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From:	shadowrn@*********.com (Aristotle)
Subject:	detection spell ranges?
Date:	Fri Jan 19 02:42:01 2001

Message no. 1 Someone help me out here...

On the charts in the book it gives target numbers for ranged detection
spells. One of the entries says "On another plane". What exactly does that
pertain to?

I have a player... who refuses to believe that his detection spells are
limited to Force x Magic Rating in meters because of the wording of that
entry. Is that for clairaudience type spells? Or is that for parallel plains
(i.e. the Astral) where someone may be within RANGE but on another plane? Or
is it for something else?

Help?
Travis "Aristotle" Heldibridle

From:	shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject:	detection spell ranges?
Date:	Fri Jan 19 05:12:01 2001

Message no. 2 According to Aristotle, on Fri, 19 Jan 2001 the word on the street was...

> On the charts in the book it gives target numbers for ranged detection
> spells. One of the entries says "On another plane". What exactly does that
> pertain to?

The astral and physical planes -- say you're on the physical plane and
cast a Detect Humans spell; there is one human nearby on the physical
plane, and one on the astral. The TN to detect the former would be 4 or 6
(depending on whether LOS exists), while to detect the latter you'd need to
roll a 10 (which would automatically mean you detect the one on the
physical plane as well).

> I have a player... who refuses to believe that his detection spells are
> limited to Force x Magic Rating in meters because of the wording of that
> entry.

It is very simple: both apply. The maximum range to which you can detect
whatever it is the spell detects, is equal to the spell's Force time your
Magic attribute rating. The table only sets the TNs, and the two have
nothing to do with each other.

> Is that for clairaudience type spells?

It applies to all detection spells that don't specifically mention they
have another range (like "This spell requies the caster to touch the
target" or something).

> Or is that for parallel plains (i.e. the Astral) where someone may be
> within RANGE but on another plane?

Exactly. If your spell's Force is 3 and your Magic rating is 6, the Detect
Humans spell from the example above wouldn't detect any humans who are
further away than 18 meters, regardless of what plane they're on. Provided
you roll well enough, though, you will detect humans who are on another
plane, as long as they're within those 18 meters from you.

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From:	shadowrn@*********.com (Travis Heldibridle)
Subject:	detection spell ranges?
Date:	Fri Jan 19 14:42:01 2001

Message no. 3 > Or is that for parallel plains (i.e. the Astral) where someone may be
> within RANGE but on another plane?

> Exactly. If your spell's Force is 3 and your Magic rating is 6, the Detect
Humans spell from the example above wouldn't detect any humans who are
further away than 18 meters, regardless of what plane they're on. Provided
you roll well enough, though, you will detect humans who are on another
plane, as long as they're within those 18 meters from you.
<Gurth>

This is kinda what I thought, but really wanted to hear someone else say
before I pushed the issue at my table. Thanks for the clarification!

thanks,
Travis "Aristotle" Heldibridle

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