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Message no. 1
From: Dust <rogan@******.ORG>
Subject: Datajacks in Shadowtech
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:27:37 -0800
Datajacks in Shadowtech have different downloading speeds. Does this have
any bearing on VR2 rules? There is no where in VR2 that says that higher
speed datajacks would help so do you just use the datajacks in SR2? or do
you use the slowest one in Shadowtech?

Any clarification would be appreciated,

Dust
Message no. 2
From: Da Twink Daddy <twinkie@*******.DMSC.K12.AR.US>
Subject: Re: Datajacks in Shadowtech
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:08:02 -0600
-----Original Message-----
From: Dust <rogan@******.ORG>


>Datajacks in Shadowtech have different downloading speeds. Does this have
>any bearing on VR2 rules? There is no where in VR2 that says that higher
>speed datajacks would help so do you just use the datajacks in SR2? or do
>you use the slowest one in Shadowtech?
>
>Any clarification would be appreciated,
>
>Dust

They seem only to apply to using skillsofts though a datajack (which some
ppl don't even like)

They matter for cranial decks because the deck's bandwidth is limited by the
bandwidth of the jack.

AFAIK, they don't matter for normal deckin' You might make a rule however
that a decker can't use responce increase on his deck greater than (datajack
lv)-1 Because the decker can't send his thoughts through the dtajack fast
enough to use all the processing power of the deck.

Yes, a decker could have a lv 3 response and a lv 2 jack but he'd only get
2d6 init (before reality filters and hot assist)

Note: the above is not canon and should not be construed as such.

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Message no. 3
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Datajacks in Shadowtech
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:30:16 EST
In a message dated 98-03-13 14:26:01 EST, rogan@******.ORG writes:

> Datajacks in Shadowtech have different downloading speeds. Does this have
> any bearing on VR2 rules? There is no where in VR2 that says that higher
> speed datajacks would help so do you just use the datajacks in SR2? or do
> you use the slowest one in Shadowtech?

That all depends. Think of it this way.

How is the decker connected to the matrix? Is it Decker-Deck-Matrix or
Deck-Decker-Matrix?

That would determine the "download speeds". If it's the first, you use the
I/O speeds of the deck. If it's the second, you use the Datajack speeds.

-K
Message no. 4
From: Ashlocke <woneal@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: Datajacks in Shadowtech
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:57:33 -0005
On 13 Mar 98 at 14:27, Dust wrote:

> Datajacks in Shadowtech have different downloading speeds. Does this
> have any bearing on VR2 rules? There is no where in VR2 that says that
> higher speed datajacks would help so do you just use the datajacks in
> SR2? or do you use the slowest one in Shadowtech?
>
> Any clarification would be appreciated,
>
They don't affect a regular deck, but they do control the maximum
transfer rate (I/O Speed) of a cranial deck. The reference in VR2 about
cranial decks says to check SRII for more info, that's a misprint, the
page reference is for ShadowTech, the page numbers are correct though.

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Message no. 5
From: Robert Watkins <robert.watkins@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Datajacks in Shadowtech
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:29:14 +1000
Dust writes:
>Datajacks in Shadowtech have different downloading speeds. Does this have
>any bearing on VR2 rules? There is no where in VR2 that says that higher
>speed datajacks would help so do you just use the datajacks in SR2? or do
>you use the slowest one in Shadowtech?
>
>Any clarification would be appreciated,

I can't remember _where_ in VR2 it's mentioned, but the load rating is used
(for transferring programs and data, I think). Different datajacks have
different load ratings.

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Message no. 6
From: Czar Eggbert <czregbrt@*********.EDU>
Subject: Re: Datajacks in Shadowtech
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:45:30 -0600
On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Ereskanti wrote:

> In a message dated 98-03-13 14:26:01 EST, rogan@******.ORG writes:
>
> > Datajacks in Shadowtech have different downloading speeds. Does this have
> > any bearing on VR2 rules? There is no where in VR2 that says that higher
> > speed datajacks would help so do you just use the datajacks in SR2? or do
> > you use the slowest one in Shadowtech?

Reall the cool datajacks in ST were mostly for C^2 decks to determen the
I/O speeds. They are also used in Rigger 2 for sensor tests... I think
every level over 2 gives a bonus die for sensor tests.

-=> Czar

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Message no. 7
From: Da Twink Daddy <twinkie@*******.DMSC.K12.AR.US>
Subject: Re: Datajacks in Shadowtech
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:40:13 -0600
-----Original Message-----
From: Czar Eggbert <czregbrt@*********.EDU>


>> > Datajacks in Shadowtech have different downloading speeds. Does this
have
>> > any bearing on VR2 rules? There is no where in VR2 that says that
higher
>> > speed datajacks would help so do you just use the datajacks in SR2? or
do
>> > you use the slowest one in Shadowtech?
>
>Reall the cool datajacks in ST were mostly for C^2 decks to determen the
>I/O speeds. They are also used in Rigger 2 for sensor tests... I think
>every level over 2 gives a bonus die for sensor tests.


Sorry, I've been gone for a few days or I would've been more active right
now I'm still wading through my 300+ mails.

In my interpretation of the rules about decking you have Decker - Deck -
Matrix connection even in the case of the C2 decks. C2 decks are limited by
the bandwidth of the datajack (as are normal decks, but increasing the I/O
speed on them also entails upgrading thier "datajack(s)"). This applies to
the Deck/Matrix connection. Now, not much bandwidth is going from Decker to
Deck (Simple instructions) but, from Deck to Decker (similar to Rigger
adaption - Rigger connection) a LOT of data (Full-X level Simsense, IIRC)
passes by, for normal functions the deck (even hot decks) "water down" or
"simplify" the ASSIST interface so that it con travel in real time through
such a small bandwidth, if a higher bandwidth is available (Read: lv 2+) the
environment "surrounding" the decker will be that much more detailed (Read:
any sensor test ['cept sensor damage tests like from a blinder(?) IC] will
receive an extra di for each multiple above 1 normal bandwidth actual
bandwidth is.)

If you ddin't get that, here's something simple. Assuming that normal
bandwidth is the datajack from SR2 (DFR 25) datajacks from ST would get the
following bonuses to sensor tests.

lv 1, +0 dice
lv 2, +1 di
lv 3, +2 dice
lv 4, +3 dice

IMC, If I used this rule (no deckers, yet) I'd use (50 DFR) as the base for
hot decks (25 for cool decks -- use rules as above) and give the following
bonuses/penalties:

lv 1, -1 di
lv 2, +0 dice
lv 3 or 4, +1 di

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