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Message no. 1
From: Sebastian Wiers <seb@***.RIPCO.COM>
Subject: Cybertechnology
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:13:22 -0500
Iv'e been studieng cybertechnology for a while now and am not very
impressed. Yes, some of the ware is good, but underdescribed in general. And
the archtypes in the back are all botched, ie reactions miscalculated, rules
broken (sixmilsam has orthoskin and dermalsheath). The cyberlimb rules raise
good questions but answer them very poorly- I'd rather have seen rules for
building limbs ground up based on the patients physical atributes, for a
reasonable cost.

Anyhow, here are some specific questions:

What are the vision modifiers for someone using eyelights?

Can eyelights be installed in non-cyber lowlight eyes (orcs or elves)?

Is the cyber interface needed to activate the gyro arm? If hooked to other
built in devices, do you need one interface per device? I thought putting it
in a cyber arm and paying 4x normal price was good enoug to give you cyber
control of the device.

Eye lasers. Why all the different types? once you have a laze, can't you use
it as a designator or a tracker (if it is bright enough)?

What is involved in a lazer microphone? I would like a caracter with one
built ino the eye (instead of the cyberarm). No range is given in srII for
these.

On that tip, the shit about wearing mirror-shades to protect your eyes is
totaly wrong. Using a very low power lazer, and wearing a number 13 and 5
shield (dark gogals for oxy-aceteline welding under very dark mask for
arc-welding), I aimed into my eye, and was blinded for about 30 seconds.
Locking eyes with any sort of eye lazer system would be blinding, perhaps
permanantly.

Well, I'm sure this will get all the silence that technological points on this
list normally get.

By the way, the state of the art in cyber-enhanced running seems to be around
120km/hr. Strength can be very high in sigle limbs (40 or so), but why
bother. The nastiest new threats are armor plated cyber-zombies with very
high level tactical computers. Outrageos initiatives seem to expensive and
short term (healthwise) for any corp to bother developing very far.

5ebastian
aka
Mongoose
an elf with no essence
Message no. 2
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Cybertechnology
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 11:41:22 +0200
>What are the vision modifiers for someone using eyelights?

The blurb says they give you enough light to see by when you're using
low-light eyes. So maybe with LL you don't get modifiers, while without LL
you'd get the Partial Light modifiers?

>Can eyelights be installed in non-cyber lowlight eyes (orcs or elves)?

The text says "in the cybereye" so I say that rules out installing them into
organic eyes.

>Is the cyber interface needed to activate the gyro arm?

I don't think so. A gyro works on its own, without needing outside control
(at least, I think it does :). Still, the text talks about cyber-controlling
your gyromount...

>If hooked to other
>built in devices, do you need one interface per device?

Probably.

>Eye lasers. Why all the different types? once you have a laze, can't you use
>it as a designator or a tracker (if it is bright enough)?

The tracker is a limb-control device, not a laser built into the eye. I
believe you need a laser designator in your eye, and if you then also get a
tracker, your arm will point where you look.

>On that tip, the shit about wearing mirror-shades to protect your eyes is
>totaly wrong. Using a very low power lazer, and wearing a number 13 and 5
>shield (dark gogals for oxy-aceteline welding under very dark mask for
>arc-welding), I aimed into my eye, and was blinded for about 30 seconds.
>Locking eyes with any sort of eye lazer system would be blinding, perhaps
>permanantly.

That is good to know :) One thing to remember, BTW, is that the people
making the shadow comments not necessarily know what they're talking about
(of course that's just an easy way out for FASA if they've goofed :)

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Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Poe Saoer)
Subject: cybertechnology?
Date: Tue Feb 27 10:00:01 2001
okay, i thought i saw something about this in a earlier post, but i don't
remember for sure, but who knows where i could get my hand on
Cybertechnology? it is realy the only book left that i need,a nd i can't
find it anywhere...
also, is the GM screen worth buying, i know the summary on fasa's web page
says it has a book of creatures along with it but what do you who have it
think of it?
Drew
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Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Marc Renouf)
Subject: cybertechnology?
Date: Tue Feb 27 10:10:00 2001
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Poe Saoer wrote:

> okay, i thought i saw something about this in a earlier post, but i don't
> remember for sure, but who knows where i could get my hand on
> Cybertechnology? it is realy the only book left that i need,a nd i can't
> find it anywhere...

It's out of print. Further, it's and SR2 sourcebook. If you're
looking for stuff related to cyberware, bioware, and a host of other
goodies, the book you're looking for is the 3rd edition equivalent, "Man
and Machine." My guess is that it will be a lot easier to find, too. :)

Marc Renouf (ShadowRN GridSec - "Bad Cop" Division)

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Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Scott W)
Subject: cybertechnology?
Date: Tue Feb 27 11:10:03 2001
> also, is the GM screen worth buying, i know the summary on fasa's
web page says it has a book of creatures along with it but what do
you who have it think of it?
> Drew

I like the Critters book. It's got the major creatures updated for
3rd Ed., it's got all the powers, and it packs a lot of info into a
smaller space (accordingly, the amount of info is lessened and some
critters are cut). The screen itself is pretty standard.

====-Boondocker

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Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: cybertechnology?
Date: Tue Feb 27 13:25:01 2001
According to Poe Saoer, on Tue, 27 Feb 2001 the word on the street was...

> okay, i thought i saw something about this in a earlier post, but i don't
> remember for sure, but who knows where i could get my hand on
> Cybertechnology? it is realy the only book left that i need,a nd i can't
> find it anywhere...

The usual places, I would guess: internet auction sites, second-hand or old
books bins in game stores, and traders selling old game books at
conventions.

> also, is the GM screen worth buying, i know the summary on fasa's web page
> says it has a book of creatures along with it but what do you who have it
> think of it?

If you don't have a GM screen, and/or are in need of SR3 stats for
critters, then this is a fairly good buy, IMHO. If you already have a GM
screen and the Paranormal Animals books, though, you probably won't need
it, as all the critters book is _really_ useful for in that case are the
updated power descriptions, and there's not really much stopping you from
using the SRII-era powers in PAoE.

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Message no. 7
From: robertennew@*****.com.au (Robert Ennew)
Subject: cybertechnology
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 14:10:07 +1000 (EST)
I read in a newspaper (sunday telegraph:
Australia)that doctor's are in the finishing
test/trial stages of producing a what they called a
"bionic eye". It works just like a contact lense, It's
made from a silicon chip,copper plated, with something
like 14 electrodes to stimulate the nerves & iris to
give perfect 20/20 vision & light adjustment
(rectifieing colour blindness, perfect for me :) &
night blindness)for degenerative/& complete blindness
(from optical nerve damage) & found to be successful.
They're in the starting stages of testing & coming
up with similiar tech for people born blind, confident
in their success.

GZ

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