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Message no. 1
From: Michael Orion Jackson <orion@****.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:28:28 -0600
The adventure I'm thinking of running this weekend is the one in
NAN vol. one, one of my favorite adventures. I've run the thing like
three times now, but that was a couple years ago when 2nd ed. had yet to
come out. has anyone worked on converting it? Did you run into any
problems/quandries/areas that needed upgrading? Off the top of my head I
think the only thing I'll really have to screw with is the Matrix stuff to
bring it up to VR2.0 standards. Oh well, might as well actually get
around to doing my russian homework now (seems my successes on Special
Skill:Avoid Homework(8) ust ran out :) ).

Peace...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Michael Orion Jackson~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~TAMS Class of 1996/UT Class of 199?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~2112 Guadalupe, Rm. 502; Austin, Tx 78705 (The Goodall-Wooten)~~~~~~~
"Goddamn creatures of the night, they never learn." ~Gideon, _The Crow_
"Happiness is but a temporary chemical imbalance of the true baseline state
of our minds."~Lusiphur, quote ill-rembered and butchered by M. O. Jackson
Message no. 2
From: Hatchetman <Hatchetman@****.CZEST.PL>
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:22:26 +0100
At 20:32 5.11.96 GMT, you wrote:
> The adventure I'm thinking of running this weekend is the one in
>NAN vol. one, one of my favorite adventures. I've run the thing like
>three times now, but that was a couple years ago when 2nd ed. had yet to
>come out. has anyone worked on converting it? Did you run into any
>problems/quandries/areas that needed upgrading? Off the top of my head I
>think the only thing I'll really have to screw with is the Matrix stuff to
>bring it up to VR2.0 standards. Oh well, might as well actually get
>around to doing my russian homework now (seems my successes on Special
>Skill:Avoid Homework(8) ust ran out :) ).

Do you mean "The Peacemaker" ?
If so, you have a little to change, mainly weapons characteristic.
My players dislike this adventure because of its 'kill factor' - but IMHO
it's not so deadly as they see it...
Goodluck in GMing this stuff!
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Message no. 3
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:22:30 +0100
Hatchetman said on 22:22/ 5 Nov 96...

> Do you mean "The Peacemaker" ?
> If so, you have a little to change, mainly weapons characteristic.

Don't forget the spirits and the decking sequence. That last one is a bit
more difficult, though perhaps somebody has Stephen Eley's VR1 -> VR2
conversions saved anywhere? (I'm not certain I still have them.)

> My players dislike this adventure because of its 'kill factor' - but IMHO
> it's not so deadly as they see it...

I liked it, except for the decking bit. Two high-powered deckers slinging
Attack utilities at each other's Hardening takes like ten turns to
inflict a Light wound (under VR1 rules, that is), so this got dull really
quickly. Still, with VR2 rules it might go a bit differently.

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Message no. 4
From: mike.paff@*****.COM
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:09:47 -0800
> From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
>
> Don't forget the spirits and the decking sequence. That last one is a bit
> more difficult, though perhaps somebody has Stephen Eley's VR1 -> VR2
> conversions saved anywhere? (I'm not certain I still have them.)
>
I've still got them around if someone needs them.

Mike Paff
Message no. 5
From: Michael Orion Jackson <orion@****.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:23:38 -0600
Could you post them or mail them to me? It is looking like I will have to
run the adventure this weekend, and since the decking portion will
probably take the most time to convert, having ready-made guidelines would
help speed the conversion process up immensely...

Thanks!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Michael Orion Jackson~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~TAMS Class of 1996/UT Class of 199?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~2112 Guadalupe, Rm. 502; Austin, Tx 78705 (The Goodall-Wooten)~~~~~~~
"Goddamn creatures of the night, they never learn." ~Gideon, _The Crow_
"Happiness is but a temporary chemical imbalance of the true baseline state
of our minds."~Lusiphur, quote ill-rembered and butchered by M. O. Jackson

On Wed, 6 Nov 1996 mike.paff@*****.COM wrote:

> > From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
> >
> > Don't forget the spirits and the decking sequence. That last one is a bit
> > more difficult, though perhaps somebody has Stephen Eley's VR1 -> VR2
> > conversions saved anywhere? (I'm not certain I still have them.)
> >
> I've still got them around if someone needs them.
>
> Mike Paff
>
Message no. 6
From: Mike Hartmann <hartmann@***********.M.EUNET.DE>
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 21:41:09 +0000
On 6 Nov 96 at 13:09, mike.paff@*****.COM wrote:

> > Don't forget the spirits and the decking sequence. That last one is a bit
> > more difficult, though perhaps somebody has Stephen Eley's VR1 -> VR2
> > conversions saved anywhere? (I'm not certain I still have them.)
> >
> I've still got them around if someone needs them.


Send them to Paolo, so he can include them into his archive.

Mike
Message no. 7
From: Brian W Allison <ballison@*******.WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 16:56:29 -0500
On Sat, 9 Nov 1996, Mike Hartmann wrote:
> > I've still got them around if someone needs them.
> Send them to Paolo, so he can include them into his archive.

Why, can't the owner put them up in his own archive and have Paolo's
point to the originals?

That does two things that are nice:

1) Allows the owner to update or upgrade information immediately
instead of going through Paolo to get something changed.
2) Takes advangate of the nature of the WWW by actually distributing
the resources.

What you're suggesting is reminiscent of the old 'mainframe mentality'
days, where everything is kept in one place.

I'd rather have my MPCP fried by a Fireball from a Free Toxic Queen
Insect spirit!


