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Message no. 1
From: Bruce <gyro@********.CO.ZA>
Subject: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:11:26 +0200
Hello All

From "Underworld Sourcebook" Section "The Business of Crime"
subsection on Prostiution

The section speaks about a "neural cutoff" also called a "Shunt"
and specialised form of BTL ware that take sover the personality of
the shunted
This chip is called a "persona fix" chip

I presume that a chipjack is needed to house the chip or that it is
downloaded
into headware memory. The other ware is not detailed anywhere.

I presume a Pfix chip is similar to a standard beetle, except more
intracate + more expensive
We could fix cost at say ¥2000.

The cutoff is cyber and proposed stats follow

Type : Headware
Name : Neural Cutoff
Essence : 0,3
Cost : ¥12 000
Availabilty : 10/14days
Street Index : 2

The neural cutoff renders the shunter a passenger in its own body.
The pfix chip has limited applications and has a time limit too.
The more complex the desired actions, the shorter the chip duration.


Can anyone help with Legality Codes, please.?



BRUCE <gyro@********.co.za>
*Executive Engineer* *FrontLine Games*
Yo soy un disco quebrado
Yo tengo chicle en cerebro
sm:)e
Message no. 2
From: Lehlan Decker <DeckerL@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:39:56 -0500
<SNIP Person override chips>
Set the availbility and legal codes fairly high. These would
probably
be military grade issue if anything. If you like this idea, see
if you can find an old copy of the module dreamchipper.
It's been out of print for awhile. It deals with BTL like chips
that override a person, and give them enhanced abilities
as well.
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Message no. 3
From: K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:30:07 EST
In a message dated 11/16/1998 9:09:36 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
gyro@********.CO.ZA writes:


<snip stats and ideas of the PFix Shunt stuff>
> The neural cutoff renders the shunter a passenger in its own body.
> The pfix chip has limited applications and has a time limit too.
> The more complex the desired actions, the shorter the chip duration.
> Can anyone help with Legality Codes, please.?


I don't have my books handy, and I'm about to leave here anyway for a couple
of hours. I know it probably is going to have similar codes to what illicity
(type B?) cyberware is going to have now according to the texts. It would be
like paraphenalia that is required to use certain high-end drugs (like bongs
and such now are here).

-K
Message no. 4
From: Fade <runefo@***.UIO.NO>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:06:43 +0000
> <SNIP Person override chips>
> Set the availbility and legal codes fairly high. These would
> probably be military grade issue if anything.

It was in the subsection on 'prostitution'. So I doubt very much they
are military grade. In fact, it might well be quite common and easily
available - although illegal. I assume it is designed for two chips -
one for the PO chip and one for a simsense show or similar the
overridden watches in the meanwhile. (Or else they are 'unconscious'
? It seems designed so that a person can do a job they typically
find repulsive without having to experience it.). A typical item that
is hard to get officially but fairly easy on the streets. (Low street
index.).

It should include (low?) grade skillwires, I guess. Haven't got
ShadowBeat. Stupid me. Elaborate?

> If you like this idea, see
> if you can find an old copy of the module dreamchipper.
> It's been out of print for awhile. It deals with BTL like chips
> that override a person, and give them enhanced abilities
> as well.


SPOILER WARNING ON THREATS & DREAMCHIPPPER









... that oughta do.

The chips in Dreamchipper, IIRC; was an attempt by Winternight to
improve their 'berserker' chip (or else the first few test versions
of it.). And yes, it does enhance the abilities of the user, but with
harsh penalties. It's a cybernetic/chip version of the Kamikaze drug,
inducing massive endorphine/adrenaline overdoses, and these overdoses
assist in combat. It is not a general trait of PO chips nor generally
desireable. The effect is fairly unique to Winternight, as far as I
know.

