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Message no. 1
From: Mercenary X <kdye@*****.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 20:03:15 -0700
I got the denver sourcebox today, wow, reserve yours today. Questions?

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Message no. 2
From: John Moeller <John.Moeller@*.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 21:41:07 -0600
On Sat, 13 Aug 1994, Mercenary X wrote:
> I got the denver sourcebox today, wow, reserve yours today. Questions
?

I already have. I'm waiting to accumulate enough funds to purchase it.

John IV
Message no. 3
From: John Fox <johnf@*****.EDU>
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 01:22:29 -0500
> I got the denver sourcebox today, wow, reserve yours today. Questions?

Yeah, what passes did you get? I got Ute and Pueblo. Sight unseen, I
would probably like Aztlan and CAS. NAN is pretty boring.

The "big news" is that apparently magic and tech aren't mutually
exclusive any more. At least that's what I got out of that shadotalk int
the Nexus section. BTW, the Nexus section mentions the Electronic Freedom
Foundation or whatever, as well as the Internet.

John Fox
johnf@*****.edu
Message no. 4
From: Bitrunner@***.COM
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 11:46:16 EDT
i got a UCAS pass and a Travel Access (Unrestricted) for the Sioux nation...

but here's another question for everyone out there:
the back of the box mentions just the big downtown map; the player's book
says the set comes with seven maps; MY box however came with the downtown
map, and also two copies of a Denver Sector Map (both are identical, as far
as i can tell)...

what's the deal? anyone know just how many maps and what they are supposed to
be?

Anyone interested in selling their passes?
Message no. 5
From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 19:36:05 -0400
>>>>> "Bitrunner" == Bitrunner <Bitrunner@***.COM> writes:

Bitrunner> what's the deal? anyone know just how many maps and what they
Bitrunner> are supposed to be?

Dunnow (I don't plan on getting the beastie myself), but if you think it's
defective (ie, missing parts) then take it back to the place you bought it
and ask them about it. And if it is defective then get it replaced or get a
refund.

--
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Message no. 6
From: Mercenary X <kdye@*****.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 18:40:48 -0700
I got UCAS and Siuox nation.

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Message no. 7
From: Mercenary X <kdye@*****.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 18:44:30 -0700
If you look in the book, at the descriptions of the sectors, they
have maps of the sectors in there, I don't know if thats it or not. In
mine all I got was the big downtown map, players and GMS guides. You
said you got another seperate map????? ???? ??

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Message no. 8
From: Bitrunner@***.COM
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 08:22:04 EDT
Merc X writes:

> In mine all I got was the big downtown map, players and GMS
> guides. You said you got another seperate map??

yep, i got two copies of a Denver Sector Map...large scale view (in color)
which covers all six sections with a scale of about 10 miles to the
inch...the downtown area covers a section about 2.5 square inches...map shows
major highways and major large streets...
Message no. 9
From: Mercenary X <kdye@*****.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:28:12 -0700
Will shit, mines defective!!! O well..I bought it at a mall,
what do yuo expect.

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Message no. 10
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@****.CAIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 20:57:09 -0400
On Sun, 14 Aug 1994, Mercenary X wrote:

> I got UCAS and Siuox nation.
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>
STANDARDIZED REPLY FORM
(stimulated by a work by David Parsons)


Dear

[ ] jerk [X] nitwit [ ] ignorant fool [ ] nerd
[ ] computer geek [ ] sycophant [ ] mindless automaton [ ] sports fan

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It was (check all that apply):

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___ An amazing display of ignorance.

_X_ Proof that not all same size bit collections contain the same
amount of information.

___ Much longer than warranted by the facts and reasoning it contained.

___ A senseless continuation of a boring and useless off-topic thread.

___ A "test" that wasted everyone's bandwidth, storage and time. If you
feel the need to "test" your software at least include something of
value.

___ A request for an article which was posted at least three times in
the past week alone.


Your attention is drawn to the fact that:

___ what you said/posted has been said/posted before. Many times.
___ It was done better the last time.
___ your post/letter was a pathetic imitation of _______________________.
___ your post contained commercial advertising.
THE FINE FOR THIS IS $20. Please remit immediately to:
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___ your post/letter contained multiple grammatical errors.
_X_ you seem to be unfamiliar with the concept of the paragraph.
___ YOUR POST CONTAINED EXCESSIVE CAPITALIZATION AND/OR PUNCTUATION!!!!!
___ you quoted an article/letter in followup and added no new text.
___ you quoted ___ lines of article/letter in followup and only
added ___ lines of new text.
___ you quoted an article in followup and only added the line "Me, too!!!"
___ you quoted out of context in an attempt to twist meanings/intentions.
___ You didn't fool anyone (no one that matters anyway).
_X_ you did not quote at all.
___ you plagarized the thoughts and/or words of another.
___ They said it better.
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___ you predicted the "Imminent Death of the Net[tm]".
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___ a Dan Quayle joke (apparently becuase you thought it was
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___ You have greatly misunderstood the purpose of the net.

