice thing to say about a shadowrunner.
>
> Sascha

Shadowrunner???? Oh dear, not any longer I'm afraid... I've had people
stationed outside Gurth's place for some months now, he *is* aware of
them, but he is no longer a shadowrunner... merely a teacher. A sort of
Guru, without beard, hair or beads... more like a Sensei really <grin>

--
Pete Sims
Civilisation advances by extending the number of important operations which we
can perform without thinking about them.
Message no. 12
From: Robert Watkins <robertdw@*******.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: Converting Gurth
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:33:33 +1100
>If it's any help, from time to time I've thought of buying the Star Wars
>RPG, and one thing that first put me off was when I found out you were
>supposed to play a light side character... I mean, stormtroopers seem a
>lot cooler to me :) Still, I guess I'll go get that revised edition soon
>after all...

Get the Imperial sourcebooks... you can play stormtroopers (well, not the
clones), and all that. Dedicated in the fight to maintain order and the
just rule of law against the criminal Rebels spawning anarchy and causing
unrest throughout the galaxy.

Sorry, you still can't play a Lord of the Sith.

(Actually, I found bounty hunters have the most fun...)


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