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Message no. 1
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Don't try this at home!!! (Was - Bow questions.)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:00:35 -0500
>> >1)Is this possible (by covering/replacing the arrow head with
>> something)?
>>
>> The father of one of my friends is a SCA nut, and he specializes in
>> Archery, and I know they use arrows that just bruise. I'll check with
>> him and see if he can answer the rest of the questions.
>
>In Calontir, at least, they're golf ball tubes with a tennis ball on the
>end, using 50# bows. I'm pretty sure that's standard.

And unless you want to really hurt someone that's ALL you should use.

Storytime - 1992, just out of college. I organize a small Fantasy LARP in my
hometown. We have about 10 people playing.
My younger brother wants to play an archer, and THINKS he's found a safe way
to do so.
He has taken light dowel rods, and covered the head with a
just-larger-than-a-softball NERF ball.
We test this contraption using a 25 pound recurve bow, and it does not hurt
at all.
We wrap the assembly in a solid layer of duct tape, to ensure that the stick
won't pop out.
We take head shots, face shots, front and back body shots - none do any
damage, and so we rule that the Archer will be allowed.

However, we neglected to try CROTCH shots in our testing.

We played this game at an area called "Thompson LEDGES."
I was standing at the edge of the top of a large outcropping, looking out
for the enemy.
Approximately 10-20 feet below me, the Archer has snuck up and takes aim at
me.
His shot connects solidly with my nads, and drops me instantly.
I was lucky to not fall off the rock.
I was lucky not to be NEUTERED!!!

Now I suppose that you COULD make a bow that does ONLY stun damage, but IMO
it's still gonna do some SERIOUS physical damage!!!

Steven A. Tinner - It even hurts in memory ...
bluewizard@*****.com
http://listen.to/Tinner
"YOU DO _NOT_ HAVE A KING JAMES VERSION OF THE NECRONOMICON!"
Message no. 2
From: Joshua Mumme <Grimlakin@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Don't try this at home!!! (Was - Bow questions.)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:00:29 -0600
Steven A. Tinner wrote:

> His shot connects solidly with my nads, and drops me instantly.
> I was lucky to not fall off the rock.
> I was lucky not to be NEUTERED!!!
>
> Now I suppose that you COULD make a bow that does ONLY stun damage, but IMO
> it's still gonna do some SERIOUS physical damage!!!

I would say it was a very good shot possibly above deadly stun. and you had to
roll one heck of a soak not to go unconchious. So yea it was stun damage.

>
>
> Steven A. Tinner - It even hurts in memory ...
> bluewizard@*****.com
> http://listen.to/Tinner
> "YOU DO _NOT_ HAVE A KING JAMES VERSION OF THE NECRONOMICON!"
Message no. 3
From: Micheal Feeney <Starrngr@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Don't try this at home!!! (Was - Bow questions.)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:08:24 EST
In a message dated 98-11-19 20:01:57 EST, you write:

> > His shot connects solidly with my nads, and drops me instantly.
> > I was lucky to not fall off the rock.
> > I was lucky not to be NEUTERED!!!
> >
> > Now I suppose that you COULD make a bow that does ONLY stun damage, but
> IMO
> > it's still gonna do some SERIOUS physical damage!!!
>
> I would say it was a very good shot possibly above deadly stun. and you
had
> to
> roll one heck of a soak not to go unconchious. So yea it was stun damage.
>

And a perfect example of how stun damage could overflow into physical,
regardless of how carefull one was being. Although I have only one question
for mr Tinner... Considering that you KNEW you were going to be beating on
each other with tape wrapped rattan, with the possibility of a rouge low blow,
HOW COME YOU WERNT WEARING A CUP???

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Message no. 4
From: Grahamdrew <mnemonic25@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Don't try this at home!!! (Was - Bow questions.)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:08:33 -0500
Steven A. Tinner wrote:
>
> >> >1)Is this possible (by covering/replacing the arrow head with
> >> something)?
> >>
> >> The father of one of my friends is a SCA nut, and he specializes in
> >> Archery, and I know they use arrows that just bruise. I'll check with
> >> him and see if he can answer the rest of the questions.
> >
> >In Calontir, at least, they're golf ball tubes with a tennis ball on the
> >end, using 50# bows. I'm pretty sure that's standard.
>
> And unless you want to really hurt someone that's ALL you should use.
>
> Storytime - 1992, just out of college. I organize a small Fantasy LARP in my
> hometown. We have about 10 people playing.
> My younger brother wants to play an archer, and THINKS he's found a safe way
> to do so.
<SNIP STORY THAT MAKES ME WINCE JUST THINKING ABOUT IT>

I don't do larp but a viable solution might be to pick up one of those
NERF bows. Maybe wrap the whole thing in rough twine or rags or
something to give it that groovy look, and it might work OK. I imagine
you could probly get one at a yard sale or something, I see them all the
time down our way.
Message no. 5
From: Anders Swenson <anders@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Don't try this at home!!! (Was - Bow questions.)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:47:00 -0800
Steven A. Tinner wrote:
...