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___ stop reading Usenet news and get a life.
___ stop sending email and get a life.
_X_ eat dye and shit colors.


Additional comments:

Though my points are valid, please not that I replied in this
fashion in order to show that it is sorta tongue-in-cheek. *grin*
Message no. 11
From: Mercenary X <kdye@*****.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 20:12:23 -0700
> STANDARDIZED REPLY FORM
> (stimulated by a work by David Parsons)
>
>
> Dear
>
> [ ] jerk [X] nitwit [ ] ignorant fool [ ] nerd
> [ ] computer geek [ ] sycophant [ ] mindless automaton [ ] sports fan
>
> I took exception to your recent ___ post to _____________________________.
> (newsgroup)
> _X_ email to ___SHADOWRN_________________.
> (mailing list)
>
>
> It was (check all that apply):
>
> ___ Poorly executed.
>
> ___ An amazing display of ignorance.
>
> _X_ Proof that not all same size bit collections contain the same
> amount of information.
>
> ___ Much longer than warranted by the facts and reasoning it contained.
>
> ___ A senseless continuation of a boring and useless off-topic thread.
>
> ___ A "test" that wasted everyone's bandwidth, storage and time. If you
> feel the need to "test" your software at least include something of
> value.
>
> ___ A request for an article which was posted at least three times in
> the past week alone.
>
>
> Your attention is drawn to the fact that:
>
> ___ what you said/posted has been said/posted before. Many times.
> ___ It was done better the last time.
> ___ your post/letter was a pathetic imitation of _______________________.
> ___ your post contained commercial advertising.
> THE FINE FOR THIS IS $20. Please remit immediately to:
> Consolidated Acme Solutions House (just use the acronym..
.)
> Network Standards Enforcement Office
> 1313 Mockingbird Way
> Metropolis, IL 60016
> or your posting privileges may be cancelled.
> _X_ your post/letter contained numerous spelling errors.
> ___ your post/letter contained multiple grammatical errors.
> _X_ you seem to be unfamiliar with the concept of the paragraph.
> ___ YOUR POST CONTAINED EXCESSIVE CAPITALIZATION AND/OR PUNCTUATION!!!!!
> ___ you quoted an article/letter in followup and added no new text.
> ___ you quoted ___ lines of article/letter in followup and only
> added ___ lines of new text.
> ___ you quoted an article in followup and only added the line "Me, too!!!"
> ___ you quoted out of context in an attempt to twist meanings/intentions.
> ___ You didn't fool anyone (no one that matters anyway).
> _X_ you did not quote at all.
> ___ you plagarized the thoughts and/or words of another.
> ___ They said it better.
> ___ They said it more succinctly..
> ___ you predicted the "Imminent Death of the Net[tm]".
> ___ you asked for replies via email because you "don't read this group".
> ___ you flamed someone who was making far more sense than you did.
> ___ you flamed someone who is far more witty than you.
> ___ you seem to have flamed someone because you are humor impaired.
> ___ your lines are over 80 columns wide.
> _X_ your .sig is absurdly long.
> ___ And your newsreader truncated it.
> _X_ your .sig shows you to be a novice or anal-retentive because
> (check all that apply):
> ___ you listed ___ snail mail address(es).
> ___ you included a full nine-digit ZIP code for each.
> ___ you listed ___ phone numbers for people to use in prank calls.
> ___ you included a worthless pseudo-legalistic disclaimer.
> ___ your pathetic attempt at being witty in the disclaimer failed.
> _X_ you included (Mark all that apply):
> ___ a self-quote.
> _X_ a quote from someone with evan less wit than you've shown.
> ___ a Dan Quayle joke (apparently becuase you thought it was
> a wise saying).
> ___ overly common ASCII graphic(s) (Choose all that apply):
> ___ USS Enterprise
> ___ Bicycle
> ___ Bart Simpson
> ___ Large Bat
> ___ Kilroy
> ___ That you did not create yourself
>
>
> Furthermore:
>
> ___ You have greatly misunderstood the purpose of _______________________.
> (newsgroup)
>
> ___ You have greatly misunderstood the purpose of the net.
>
> ___ This has been pointed out to you before.
>
> _X_ It is recommended that you (Mark all that apply):
> ___ stick to Prodigy and come back when you've grown up.
> ___ find a volcano and take up lava diving.
> ___ abstain from sex for a month (a month when you *could* get some...).
> ___ go get firsthand experience at *something*.
> _X_ send me all your worldly goods and go become a monk.
> ___ stop reading Usenet news and get a life.
> ___ stop sending email and get a life.
> _X_ eat dye and shit colors.
>
>
> Additional comments:
>
> Though my points are valid, please not that I replied in this
> fashion in order to show that it is sorta tongue-in-cheek. *grin*
>