--
Fade

And the Prince of Lies said:
"To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven."
-John Milton, Paradise Lost
Message no. 5
From: Lehlan Decker <DeckerL@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:26:17 -0500
<SNIP>
>one for the PO chip and one for a simsense show or similar the
>overridden watches in the meanwhile. (Or else they are
'>unconscious'
>? It seems designed so that a person can do a job they typically
>find repulsive without having to experience it.). A typical item that
>is hard to get officially but fairly easy on the streets. (Low street
>index.).
>It should include (low?) grade skillwires, I guess. Haven't got
>ShadowBeat. Stupid me. Elaborate?
Oops..I guess I misunderstood a bit. Now what your suggesting
sounds more like the chips that were in the book "When Gravity
Fails". I retract my arguments concerning the high availibility.

<SNIP DreamChipper>


SPOILER WARNING ON THREATS & DREAMCHIPPPER










<SNIP Winternight chips>
Dreamchipper was published ages before Threats, and
although your right about the chips being similiar, I don't
think the two modules were tied together. (Perhaps the folks
writing threats, got the idea from the dreamchipper module
and just extended it).
Either way, that type of chip would always have an appeal to
the military etc.

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Message no. 6
From: Bryan Covington <bryan.covington@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:20:03 -0500
> <SNIP Person override chips>
> Set the availbility and legal codes fairly high. These would
> probably
> be military grade issue if anything. If you like this idea, see
> if you can find an old copy of the module dreamchipper.
> It's been out of print for awhile. It deals with BTL like chips
> that override a person, and give them enhanced abilities
> as well.
>
I don't think military is what they were referring to. The
ones in Dreamchipper, those are milspec. The hooker chips are probably
pretty common. Remember Molly's description of her time as a chipped hooker
in Neuromancer?
Message no. 7
From: Lehlan Decker <DeckerL@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:36:21 -0500
<SNIP>
>I don't think military is what they were referring to. The
>ones in Dreamchipper, those are milspec. The hooker chips
>are probably
>pretty common. Remember Molly's description of her time as a
>chipped hooker in Neuromancer?
Yep, I realized that after I replied. Comes from too much
skim reading of email, while I'm at work.
I do remember Molly, and also a set of books that started with
one called "When Gravity Fails", which also had a cyberpunk
book made for it. In that they were called "moddies" or something
along those lines. So if you wanted to sleep with Marily Monroe,
you could find a hooker with the right "features" and moddy, and
you were set.

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Message no. 8
From: "D. Ghost" <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:52:44 -0600
On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:11:26 +0200 Bruce <gyro@********.CO.ZA> writes:
>Hello All
>
>From "Underworld Sourcebook" Section "The Business of Crime"
>subsection on Prostiution

Pages 19-20.

>The section speaks about a "neural cutoff" also called a "Shunt"
>and specialised form of BTL ware that take sover the personality ofthe
shunted
>This chip is called a "persona fix" chip

You know ... Until you brought this up, I thought the shunt was included
in the bunraku chip (which is entirely possible since Cyberdecks include
RAS cut-out through a datajack.)

>I presume that a chipjack is needed to house the chip or that it is
downloaded
>into headware memory. The other ware is not detailed anywhere.

BTLs can be specially modified to plug into datajacks and since this is a
variation of a datajack, I assume this option is available for bunraku
chips as well.

>I presume a Pfix chip is similar to a standard beetle, except more
>intracate + more expensive
>We could fix cost at say ¥2000.

That depends ... If the bunraku just includes the personality imitation,
then that's a bit pricey. If it includes the shunt and/or the skills for
the impersonation (Singing for Mariah Mercurial, for example.), then that
price is more justified.

NOTE: If the chip includes skills in addition to the base personality
patern, Skilwires may be required depending on the skill.

>The cutoff is cyber and proposed stats follow
>
>Type : Headware
>Name : Neural Cutoff
>Essence : 0,3
>Cost : ¥12 000
>Availabilty : 10/14days
>Street Index : 2
>
>The neural cutoff renders the shunter a passenger in its own body.
>The pfix chip has limited applications and has a time limit too.
>The more complex the desired actions, the shorter the chip duration.

