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Message no. 1
From: Damion Milliken <milko@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Damaging Illusion Spells
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:50:05 +1000
Alfredo B Alves writes:

> Hmmm... what about a mental Illusion spell? Target specific. The target
> THINKS he/she's in combat when actuality he/she is just sitting/standing
> there drooling and damage whether its an illusion of an mundane
> grasshopper getting medeival on you @$$, or a juggernaught is then same
> (Spell baought at a damge level making this a sustained Damaging
> Manipulation with some funky game effects ...)

This is the way I imagine such spells as Agonizing Pain and Overstimulation
and the like actually working in some ways. While not as blatantly obvious
about just how the agonising pain or such occurs, this is a potential
roleplaying aspect that could be played out. OTOH, a spell that is similar
to these spells (in that it temporarily fills in the condition monitor while
sustained) and has the imagery of the target getting the drek beat out of
them by a 12 foot grasshopper in chain and leather would be quite workable
as far as I can see. :-)

--
Damion Milliken University of Wollongong
Unofficial Shadowrun Guru E-mail: milko@***.edu.au
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Message no. 2
From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Damaging Illusion Spells
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:42:19 -0500
On Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:50:05 +1000 Damion Milliken <milko@***.EDU.AU>
writes:
>Alfredo B Alves writes:
>> Hmmm... what about a mental Illusion spell? Target specific. The
target
>> THINKS he/she's in combat when actuality he/she is just
sitting/standing
>> there drooling and damage whether its an illusion of an mundane
>> grasshopper getting medeival on you @$$, or a juggernaught is then
same
>> (Spell baought at a damge level making this a sustained Damaging
>> Manipulation with some funky game effects ...)

>This is the way I imagine such spells as Agonizing Pain and
Overstimulation
>and the like actually working in some ways. While not as blatantly
obvious
>about just how the agonising pain or such occurs, this is a potential
>roleplaying aspect that could be played out. OTOH, a spell that is
similar
>to these spells (in that it temporarily fills in the condition monitor
while
>sustained) and has the imagery of the target getting the drek beat out
of
>them by a 12 foot grasshopper in chain and leather would be quite
workable
>as far as I can see. :-)
>
>--
>Damion Milliken
<SNIP>

Actually, I was thinking of a spell that actually does damage (ie when
the spell is gone, the damage is still there) ... and the imagery I was
thinking of was a tiny grasshopper inflicting serious wounds and a giant
Behemoth inflicting only light :)

D.Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum, and RuPixel)
"Let he who is without SIN cast the first stone"

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Message no. 3
From: K is the Symbol <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Damaging Illusion Spells
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:41:52 EDT
In a message dated 6/29/98 4:48:05 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
dghost@****.COM writes:

> Actually, I was thinking of a spell that actually does damage (ie when
> the spell is gone, the damage is still there) ... and the imagery I was
> thinking of was a tiny grasshopper inflicting serious wounds and a giant
> Behemoth inflicting only light :)
>
We have a House Rule available to Intiates, as well as an entire type of
"Elementality" for Illusion magic in general.

it's called "Phantasm" (yes, we stole it, so bite ME). It gives a semblance
of reality to an Illusion, allowing said material to be at least partially
tangible. From the damaging POV...

Melee Weapons do a damage code less than they do were they "real."
Animals/Monsters with Phantasm additives are treated the same, with their
strength and the like being reduced in one fatigue shift (they get strength in
kilograms, no strain, Strx5=L, Strx10=M, Strx15=S, with Str in D6 for bonus
beyond that and sorcery tests made throughout to keep the illusion in it's
tangible state using the L/M/S modifiers for strength fatigue as sustaining
modifiers for the magic).

But, as I said, we have some major House Rules, more than we need probably,
but oh well...

-K

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