> However, we neglected to try CROTCH shots in our testing.
> ...

> I was lucky not to be NEUTERED!!!

...
Ya know, the SCA war archers use similar stuff, but the rules require that
anybody to be shot at must have a lot of required padding, like crotch padding
and a helmet with bars closely spaced enough to keep the arrows away from the
face, etc. --Anders (onetime seneschal of the West)
Message no. 6
From: Micheal Feeney <Starrngr@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Don't try this at home!!! (Was - Bow questions.)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 01:59:08 EST
In a message dated 98-11-21 20:49:26 EST, you write:

> Ya know, the SCA war archers use similar stuff, but the rules require that
> anybody to be shot at must have a lot of required padding, like crotch
> padding
> and a helmet with bars closely spaced enough to keep the arrows away from
> the
> face, etc. --Anders (onetime seneschal of the West)

Yup... In fact, down here in Caid your not allowed on the field without a
good cup period. Archers or no archers.

M. Christensen -- (sometimes Lyondemere Harold.)

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you Howling Mad..." -- Rabid the Pysad.
Message no. 7
From: Nexx <nexx@********.NET>
Subject: Re: Don't try this at home!!! (Was - Bow questions.)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 01:32:42 -0600
----------
> From: Micheal Feeney <Starrngr@***.COM>
>
> In a message dated 98-11-21 20:49:26 EST, you write:
>
> > Ya know, the SCA war archers use similar stuff, but the rules require
that
> > anybody to be shot at must have a lot of required padding, like
crotch
> > padding
> > and a helmet with bars closely spaced enough to keep the arrows away
from
> > the
> > face, etc. --Anders (onetime seneschal of the West)
>
> Yup... In fact, down here in Caid your not allowed on the field without
a
> good cup period. Archers or no archers.

I thought that was SCA-wide, just as part of the general fighter
regulations?

--
Rev. Mark Hall
aka Pope Nexx Many-Scars
*
Iosovich to war has gone
on Pennsic Field you'll find him
His groin protection he has girded on
And decorum slung behind him
-"Pavel's Song", Unknown Calontir Bard
Message no. 8
From: Micheal Feeney <Starrngr@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Don't try this at home!!! (Was - Bow questions.)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 02:53:37 EST
In a message dated 98-11-22 02:40:31 EST, you write:

> > Yup... In fact, down here in Caid your not allowed on the field without
> a
> > good cup period. Archers or no archers.
>
> I thought that was SCA-wide, just as part of the general fighter
> regulations?
>

Hmm... I do belive your right about that, Nexx. Both the minimum allowed
diameter for an arrowhead or thrusting tip and the max spacing on the helmet
bars, etc, are all spelled out in the fighters handbook, which IS SCA wide.

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"You wear a Hawaiian shirt and bring your music on a RUN? No wonder they call
you Howling Mad..." -- Rabid the Pysad.
Message no. 9
From: Anders Swenson <anders@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Don't try this at home!!! (Was - Bow questions.)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:59:16 -0800
Nexx wrote:

> ----------
> > From: Micheal Feeney <Starrngr@***.COM>
> >
> > In a message dated 98-11-21 20:49:26 EST, you write:
> >
> > > Ya know, .... --Anders (onetime seneschal of the West)
> >
> > Yup... In fact, down here in Caid your not allowed on the field without
> a
> > good cup period. Archers or no archers.
>
> I thought that was SCA-wide, just as part of the general fighter
> regulations?
>
> --
> Rev. Mark Hall
> aka Pope Nexx Many-Scars
> *
> Iosovich to war has gone
> on Pennsic Field you'll find him
> His groin protection he has girded on
> And decorum slung behind him
> -"Pavel's Song", Unknown Calontir Bard

It sure is, but I wasn't going to bore people with the whole SCA shtick
--Anders
(never a member of the college of heralds).

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