If you want to make the Shunt cyber (not reccomended from a Yak bussiness
POV since the surgery recovery time could slow turn over rate for new
talent.), Then I'd make it a modification to the datajack. Make the cost
+50%, and make the essence cost +0.1

>Can anyone help with Legality Codes, please.?

In SR3:
For the bunraku chip: 3-Y
For the cyber shunt: 2-Y or 3-Y
In SR2:
For the bunraku chip: 3-MB
For the cyber shunt: 2-MB or 3-MB

Even though the text implies otherwise, I'd reccomend including the shunt
in the chip.

--
D. Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum, RuPixel)
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Message no. 9
From: Robert Watkins <robert.watkins@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:09:45 +1000
D. Ghost writes:
> >The section speaks about a "neural cutoff" also called a
"Shunt"
> >and specialised form of BTL ware that take sover the personality ofthe
> shunted
> >This chip is called a "persona fix" chip
>
> You know ... Until you brought this up, I thought the shunt was included
> in the bunraku chip (which is entirely possible since Cyberdecks include
> RAS cut-out through a datajack.)

I had imagined that these were similar to the early prototypes discussed in
the (out-of-print, first Ed) module "DreamChipper". In that, there were
persona chips that immersed the person in the persona totally, with no
additional hardware besides the chip (though skillwires were required to
live out the persona fully).

If anyone wants a fuller description, I'll pull the module off the shelf and
see what I can come up with.

--
.sig deleted to conserve electrons. robert.watkins@******.com
Message no. 10
From: Bruce <gyro@********.CO.ZA>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:26:40 +0200
-----Original Message-----
From: D. Ghost <dghost@****.COM>
To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET <SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET>
Date: 17 November 1998 12:55
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal


>On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:11:26 +0200 Bruce <gyro@********.CO.ZA>
writes:
>>Hello All
>>
>>From "Underworld Sourcebook" Section "The Business of Crime"
>>subsection on Prostiution
>
>Pages 19-20

Thanks . :)


<snip bunraku stuff>

>You know ... Until you brought this up, I thought the shunt was
included
>in the bunraku chip (which is entirely possible since Cyberdecks
include
>RAS cut-out through a datajack.)


I was thinking of a deeper level of cut out. Like a complete cutoff.

>>I presume that a chipjack is needed to house the chip or that it is
>downloaded
>>into headware memory. The other ware is not detailed anywhere.
>
>BTLs can be specially modified to plug into datajacks and since this
is a
>variation of a datajack, I assume this option is available for
bunraku
>chips as well.


<snip price idea>


>That depends ... If the bunraku just includes the personality
imitation,
>then that's a bit pricey. If it includes the shunt and/or the skills
for
>the impersonation (Singing for Mariah Mercurial, for example.), then
that
>price is more justified.

I read somewhere that a one shot BTL costs about 500 yen.
I based the price off this.


<snip cyberware stats>

>If you want to make the Shunt cyber (not reccomended from a Yak
bussiness
>POV since the surgery recovery time could slow turn over rate for new
>talent.), Then I'd make it a modification to the datajack. Make the
cost
>+50%, and make the essence cost +0.1


Nice idea. Thanks for the legality codes. So does everyone
agree that a piece of cyber is not neccessary? That would simplify
things immensely. Would give the Yaks a faster turn over too... :)

Any idea on life expectancy for the bunraku girls? I presume the
BTL would burn them out pretty fast.

¥0.02 BRUCE <gyro@********.co.za>
*Executive Engineer* *FrontLine Games*
Yo soy un disco quebrado
Yo tengo chicle en cerebro
sm:)e
Message no. 11
From: Anders Swenson <anders@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:34:35 -0800
Bryan Covington wrote:

> > <SNIP Person override chips>
> > Set the availbility and legal codes fairly high. These would
> > probably
> > be military grade issue if anything. If you like this idea, see
> > if you can find an old copy of the module dreamchipper.
> > It's been out of print for awhile. It deals with BTL like chips
> > that override a person, and give them enhanced abilities
> > as well.
> >
> I don't think military is what they were referring to. The
> ones in Dreamchipper, those are milspec. The hooker chips are probably
> pretty common. Remember Molly's description of her time as a chipped hooker
> in Neuromancer?

