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Message no. 1
From: Mongoose <evamarie@**********.NET>
Subject: Dekers talkin trash and "ruining lives"
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 14:05:38 -0700
>> Think about the havoc a top notch decker can do to a man, and more
>> importantly, his personal and financial life, and his reputation?
>> NEVER piss off a decker... Any other "archetype" can kill you... A
Decker
>> will make you miserable for the rest of your life...


Not to be a jerk to those who play deckers, but I'm SO sick of hearing
this hoary cliche- every freaking dweeb or wanna be d00d (and not all Decker
players fall in these categories) who plays a Decker talks this trash. My
response; "OOOH, I'm shaking in my non existent SIN- no, not a bad credit
rating, anything but that!".
Sure, they can make your bureaucratic and official life hell, and post
your face all over the place and trash your rep. How many deckers are doing
that, and who the fuck is gonna listen to all those whiney bit-heads? They
make themselves look bad.
Anybody with some good connections can place a few phonecalls, drop a few
photo's, and spread the word about a runner almost as well, and with a higher
probability of somebody giving a rats ass. Thats partly the benefit of being
an elite (insert runner type here)- unless you're so feeble, you never got any
contacts or etiquette skill (and then you ain't elite). What, the decker
wrecked your phone, and you can't get another? And you call yourself a
runner?
Any old putz can turn snitch or stab you in the back socially or
financially. Of course, if a friend of yours gets ratted out or otherwise
screwed from the inside corner, see how many teams will work with you, even if
its not your fault... I've noticed that REAL hackers who play deckers seem to
know this, and the one thing they WON'T boast about being able to do is ruin
some other runners life.
Corps have deckers. Those deckers get pissed at runners- its their job.
If deckers were anti-runner "magic bullets", the corps would own the runners.
They don't, therefore a shdowrunner's life is not ruined by having a decker
mad at him.

Mongoose
Message no. 2
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Dekers talkin trash and "ruining lives"
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:57:08 -0400
At 02:05 PM 8/19/98 -0700, Mongoose wrote these timeless words:
>>> Think about the havoc a top notch decker can do to a man, and more
>>> importantly, his personal and financial life, and his reputation?
>>> NEVER piss off a decker... Any other "archetype" can kill you...
A
Decker
>>> will make you miserable for the rest of your life...

> Not to be a jerk to those who play deckers, but I'm SO sick of hearing
>this hoary cliche- every freaking dweeb or wanna be d00d (and not all Decker
>players fall in these categories) who plays a Decker talks this trash. My
>response; "OOOH, I'm shaking in my non existent SIN- no, not a bad credit
>rating, anything but that!".
> Sure, they can make your bureaucratic and official life hell, and post
>your face all over the place and trash your rep. How many deckers are doing
>that, and who the fuck is gonna listen to all those whiney bit-heads? They
>make themselves look bad.
> Anybody with some good connections can place a few phonecalls, drop a few
>photo's, and spread the word about a runner almost as well, and with a higher
>probability of somebody giving a rats ass. Thats partly the benefit of
being
>an elite (insert runner type here)- unless you're so feeble, you never got
any
>contacts or etiquette skill (and then you ain't elite). What, the decker
>wrecked your phone, and you can't get another? And you call yourself a
>runner?
> Any old putz can turn snitch or stab you in the back socially or
>financially. Of course, if a friend of yours gets ratted out or otherwise
>screwed from the inside corner, see how many teams will work with you,
even if
>its not your fault... I've noticed that REAL hackers who play deckers
seem to
>know this, and the one thing they WON'T boast about being able to do is ruin
>some other runners life.
> Corps have deckers. Those deckers get pissed at runners- its their job.
>If deckers were anti-runner "magic bullets", the corps would own the
runners.
>They don't, therefore a shdowrunner's life is not ruined by having a decker
>mad at him.
>
Woah Mongoose... Chill...

I said that as a joke, mostly... and in this case, it's a heck of a lot
more detailed than a simple "SINless Runner".

In Mr. WHite's case, he has (or had) a SIN, and has done his best to remove
all traces of it, and his past, and all links... The character is
basically what I call a Munch/Maxer... Part Munchkin, part Number
crunching Min/Maxer... He's done his best to remove "all ties" and
weaknesses... and he's made the mistake of having my character do a lot of
that work over the years...

In our recent game session, Mr. White "Killed" Bull's partner, Johnny 99...
So some revenge is in order... And this is it... In this case, killing
the charavcter is the easiest way out... letting all of Whitey's MANY
enemies and advesaries know everything about him, from his blkood type to
his ex-girlfriends to every hideout the character has to his mother's
address is the cruelest thing I could do, because that's something the
character has been doing his best to erase since day one.

Not every character is a simple SINless street scum. And a lot of
characters have secrets that they don't want let out, secrets that if they
don;t outright destroy the character, will make his/her life miserable for
a while till the character can reestablish himself somewhere else. And if
you're playing a character that's about 3 years old, and survived a lot of
hell (especially Tinner's brand of hell) and made a lot of enemies.

That's not saying a decker can actually find all that out, but they have
the best chance out of any other type of character, eh?

Anyways, dude... Chill :]

<grin>

Bull
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