So what the hell is this? Do you have something wrong with you?
Did you really need a post that long to tell me that I have a long .sig,
I should shit some colors in your name and, that I shoyuld become a monk?
You must be some anal-retentive.......Whats you r problem?
Message no. 12
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@****.CAIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 23:42:40 -0400
Earlier today, Mercenary X sent out a one-line message saying
something about which cards he got in the Denver box. This one-line
message had a signature which exceeded ten lines.

I wrote (among other things):
>
> Additional comments:
>
> Though my points are valid, please not that I replied in this
> fashion in order to show that it is sorta tongue-in-cheek. *grin*
>

On Mon, 15 Aug 1994, Mercenary X wrote:
>
> So what the hell is this? Do you have something wrong with you?
> Did you really need a post that long to tell me that I have a long .sig,
> I should shit some colors in your name and, that I shoyuld become a monk?
> You must be some anal-retentive.......Whats you r problem?
>

Please read the quoted portion of my message above.
Message no. 13
From: John Moeller <John.Moeller@*.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 22:11:13 -0600
On Mon, 15 Aug 1994 Bitrunner@***.COM wrote:
> > In mine all I got was the big downtown map, players and GMS
> > guides. You said you got another seperate map??
>
> yep, i got two copies of a Denver Sector Map...large scale view (in color)
> which covers all six sections with a scale of about 10 miles to the
> inch...the downtown area covers a section about 2.5 square inches...map shows
> major highways and major large streets...

2.5 square inches? I got a map about the size of two 8&1/2 x 11's
showing all six sectors in their entireity (SP?) and the downtown area
maybe 1/8" x 1/16". I also got a full-size poster map showing downtown.

Also, in a sweep of luck, instead of two passes, I got FOUR. Lucky me,
huh? I got an Aztlan, a Ute, and two CAS's.

If I interpret the information from everybody correctly, either they
really screwed up filling the boxes or they meant it to be that way.

John IV
Message no. 14
From: Damion Milliken <u9467882@******.UOW.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 15:01:07 +0000
John IV writes:

> If I interpret the information from everybody correctly, either they
> really screwed up filling the boxes or they meant it to be that way.

Thats pretty poor I reckon. If it's a stuff up, then it's a _real_ bad one
(quite likely considereing this is FASA we're dealing with :-)), but I
would tend to think it wasn't. Which means they meant it to be that way. Why?
It's as if they're trying to get us to buy two or three boxes, just to get the
maps. Sounds like collectors cards to me [read shoddy rip off of no real
value]. If FASA has stooped to that low level, then I will feel justified
calling them FA$A instead of FASA.

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Message no. 15
From: John Moeller <John.Moeller@*.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Denver SourceBOX
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 23:23:12 -0600
On Tue, 16 Aug 1994, Damion Milliken wrote:
> > If I interpret the information from everybody correctly, either they
> > really screwed up filling the boxes or they meant it to be that way.
>
> Thats pretty poor I reckon. If it's a stuff up, then it's a _real_ bad one
> (quite likely considereing this is FASA we're dealing with :-)), but I
> would tend to think it wasn't. Which means they meant it to be that way. Why?
> It's as if they're trying to get us to buy two or three boxes, just to get the
> maps. Sounds like collectors cards to me [read shoddy rip off of no real
> value]. If FASA has stooped to that low level, then I will feel justified
> calling them FA$A instead of FASA.

I agree. FA$A it is. Why would they do that? There's no point to
getting the books over and over again. They could just put all of the
passes and maps in one box. It's pretty pathetic.

John IV

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