Gibson used that concept a lot. I believe it was first described in "Burning
Chrome".
--Anders
Message no. 12
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:04:08 +1000
> Bryan Covington wrote:
>
> > > <SNIP Person override chips>
> > > Set the availbility and legal codes fairly high. These would
> > > probably
> > > be military grade issue if anything. If you like this idea, see
> > > if you can find an old copy of the module dreamchipper.
> > > It's been out of print for awhile. It deals with BTL like chips
> > > that override a person, and give them enhanced abilities
> > > as well.
> > >
> > I don't think military is what they were referring
> to. The
> > ones in Dreamchipper, those are milspec. The hooker chips are
> probably
> > pretty common. Remember Molly's description of her time as a chipped
> hooker
> > in Neuromancer?
>
Actually, I wouldn't think they'd be common. What was probably being
suggested by the 'military grade issue' comment is that the chips would
be horrendously illegal. (I mean, really - something designed to
override your personality with another person's? Even the least paranoid
pollie (errr...that's politician) is likely to be freaked by the
possibility of being controlled by something like that and have them
outlawed.) The legality would be on a par with that of military grade
equipment. That's how I see it anyway.

And the reason why I don't think they'd be common? Well, basically,
they're too specialised. First of all, you have to get someone else's
personality it model it on (which would be hard for anyone famous, you
would think - I mean, you may be able to engineer an approximation using
what is public knowledge about that person, but getting an actual copy
of their personality?). Next, that personality is pretty useless (in the
hooker respect) without a heap of plastic surgery to make the prostitute
look like the person who'll be 'riding' him or her. After all, making it
with someone who looked and acted with Nadja Daviar would be a lot
different to making it with a troll who acted like Nadja Daviar - but
looked like a troll.

Then, if you assume that Bruce is right and that total personality
sublimation requires that expense too - well, it'd only be your pretty
unaverage (exceptional, even) brothel that could afford to offer this
kind of service. Which bears out what is written in the sourcebooks that
mention this kind of thing (Denver, I think and Underworld Sourcebook,
maybe?). The only times I've read about something like this, it's been
described as something outside the norm - which would tend to imply that
this is NOT a common technology.

Now, there may be other uses for that kind of chip, but I can't think of
one that isn't as specialised as the 'hooker' chip. (You think that a
chip designed to control people by sublimating their personality would
be cheaper or less illegal??)

At any rate, this is certainly BTL-equivalent technology, maybe even
2XS-equivalent - or worse. Uh-uh. Not common. Not by a long shot.

You may disagree with what I've said, but if you do, show me your
arguments. I'd like to hear why I'm wrong. (*snort*) Don't get me wrong,
I'm really an open-minded person (heh). Please, tell me why what I just
said would be absolutely wrong - I want to know (is anyone else laughing
yet?)

8-)

*Doc' finally gets a C4 enema for being such a smartass.*

Doc'

.sig Sauer
Message no. 13
From: Robert Watkins <robert.watkins@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:29:39 +1000
Ratinac writes:
> And the reason why I don't think they'd be common? Well, basically,
> they're too specialised. First of all, you have to get someone else's
> personality it model it on (which would be hard for anyone famous, you
> would think - I mean, you may be able to engineer an approximation using
> what is public knowledge about that person, but getting an actual copy
> of their personality?). Next, that personality is pretty useless (in the
> hooker respect) without a heap of plastic surgery to make the prostitute
> look like the person who'll be 'riding' him or her. After all, making it
> with someone who looked and acted with Nadja Daviar would be a lot
> different to making it with a troll who acted like Nadja Daviar - but
> looked like a troll.

