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Message no. 1
From: Ben Jordan <jordanbd@***.BELOIT.EDU>
Subject: Crunchy Gangs--I think not.
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 14:22:32 +22310502
Gee, all my encounters with gang members have been interesting. You do not
survive in Seattle if you just mess up all the gang members you can find.
There is a reason they are called gangs--there are enough of them to make
your life miserable. They can for instance:

1. Post snipers along a street they see you on. Hard to take out
snipers. Particularly when they take you by suprise. No
reaction test for that first shot really. Just a declaration
"you have been shot, role to resist."

2. They can anoy you. They find where you live and trash your
apartment. They shoot out your tires whenever you drive through
their area. They ruin a meet by showing up and harassing you.
(No Mr. Johnson likes to be around if there is the chance they
might be conected--by being in the center of violent action--
to the party before the run even begins.)

3. They can save up some money and start a run against your party.
Lots of drug and protection money out there no reason not to use
it. If you can't take it on youself, bring in the heavy hitters.

Just a few ideas to make gangs interesting. If they were easy to deal with
then there would be no real point. Even the best runners can't afford to
cross a big gang any more that they can cross a big corp. You just can't
walk away that easily...
--

Ben-ha-meen
--i feel evil. like, that i am evil, not that
i feel an evil presence or something--

james mcculloch
Message no. 2
From: Luke Kendall <luke@********.CANON.OZ.AU>
Subject: Re: Crunchy Gangs--I think not.
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 09:32:04 +1100
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Message no. 3
From: Chris Siebenmann <cks@********.UTCS.TORONTO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Crunchy Gangs--I think not.
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 16:20:43 -0500
Gangers and Shadowrunners live in an uneasy Mexican standoff, because
both are nuts: both are prepared to do highly uneconomical and counter-
survival things if you push them too far. It's unwise to back a rat of
any sort into a corner, because they'll try to take you down with them.

Where exactly the corner is is a thing that depends on the people,
their rep, and the campaign. A lot depends on the rep; on the Street,
rep and face counts for a lot. Never embarass someone badly unless you
can live with them as an enemy.

- cks

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