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Message no. 1
From: Schizi@***.com Schizi@***.com
Subject: Dragon
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 23:13:43 EST
Well, it is finally on the FASA site, download at your hearts content.
(Unless of course you don't like the ED Dragons for some reason)
Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: Dragon
Date: Wed Aug 7 13:35:03 2002
According to Lone Eagle, on Wed, 07 Aug 2002 the word on the street was...

> Just a thought, has anyone tried this? Change the stage value of a
> vehicle's body roll, have it stage with every success rather than every
> pair.

This is basically what SR1 did, too, as the Staging number of attacks
against vehicles was halved. However, you'll want to keep it so that every
_two_ successes for the firer stage the damage up, but every success for
the vehicle stages it down.

> Granted, unless you're staging beyond deadly it makes it very very
> difficult to shoot down something like an Ares Dragon but... The American
> PaveLow transport helo (which I read as about the dragon's closest
> equivalent)

I suppose a Mil-25 is a bit too large to be similar to the Ares Dragon...
However, if you look at the published pictures, the closest modern
equivalent would probably be a CH-47 Chinook crossed with a CH-54 Skycrane,
as the Dragon in the illustrations in SR1 and the RBB is a twin-rotor
machine without a fixed body -- it's basically a cabin with a spine
extending behind it.

> has huge and silly quantities of titanium armour plate around
> all of its essential gubbins it has to be hugely difficult to shoot down,
> makes sense really or every one of them that had ever flown into a hot
> zone would still be there, a victim of small arms fire.

Many helicopters are mainly difficult to shoot down because they're quite
big compared to the size of the vulnerable parts inside them. If you shoot
a couple of rounds through the load bay of a CH-53, you might damage the
cargo or wound/kill some passengers, but it shouldn't impair the helicopter
itself much. OTOH, if you hit the crew or the drive train, it could be in
serious trouble, but the load area is much larger than the engine and

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