You wouldn't want an exact copy for the main use you're after. Why would you
want your hooker to act like Nadja Daviar? Do you think Nadja Daviar is the
type of person who would work in a brothel? If not, why do you think your
employee, chipped to act as Nadja Daviar, would be willing to work in a
brothel while using the chip?

What you want is a simulation, and you could rig up one of those using
public data. It might be a bit , um, incomplete, but if you allow the
hooker's own personality to round out the personality imposed by the chip,
it would work.

Think of the chip as a specialised skillsoft: Special Skill: Impersonate
<Celebrity>

--
Duct tape is like the Force: There's a Light side, a Dark side, and it
binds the Universe together.
Robert Watkins -- robert.watkins@******.com
Message no. 14
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:42:48 +1000
> Ratinac writes:
> > And the reason why I don't think they'd be common? Well, basically,
> > they're too specialised. First of all, you have to get someone
> else's
> > personality it model it on (which would be hard for anyone famous,
> you
> > would think - I mean, you may be able to engineer an approximation
> using
> > what is public knowledge about that person, but getting an actual
> copy
> > of their personality?). Next, that personality is pretty useless (in
> the
> > hooker respect) without a heap of plastic surgery to make the
> prostitute
> > look like the person who'll be 'riding' him or her. After all,
> making it
> > with someone who looked and acted with Nadja Daviar would be a lot
> > different to making it with a troll who acted like Nadja Daviar -
> but
> > looked like a troll.
>
> You wouldn't want an exact copy for the main use you're after. Why
> would you want your hooker to act like Nadja Daviar? Do you think
> Nadja Daviar is the type of person who would work in a brothel? If
> not, why do you think your employee, chipped to act as Nadja Daviar,
> would be willing to work in a brothel while using the chip?
>
> What you want is a simulation, and you could rig up one of those using
> public data. It might be a bit , um, incomplete, but if you allow the
> hooker's own personality to round out the personality imposed by the
> chip, it would work.
>
> Think of the chip as a specialised skillsoft: Special Skill:
> Impersonate <Celebrity>
> Robert Watkins --
> robert.watkins@******.com
>
Okay, you may have a point there, Robert, although I think it'd be more
likely they'd want to get an exact copy and 'edit out' certain portions,
or put in certain controls that would deal with the issue you raised
than engineer one from scratch.

The other problem with your idea is that your hooker's personality CAN'T
'round out' the chip's personality, as you put it. As far as this
technology goes (or at least as far as it's been discussed), the chip
user's personality is COMPLETELY SUBLIMATED by that imposed by the chip.
You see what I'm saying? Maybe you could do it the way you suggested,
but I think that'd get even more expensive than it already is.

And that in no way invalidates my other concerns (cost of cyber (if
any), cost of plastic surgery, legality, demonstrated rarity of process
as extrapolated from official sources). Next?

*Doc' puts on his "I'm Gonna Win One Of These Bloody Arguments If It
Kills Me" expression.*

8-)

Doc'

.sig Sauer
Message no. 15
From: Micheal Feeney <Starrngr@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 00:50:34 EST
In a message dated 98-11-18 00:29:53 EST, you write:

> What you want is a simulation, and you could rig up one of those using
> public data. It might be a bit , um, incomplete, but if you allow the
> hooker's own personality to round out the personality imposed by the chip,
> it would work.
>
> Think of the chip as a specialised skillsoft: Special Skill: Impersonate
> <Celebrity>

This still implys that the hooker looks like whoever they are supposed to be
impersonating. Its still a case of what's the point of acting like Marylin
when you dont LOOK like maralyn..

I would asscribe another thought to these chips. Most of the chips used in
this sort of situation would be more general, personality wise. The whole
idea behind the chips is to "take over" and be a prostitue while the main
personality is away. It doesnt need to be a famous personality, but I could
see very elite brothels going to all that sort of trouble, for a hefty fee to
their clients.

