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From: William Ashe <wmashe@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Crop Circles... a rebuttal and an attempt to bring it back OT
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:34:59 -0700
>Hmm...that's what we call the "pseudo-reasoning". Attempting to disprove
>Erik's statement by mocking it. Childish and simplistic, at best. You
>have information that can in some way contradict Erik's, correct?
>Something you're willing to point to? Some info at all? I'm sure your
>feeble comments were leading up to something.
>
>
>Mike Broadwater


o.k.:
Granted the only source of info that I have that I consider somewhat
reliable is the documentary that was put out by the Discovery Channel.
Perhaps not the bastion of reasoned thought that we'd like to reference, but
better than The National Enquirer, or The Star.

In that show a number of the people who were first responsible for
generating the circles were interviewed. They demonstrated now they did it,
and several of them kept very detailed logs as to what they had done. For
the show they went out and made new crop circles. D.C. then went and
brought in the "experts" if you recall these were the men and women who had
woven very elaborate hats out of the fallen grain. IIRC the experts were
convinced that the crop circles that they originators had made were "genuine
extraterestial" in origin. I am a big fan of cons, hoaxes, and scams so I
watched this show with particular glee. The show also went on to explain
how whe the grain is still young enough to be pliable it can be bent without
breaking. Now, no where in my ... ahem ... exhaustive research (shyeah
right) have I seen any documentation regarding more convincing evidence that
says that ONE circle made was not attributable to a bunch of crazy codgers
or a bunch of college students out for a lark. Lay some real physical
evidence on me and I'll be the first one to start weaving myself a funny
hat.

2) A comment on cold fusion: I have my advanced degree in physics and went
to Texas A&M at the same time a couple of professors tried to regenerate the
Pons and Flieschman work. IIRC P&F spiked their hydrogen with deuterium and
tritium. If one examines the enrgy decay channels for all three reactions
one notices that there has to be a very specific type of radiation released
during fusion for a pure p+p=He nuclear reaction one gets 2 gamma rays, for
the spiked reactions one HAS to get a neutron flux. When the P&F and later
the A&M research was monitored using correctly calibrated neutron detectors
no rise in neutrons was noted ... no neutrons no fusion ... game over.

now back OT
If crop circles cause so much consternation now, imagine what they would
cause in 205X if they were shaped like giant ritual circles ... dragons
communing with the gods, alien magic ... hmmm lots of possibilites here

I hope that provides a more reasoned answer than my first trite one

regards
Bright-Light

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