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Message no. 1
From: Mike Bobroff <AirWisp@***.COM>
Subject: Detachable Cyberlimbs
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 03:22:50 -0400
In the pbem I have just started running a player of mine is playing a rigger
with cyber out the yanger ... and has full limb replacements, cybertorso, and
cyberskull ...

Here is the rub, he liked the idea of detachable cyberlimbs ... take one out
and clip on another one ...

I limited it to the eyes, ears, arms, legs, and yes, penis (if desired) ...

For each limb that was detachable an additional .25 essence cost was tacked
on to represent the connection point on the torso or skull ...

Each limb could not have more (but can equal) the essence cost paid initially
during the implantation ... so a right arm with 1.6 essence cost as the
primary means that all of the other right arms could not contain more than
1.6 essence points worth of cyberware ...

What is your opinion on this topic ?

How else would you 'rule' this ?

Thanks,

Mike
Message no. 2
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Detachable Cyberlimbs
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 03:48:31 -0400
At 03:22 AM 8/19/97 -0400, Mike Bobroff wrote these timeless words:

>I limited it to the eyes, ears, arms, legs, and yes, penis (if desired) ...
>
DETACHABLE PENIS!!!!!

<<Sorry... Inside Joke that I don;t even remember where it came from...>>

Bull-the-no-I-don't-have-a-one-just-a-detachable-arm-Ork-Decker
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Message no. 3
From: George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Detachable Cyberlimbs
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 05:20:21 -0400
In a message dated 97-08-19 03:24:11 EDT, you write:

> Each limb could not have more (but can equal) the essence cost paid
> initially
> during the implantation ... so a right arm with 1.6 essence cost as the
> primary means that all of the other right arms could not contain more than
> 1.6 essence points worth of cyberware ...
>
> What is your opinion on this topic ?
>
> How else would you 'rule' this ?

Personally, while I think it's a pretti nifti idea, it would completely
preclude the use of ANYTHING with a neural connection, with the exception of
non-cyber items(Anything that uses a DNI add-on). Why? Because a cyberarm
deck, an arm Orientation System, and an Arm Tac Computer will all use
COMPLETELY different neural hookups. Basically, it boils down to not allowing
anything that doesn't cost 0 Essence when in a cyberlimb.

Wolfstar
Message no. 4
From: George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Detachable Cyberlimbs
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 05:23:19 -0400
In a message dated 97-08-19 03:54:06 EDT, you write:

> DETACHABLE PENIS!!!!!
>
> <<Sorry... Inside Joke that I don;t even remember where it came
from...>>

Forgiven, this time. Possibly the joke came from the song by the same name?
=)

Wolfstar, without ANY detachable limbs - just a detachable skull. =)
Message no. 5
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Detachable Cyberlimbs
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 05:46:20 -0400
At 05:23 AM 8/19/97 -0400, George Metz wrote these timeless words:
>In a message dated 97-08-19 03:54:06 EDT, you write:
>
>> DETACHABLE PENIS!!!!!
>>
>> <<Sorry... Inside Joke that I don;t even remember where it came
from...>>
>
> Forgiven, this time. Possibly the joke came from the song by the same name?
>=)
>
> Wolfstar, without ANY detachable limbs - just a detachable skull. =)
>
That might it... It's been a LONG time, and my mind's already going...:]

Bull
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Message no. 6
From: Robert <winddancer@***********.NET>
Subject: Re: Detachable Cyberlimbs
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:08:07 -0400
At 03:48 AM 8/19/97 -0400, you wrote:
>At 03:22 AM 8/19/97 -0400, Mike Bobroff wrote these timeless words:
>
>>I limited it to the eyes, ears, arms, legs, and yes, penis (if desired) ...
>>
>DETACHABLE PENIS!!!!!
>
><<Sorry... Inside Joke that I don;t even remember where it came from...>>

Hey BULL.

Greetz.

Wasn't that a song a few years Back... DETACHABLE PENIS. Like this guy was
at a party and got drunk, woke up with out it and had to buy it back of off
a guy selling stuff at the street corner...

Later

WD
Message no. 7
From: "M. Sean Martinez" <ElBandit@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Detachable Cyberlimbs
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:29:24 -0400
In a message dated 97-08-19 03:54:20 EDT, you write:

<< DETACHABLE PENIS!!!!!

<<Sorry... Inside Joke that I don;t even remember where it came from...>>
>>

Most likely it came from the song of the same name. Or if you went to high
school with me, it would have originated with yours truely. :)

-Bandit
Message no. 8
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Detachable Cyberlimbs
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 18:18:05 -0400
At 10:29 AM 8/19/97 -0400, M. Sean Martinez wrote these timeless words:
>In a message dated 97-08-19 03:54:20 EDT, you write:
>
><< DETACHABLE PENIS!!!!!
>
> <<Sorry... Inside Joke that I don;t even remember where it came
from...>>
> >>
>
>Most likely it came from the song of the same name. Or if you went to high
>school with me, it would have originated with yours truely. :)
>
I know that I have never heard the song, but it probably did originate
there...

And Bandit? man, am I glad I didn;t go to HS with you... <grin>

Bull
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Message no. 9
From: Sir Philos Nex <philos@****.NET>
Subject: Re: Detachable Cyberlimbs
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 20:46:00 -0400
Bull wrote:

> At 03:22 AM 8/19/97 -0400, Mike Bobroff wrote these timeless words:
>
> >I limited it to the eyes, ears, arms, legs, and yes, penis (if desired) ...
> >
> DETACHABLE PENIS!!!!!
>
> <<Sorry... Inside Joke that I don;t even remember where it came
from...>>
>

There was a song that was player for a while on the radio call Detachable
Penis.. :)--
Andrew Dominas
AKA Sir Philos Nex
3rd Year Honours Business Administration U of Windsor
Jedi Knight

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Message no. 10
From: Mike Bobroff <AirWisp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Detachable Cyberlimbs
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 04:18:21 -0400
In a message dated 97-08-19 07:35:06 EDT, Wolfstar wrote:

> Personally, while I think it's a pretti nifti idea, it would completely
> preclude the use of ANYTHING with a neural connection, with the exception
of
> non-cyber items(Anything that uses a DNI add-on). Why? Because a cyberarm
> deck, an arm Orientation System, and an Arm Tac Computer will all use
> COMPLETELY different neural hookups. Basically, it boils down to not
> allowing anything that doesn't cost 0 Essence when in a cyberlimb.


Yes, I can see your point, but that is also where the additional essence cost
comes into play, as that represents the integration point from which DN
control of the limb and cyber within them are controlled. Once the limb is
attached there is a few seconds where the limb communicates with the
encephalon and informs it of what cyber is within the limb, this way the
person then knows what is within the limb.

I would also say that someone who puts a limb on also suffers a +2 modifier
for using those limbs for a short period of time, while they get accustomed
to the changed limb, say 10 minutes, and a Willpower test (6) to reduce time
could be allowed. Although each success on the Willpower test will only
reduce the time by one minute per success.

AirWisp

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