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Message no. 1
From: davidb@****.imcprint.com (Graht)
Subject: D20 Shadowrun
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 14:30:09 -0600
At 02:01 PM 9/3/2002 -0500, Paul Grosse wrote:
>And to put this on topic, I have considered using the Shadowrun
>universe with the Modern d20 system, and another book that is coming
>out at the same time (If anyone wants to know go ahead and as me off
>list). Simply for the fact that my current group doesn't want to learn
>another system. Period end of statement. Which is what one player said
>to me.

Fair enough. If you're players only want to play D20, and you want to run
Shadowrun, then it makes perfect sense to try to convert Shadowrun to D20 :)

I periodically find myself think of how to convert Shadowrun to D20.

Taking classes into account is easy enough. Fighter (Street Sam, Ganger,
etc), Magician, Shaman, Adept, Rigger, Decker, and Thief. Define them by
class and cross-class skill sets, and class specific feats (especially the
Adept).

Skills are a piece of cake.

And then there's magic...

Other than figuring out that spells should be treated like skills, I
haven't gotten any farther. And I haven't figured out how to handle
drain. There are a couple of D20 conversions on the web, but in my opinion
none of them have dealt with this effectively.

Decking is easy, as it's skill based.

Rigging is pretty easy.

Equipment conversion would take a while. You might want to check out Star
Wars D20 for ideas (I also think I heard there are other D20 systems with
guns).

In general I would recommend checking out every D20 system that comes out
for ideas. The Everquest RPG, for example, has good weapon delay/haste
rules that could be applied to wired reflexes and the like.

Good luck with it. Please let me know what you come up with to handle Drain :)

To Life,
-Graht
ShadowRN Assistant Fearless Leader II
http://www.graht.com
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Message no. 2
From: anders@**********.com (Anders Swenson)
Subject: D20 Shadowrun
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 13:38:29 -0700
On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 14:30:09 -0600
Graht <davidb@****.imcprint.com> wrote:
> At 02:01 PM 9/3/2002 -0500, Paul Grosse wrote:
> >And to put this on topic, I have considered using the Shadowrun
> >universe with the Modern d20 system,

[snip]
>
> Good luck with it. Please let me know what you come up with to
> handle Drain :)
>
There are also classless D20 solutions out there. I've heard rumors
about which big game design outfit is gonna do SR D20, but to mention
names would, by all indications, start a big flame war, so I won't do
that.
--Anders
Message no. 3
From: davidb@****.imcprint.com (Graht)
Subject: D20 Shadowrun
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 14:49:31 -0600
At 01:38 PM 9/3/2002 -0700, Anders Swenson wrote:
>On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 14:30:09 -0600
> Graht <davidb@****.imcprint.com> wrote:
> > At 02:01 PM 9/3/2002 -0500, Paul Grosse wrote:
> > >And to put this on topic, I have considered using the Shadowrun
> > >universe with the Modern d20 system,
>
>[snip]
> >
> > Good luck with it. Please let me know what you come up with to
> > handle Drain :)
> >
>There are also classless D20 solutions out there. I've heard rumors
> about which big game design outfit is gonna do SR D20, but to mention
> names would, by all indications, start a big flame war, so I won't do
> that.

I don't know. At that point I think you should go out and by GURPS :)

To Life,
-Graht
ShadowRN Assistant Fearless Leader II
http://www.graht.com
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Message no. 4
From: belgand@**************.com (Mark M. Smith)
Subject: D20 Shadowrun
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 11:54:09 -0500
>>I've heard rumors about which big game design outfit is gonna do SR D20,
>>but to mention names would, by all indications, start a big flame war, so
>>I won't do that.

Satan perhaps? Microsoft? The Illuminati? There's no possible reason to try
and convert everything on Earth into TSR ^B ^B ^B WOTC's horrible idea
other than to attempt to line their own pockets with a poorly written
format that's barely even adequate to run the current mangling of AD&D rules.


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Mark M. Smith
belgand@**************.com

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Message no. 5
From: anders@**********.com (Anders Swenson)
Subject: D20 Shadowrun
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:24:51 -0700
On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 11:54:09 -0500
"Mark M. Smith" <belgand@**************.com> wrote:
>
> >>I've heard rumors about which big game design outfit is gonna do SR
> D20, but to mention names would, by all indications, start a big
> flame war, so I won't do that.
>
> Satan perhaps? Microsoft? The Illuminati? There's no possible reason
> to try and convert everything on Earth into TSR ^B ^B ^B WOTC's
> horrible idea other than to attempt to line their own pockets with a
> poorly written format that's barely even adequate to run the current
> mangling of AD&D rules.
> Mark M. Smith
> belgand@**************.com

See what I mean?
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Message no. 6
From: dmhyde@***.net (Derek Hyde)
Subject: D20 Shadowrun
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:00:41 -0500
> See what I mean?
> --Anders --

yes yes, I see I see.....of course what I really see I'm not allowed to
say on this list cause it's a flame from hell at the person that you
replied to there Anders, just take my word for it, there's enough people
in the town that we both are in that would so direly like to take him
out and ....oh wait, this isn't list related....sorry everyone!
Message no. 7
From: davidb@****.imcprint.com (Graht)
Subject: D20 Shadowrun
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 13:57:22 -0600
At 02:00 PM 9/4/2002 -0500, Derek Hyde wrote:

> > See what I mean?
> > --Anders --
>
>yes yes, I see I see.....of course what I really see I'm not allowed to
>say on this list cause it's a flame from hell at the person that you
>replied to there Anders, just take my word for it, there's enough people
>in the town that we both are in that would so direly like to take him
>out and ....oh wait, this isn't list related....sorry everyone!

Derek,

http://www.bulldrek.com/

Have fun :)

To Life,
-Graht
ShadowRN Assistant Fearless Leader II
http://www.graht.com
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