Brian W. Allison

Computer Scientist Vocalist Would-be Poet Bicycler Scuba Diver
Hacker(0xca) Nerd(79) GenX(21) #include <witticism.h>
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Message no. 8
From: "Robert Pendergrast (Tom)" <3011_3@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 13:48:04 -0700
> What you're suggesting is reminiscent of the old 'mainframe mentality'
> days, where everything is kept in one place.
>
> I'd rather have my MPCP fried by a Fireball from a Free Toxic Queen
> Insect spirit!

OUCH!! Even a low-force one of those fraggers would REALLY suck! All
you GMs out there, don't get any ideas!

-Tom
Message no. 9
From: Brian W Allison <ballison@*******.WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:55:06 -0500
On Sat, 9 Nov 1996, Robert Pendergrast (Tom) wrote:

> > I'd rather have my MPCP fried by a Fireball from a Free Toxic Queen
> > Insect spirit!
>
> OUCH!! Even a low-force one of those fraggers would REALLY suck! All
> you GMs out there, don't get any ideas!


What do you mean? I'm a GM!!

Can a flesh-form be attacked by a Vampire? What happens if the vampire
kills the flesh-form by draining its Essence?

Vampiric Flesh-forms? Egads!!



It can get worse. Trust me. *evil grin*



Brian W. Allison

Computer Scientist Vocalist Would-be Poet Bicycler Scuba Diver
Hacker(0xca) Nerd(79) GenX(21) #include <witticism.h>
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~ballison

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Message no. 10
From: "Robert Pendergrast (Tom)" <3011_3@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 14:38:09 -0700
>>> I'd rather have my MPCP fried by a Fireball from a Free Toxic Queen
>>> Insect spirit!

>> OUCH!! Even a low-force one of those fraggers would REALLY suck! All
>> you GMs out there, don't get any ideas!

> What do you mean? I'm a GM!!
> Can a flesh-form be attacked by a Vampire? What happens if the vampire
> kills the flesh-form by draining its Essence?

> Vampiric Flesh-forms? Egads!!

That isn't funny.

> It can get worse. Trust me. *evil grin*

Tell me... <grin>...

-Tom
Message no. 11
From: Brian W Allison <ballison@*******.WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:46:34 -0500
> > Vampiric Flesh-forms? Egads!!
>
> That isn't funny.
>
> > It can get worse. Trust me. *evil grin*
>
> Tell me... <grin>...

What happens when a mundane becomes a perfect Flesh-form? The new
creature gets access to all of the old memories.

So, all of the mental Skills are included.

What if a decker were infected and became a Flesh-form?

Worse yet, an Otaku?



Perhaps *now* we see why in the Denver set it says that Otaku never
leave their enclave except to get new recruits. They know how hideous the
world is....



Brian W. Allison

Computer Scientist Vocalist Would-be Poet Bicycler Scuba Diver
Hacker(0xca) Nerd(79) GenX(21) #include <witticism.h>
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Message no. 12
From: "Robert Pendergrast (Tom)" <3011_3@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 15:03:54 -0700
<funky flesh froms, snip>

> What happens when a mundane becomes a perfect Flesh-form? The new
> creature gets access to all of the old memories.

OK...

> So, all of the mental Skills are included.

Ooohh... cool...

> What if a decker were infected and became a Flesh-form?

I can see problems there...

> Worse yet, an Otaku?

ALL RIGHT! THAT ISN'T FUNNY

So we could end up with Vampric Insect Flesh-Form Otaku Spirits? Agh!


-Tom
Message no. 13
From: John Pederson <Canthros@***.COM>
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:08:19 -0500
In a message dated 96-11-09 17:04:47 EST, you write:

>> > I'd rather have my MPCP fried by a Fireball from a Free Toxic Queen
>> > Insect spirit!
>>
>> OUCH!! Even a low-force one of those fraggers would REALLY suck! All
>> you GMs out there, don't get any ideas!
>
Too late! :):)>:)
>
> What do you mean? I'm a GM!!
>
> Can a flesh-form be attacked by a Vampire? What happens if the vampire
>kills the flesh-form by draining its Essence?
>
> Vampiric Flesh-forms? Egads!!
>
That's sick:)
>
>
> It can get worse. Trust me. *evil grin*
Of course it can! And it probably will>:)

John Pederson "God is dead"
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Message no. 14
From: Mike Hartmann <hartmann@***********.M.EUNET.DE>
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:46:11 +0000
On 9 Nov 96 at 16:56, Brian W Allison wrote:

> > > I've still got them around if someone needs them.
> > Send them to Paolo, so he can include them into his archive.
>
> Why, can't the owner put them up in his own archive and have Paolo's
> point to the originals?

Well, for Paolos site i know for sure that i get a connecion every
time, which does not necessarily hold true for some of the other sites...:)

> What you're suggesting is reminiscent of the old 'mainframe mentality'
> days, where everything is kept in one place.

That "mentality" has its advantages. Alot of them, believe me...:-)

Mike
Message no. 15
From: Brian W Allison <ballison@*******.WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject: Re: converting NAN vol. 1 adv => SR2
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:14:58 -0500
> Well, for Paolos site i know for sure that i get a connecion every
> time, which does not necessarily hold true for some of the other sites...:)

Irrelevent. Choose any site near on a good path, and you'll get
connectivity. I was talking about spreading out the load - the very thing
'Da Web' was meant to do.

> > What you're suggesting is reminiscent of the old 'mainframe mentality'
> > days, where everything is kept in one place.
>
> That "mentality" has its advantages. Alot of them, believe me...:-)

I disbelieve. I've never enjoyed mainframes, from 3090's to vaxen to
CMS. They all suck compared to a distributed computing environment.

But then, I'm not a Luser and don't present a drag to any SA types.


Believe me.... :)




Brian W. Allison

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