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Message no. 1
From: Dennis Steinmeijer dv8@********.nl
Subject: Disguise Skill
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:08:01 +0200
This is the same thing that we here call a "Full Borg Conversion". It's
literally the maximum enhancements in attributes incurred by cyberware (old
rules) for a human, without using "muscle replacement". The skills ...
hmmm...not impossible, just improbably without knowing more. Getting that
Armor rating to be even like that is kind of tricky though. Sounds like lots
of cybernetically placed plating of some kin
Message no. 2
From: Starrngr@***.com Starrngr@***.com
Subject: Disguise Skill
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:51:07 EDT
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:59:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: j.jacobsma@************.com j.jacobsma@************.com
Subject: House rules

I recently got into a fairly heated discussion with my players on the subject of house
rules. It turns out that all the little rules that I've accreted onto the system over the
years in an attempt to improve/personalize it are, well, unwanted. My players have been
putting up with them merely because they thought they had to, since I'm the game master.
(Now how did they get that idea, I wonder?)

Now, I know other groups have house rules. How did you get your players to like them, if
they do? If they don't, how did you get them to put up with them? Or are you like me,
living in a dream world, thinking your players are fine with your additions, when they
are, in fact, just keeping quiet and avoiding confrontation. How does your group handle
the whole concept of house rules?

I'm seriously considering going to a "plain vanilla" approach to the rules -- I
Message no. 3
From: Drashal drashal1@*****.com
Subject: Disguise Skill
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:29:20 -0700 (PDT)
From dbuehrer@****.org Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:46:43 -0600
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:46:43 -0600
From: dbuehrer@****.org dbuehrer@****.org
Subject: House rules

j.jacobsma@************.com wrote:
\
\ Now, I know other groups have house rules. How did you get your players to
\ like them, if they do? If they don't, how did you get them to put up with
\ them? How does your group handle the whole concept of
\ house rules?

<warms up to the subject>

I've certainly experienced (as a player and as a GM) both extremes. I've
played and GM'd games that were purely by the book. I've played in games
which used a fraction of the original rules. I've also been guilty of
going a little :) overboard with house rules of my own.

I'm currently GMing Shadowrun, and am trying to keep the house rules to a
minimum. However, I don't balk at trying to address a rule (or rules) that
aren't meeting expectations.

If I want to change a rule, or add a rule, I present it to my players and
ask for their opinion. And, most important, I listen.

There have been times when
Message no. 4
From: dghost@****.com dghost@****.com
Subject: Disguise Skill
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:12:30 -0700
On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:19:17 EDT Ereskanti@***.com writes:
<SNIP>
> Getting that
> Armor rating to be even like that is kind of tricky though. Sounds
like lots
> of cybernetically placed plating of some kind, but then the limit (by
> Cybertechnology) would be 4 points wouldn't it??? Wait, is the 4 point
limit
> for all armor, or just hardened?
<SNIP>

I think the limitation is poorly worded. I think the intention was 4
points higher than lowest armor rating in any one area. That section
needs revision. FASA should do a new `wares book ... oh wait ... :)

--
D. Ghost
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-Groucho Marx

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Message no. 5
From: Angelkiller 404 angelkiller404@**********.com
Subject: Disguise Skill
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:24:04 -0400
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From vocenoctum@****.com Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:29:37 -0400
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:29:37 -0400
From: vocenoctum@****.com vocenoctum@****.com
Subject: White Wolf has been sold

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 03:35:09 -0400 "Angelkiller 404"
<angelkiller404@**********.com> writes:

> >what the frag is Hunter?
>
>
> A new branch of the WoD game, I believe. Something about humans
> who've begun to pierce the lies of the primary character types of
> the
> WW games and have taken steps to prevent this. I'm interested in
> it,
> but I'm interested in the same way that I'm interested in 20-car
> pileups on I-75.

Hunter; The Reckoning.
A new game (same system) along with Vampire, Werewolf, Mage, Wraith and
Changleing
Suddenly, one day, out of the blue, a voice pops into your mind. "They're
evil" it says.
then, you notice that the guy in front of you at the 7-11 looks like a
walking corpse (thats the way you see Vampires)
the voice tells you to kill him, and suddenly you have a glowing sword in
your hand to do it with.

Either that, or you're just insane :-)

Vo

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