For your basic "booty slinger chip" you would need something to block off the
base mind, and a second personality (Minimal) to do most of the work, plus a
bit of skillsofts / knowlege of what to do, how to do, where to and not to do
it, Etc.
Message no. 16
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:19:43 +1000
> I would asscribe another thought to these chips. Most of the chips
> used in this sort of situation would be more general, personality
> wise. The whole idea behind the chips is to "take over" and be a
> prostitue while the main personality is away. It doesnt need to be a
> famous personality, but I could see very elite brothels going to all
> that sort of trouble, for a hefty fee to their clients.
>
> For your basic "booty slinger chip" you would need something to block
> off the base mind, and a second personality (Minimal) to do most of
> the work, plus a bit of skillsofts / knowlege of what to do, how to
> do, where to and not to do it, Etc.
<Michael Feeney>

Woof, Mick. :)

Now this is a more feasible idea as far as I can see, but you still need
basically beautiful (or good looking at least) people (or athletic, or
limber, or whatever). And it still wouldn't be that common, because your
average, scumbag brothel is going to find it easier and cheaper to get
people who'll do this work without the chip than people who won't work
without the chip.

More elite brothels certainly might go in for something like this -
although they'd be more likely to go all the way and get the complete
personafix done.

Still, not a common item.

*Doc' wonders if New Zealand brothels will make a sheep personafix for
their prostitutes.*

Doc'

.sig Sauer
Message no. 17
From: Micheal Feeney <Starrngr@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 02:40:35 EST
In a message dated 98-11-18 01:19:47 EST, RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU
writes:

> Now this is a more feasible idea as far as I can see, but you still need
> basically beautiful (or good looking at least) people (or athletic, or
> limber, or whatever). And it still wouldn't be that common, because your
> average, scumbag brothel is going to find it easier and cheaper to get
> people who'll do this work without the chip than people who won't work
> without the chip.
>
> More elite brothels certainly might go in for something like this -
> although they'd be more likely to go all the way and get the complete
> personafix done.
>

And a Baa to you too, Doc.

In rebuttal, the Basic "BSC" would actually be quite popular, especially
amoungst white slave rings. I would expect it to be more along the lines of
Mid range - high class brothels, where the girls don't want to know what they
were doing while they were doing it.

Glad to see that we both agree that the ultra high priced places would go the
whole nine yards though. In all cases, the BTL part of the chip really is
important, as its the addiction to it that keeps the girls in line. "I cant
run away... Life is so dull when I'm not chipped in." sort of thing. same
reason why so many prostitutes in the US are drug addicts. It gives the pimps
a way of keeping them in line and working.

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Message no. 18
From: Bruce <gyro@********.CO.ZA>
Subject: Re: Cyberware Proposal
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:15:24 +0200
M. Feeney said
>In rebuttal, the Basic "BSC" would actually be quite popular,
especially
>amoungst white slave rings. I would expect it to be more along the
lines of
>Mid range - high class brothels, where the girls don't want to know
what they
>were doing while they were doing it.
>
>Glad to see that we both agree that the ultra high priced places
would go the
>whole nine yards though. In all cases, the BTL part of the chip
really is
>important, as its the addiction to it that keeps the girls in line.
"I cant
>run away... Life is so dull when I'm not chipped in." sort of thing.
same
>reason why so many prostitutes in the US are drug addicts. It gives
the pimps
>a way of keeping them in line and working.


About the "girls don't want to know what they were doing while they
were doing it"
idea. I was under the impression that the girls were not capable of
satisfying the
strange needs of the client. Thus they were equpeed with variuos
personas to
better meet the demand. IIRC there were "blushing schoolgirl" and
"dominatrix"
personas given as examples.

It was in the shadow comments that the plastic surgery bit came up.
Again IIRC.

What initially inspired me to bring ths up was other applications of
this tech.
Specialised personality along with memory blank. Anyone see
assassination
possibilities here?

¥0.02

BRUCE <gyro@********.co.za>
*Executive Engineer* *FrontLine Games*
Yo soy un disco quebrado
Yo tengo chicle en cerebro
sm:)e

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