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Message no. 1
From: Lucifer <MFISHER@*****.VINU.EDU>
Subject: decker bashing
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 13:00:37 EST
Over the past couple of weeks I have noticed a pattern of decker
bashing. In truth, this is not fair. If you think about it, deckers are
potentially the most powerful characters in the game. What is running
the shadows all about? Making money! How complete would any
shadow team be without a decker? Who would go into the matrix to
obtain information (which on the streets is as good as money) or
break into bank accounts (which IS money)? On a run, who would jack
into the security system to shut down security and insure that the run
goes alot smoother? The answer is a decker. So next time you get the
urge to use a decker for target practice, think how empty your shadow
team would be without one.


It's not Death if you refuse it, it is if you accept it.
Lucifer
Prince of Darkness, Eater of Souls

"My dream was past, it had no further change
that the doom of these two creatures should be
thus traced out.
Almost like reality, one to end in madness
both in misery." Byron
Message no. 2
From: "Wesley W. Walker" <wwalker@****.UARK.EDU>
Subject: Re: decker bashing
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 21:52:57 -0600
Lucifer wrote:
^^^^^^^
Errr... yeah, whatever rocks your boat.

> Over the past couple of weeks I have noticed a pattern of decker
> bashing. In truth, this is not fair. If you think about it, deckers are
> potentially the most powerful characters in the game.

Duh... I thought we established that after these last few months.. jeeze.

> What is running the shadows all about?

Having fun? Politics? Being a social degenerate.. and loving it..? =)

> Making money!

That too.. :)

> How complete would any shadow team be without a decker?

Depends on the shadow team, don't it. What's a combat mercenary troop
need with a decker in the middle of the jungle.. Yeah yeah.. satelite
links etc etc... but during the mission, in the jungle..

> Who would go into the matrix to obtain information (which on the
> streets is as good as money) or break into bank accounts (which IS
> money)?

I knew that... he knew that.. everyone here knew that. :P As for money,
just *bap* someone on the head and -take- it.. It's not at all a new
concept, you know... :P :)

> On a run, who would jack into the security system to shut down security
> and insure that the run goes alot smoother? The answer is a decker.

We already established that. I think even before all of this hoopla..

> So next time you get the urge to use a decker for target practice,
> think how empty your shadow team would be without one.

We will, then some guy's going to say something inflamatory again, at the
bottom of his post, in a short sentence, that provides a circumstance where
deckers are not particularly useful and everyone's going to go ape shit,
take it *WAY* out of context and then they'll and hop on the for and
against bandwagons and waste a lot of DB space.

IMHO, we gotta face it, the decker is a part of the game. So are mages, etc
etc.. Let's get to new stuff... (Please... no...no, not particle
accelerators again and kilotons and stuff that is pretty pointless in
the game.. Okay? I'm not letting characters use one... They'll not like
it if *I* use one.. so what's the point? There isn't one, but I'm off
topic. =) )

Let's not dig up the corpsed husks of these long dead or stillborn topics
and get to some interesting stuff..

> It's not Death if you refuse it, it is if you accept it.
> Lucifer
> Prince of Darkness, Eater of Souls

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... I'll resist... just this once.. for a little, I'll
resist... >:(

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- Wes W. Walker (wwalker@****.uark.edu) * "Truth is well disguised lie and -
- CSCI Major and General Slave * never immediately apparent." -
- Artiste Wanna-be (accepting donations)* -Me -
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Message no. 3
From: Lucifer <MFISHER@*****.VINU.EDU>
Subject: Re: decker bashing
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 18:29:29 EST
Well, it appears Mr. Walker did not appreciate the things I had to say.
What a pity. I only felt that I was bringing up a valid point. If I offend, I
apologize (just a little). My point was that deckers are more useful
than most often given credit for. By the by, if anyone has a soul for
sale, do let me know.


It's not Death if you refuse it, it is if you accept it.
Lucifer
Prince of Darkness, Eater of Souls

"My dream was past, it had no further change
that the doom of these two creatures should be
thus traced out.
Almost like reality, one to end in madness
both in misery." Byron
Message no. 4
From: Stefan Struck <struck@******.INFORMATIK.UNI-BONN.DE>
Subject: Re: decker bashing
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 13:05:46 +0100
Lucifer writes:
> Over the past couple of weeks I have noticed a pattern of decker
> bashing. In truth, this is not fair. If you think about it, deckers are
> potentially the most powerful characters in the game. What is running
> the shadows all about? Making money! How complete would any
> shadow team be without a decker? Who would go into the matrix to
> obtain information (which on the streets is as good as money) or
> break into bank accounts (which IS money)? On a run, who would jack
> into the security system to shut down security and insure that the run
> goes alot smoother? The answer is a decker. So next time you get the
> urge to use a decker for target practice, think how empty your shadow
> team would be without one.
>
Give this man a cigar.
The most powerful player in my group is a decker and I think he likes
to be called useless... you better watch your bank-account, or your
criminal record ... or ...
Stefan
Message no. 5
From: "Thomas W. Craig" <Craigtw1@***.COM>
Subject: Re: decker bashing
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 07:23:18 -0500
A decker has the potential to be good outside the Matrix as well, if you
manage your characters resources. I have a decker (with a C^2 deck) and he
can hold his own outside the Matrix. A decker with a regular deck has an
even greater chance of being able to work well outside the Matrix. Since
they only lose the essence for the datajack, they can be loaded with other
cyberware, and eventually be the equivalent of a chipped sami. Don't forget
about bioware either.
Later,
Tom Craig
Message no. 6
From: "Wesley W. Walker" <wwalker@****.UARK.EDU>
Subject: Re: decker bashing
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 11:17:51 -0600
Lucifer wrote:

> Well, it appears Mr. Walker did not appreciate the things I had to say.
> What a pity. I only felt that I was bringing up a valid point. If I offend, I
> apologize (just a little). My point was that deckers are more useful
> than most often given credit for. By the by, if anyone has a soul for
> sale, do let me know.

Oh, no no no.. You misunderstand.. I actually think that the
decker is a very influential character in the game (re: my earlier posts
on this topic..), but the discussion is dead... and hopefully will stay
buried. I do not mean to offend, mein herr. <-- sorry, couldn't resist.

Sig Hail, Lord Lucifer! Let's see DoomIII where we go Lucifer's
house and shoot him up into swiss cheese, cut him up with our imperial
chainsaw and lay him over ham on rye..


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- Wes W. Walker (wwalker@****.uark.edu) * "Truth is well disguised lie and -
- CSCI Major and General Slave * never immediately apparent." -
- Artiste Wanna-be (accepting donations)* -Me -
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