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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrn@*********.com)
Subject: Dragons and Blood Mages
Date: Tue Nov 27 03:25:01 2001
dhyde@*********.net writes:
>Draco foundation owes them MAJOR payback, they've been doing "anti-blood
>mage" runs for the last 10 runs...their count is up to about 150 Blood
>Magi turned in to the foundation

First off:

You gotta be kiddin' me. 10 runs, 150 Blood Mages 'turned in'. 150. 15 per run,
captured by how many PCs? How'd they keep them -captured-? So what're they going to do,
now that Aztlan is OUT of blood mages? Tell me, did your PCs ever lose anyone? One blood
mage should be able to take on two or three PCs easily, unless they a) plan way, way
ahead, b) bring along 100:1 superiority in technical firepower, and c) surprise the shit
out of the bleeders. Did they go 'hunting' blood mages -- please note, that's a million
=Y= a pop for the live ones, for about 150,000,000 nuyen you've given them -- with MBTs
with net guns or something? Blood Mages are -powerful-. The magic is corrupting, but
it's powerful as all hell, 'omae'. You really, REALLY need to do something about this...

Second:

The Draco Foundation IS NOT A CLEARING HOUSE FOR DRAGONS. It's a Foundation set up to
fulfill the requirements of Dunkelzahn's will, an act which pissed More Than A Few other
great dragons off. Furthermore, it's run by the elven mouthpiece of said deceased dragon,
someone who has their own agenda and who is trustworthy about as far as you can spit her.
No dragon would trust the Foundation further than they absolutely had to -- certainly not
with anything critical to their personal safety, security, hoard, home, etc. etc. et
fraggin' cetera. Just about any dragon sees a DF spokesperson, they think 'lunch' first,
'target practice' second, and 'person to talk to' a very, very distant third...

Third:

http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/GreatDragons.html

Go read. That's just the Great Dragons. Make up your own lessers, but there's at least a
half-dozen scattered throughout the literature. Dragon Hunt, Bottled Demon, etc. etc.
etc.


Fourth:

HMHVV. Lots of magic -- in actuality, I seem to recall HMHVV being termed as a 'Deadly'
disease for the purposes of 'Cure (X) Disease' spell targets and such. As for the virii
themselves, if you're hit 'sloppily', I'd consider you infected. The virus won't be able
to take you over, however, unless you're drained of essence and thus near-death. (Please
note, just being shot down like a dog doesn't drain your essence. Nor does cybersurgery.
Essence Drain is, or should be, a very specific function and effect, lest you have the boy
munchkining his way to vampirism -- NOT a good thing.)


In conclusion:

I -really- think your game has gotten out of hand ... but that's just me.



The Wyrm Ouroboros
'Half Russian mathematician,
half Silicon Valley code-freak.'
Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Derek Hyde)
Subject: Dragons and Blood Mages
Date: Tue Nov 27 09:45:01 2001
> First off:
>
> You gotta be kiddin' me. 10 runs, 150 Blood Mages 'turned in'. 150.
15
> per run, captured by how many PCs? How'd they keep them -captured-?
So
> what're they going to do, now that Aztlan is OUT of blood mages? Tell
me,
> did your PCs ever lose anyone? One blood mage should be able to take
on
> two or three PCs easily, unless they a) plan way, way ahead, b) bring
> along 100:1 superiority in technical firepower, and c) surprise the
shit
> out of the bleeders. Did they go 'hunting' blood mages -- please
note,
> that's a million =Y= a pop for the live ones, for about 150,000,000
nuyen
> you've given them -- with MBTs with net guns or something? Blood
Mages
> are -powerful-. The magic is corrupting, but it's powerful as all
hell,
> 'omae'. You really, REALLY need to do something about this...


nobody ever said they had to be intact...you gouge their eyes and now
they can't cast spells, and I didn't say they were all initiates or
shamen...there's a bunch of them down there



> Second:
>
> The Draco Foundation IS NOT A CLEARING HOUSE FOR DRAGONS. It's a
> Foundation set up to fulfill the requirements of Dunkelzahn's will, an
act
> which pissed More Than A Few other great dragons off. Furthermore,
it's
> run by the elven mouthpiece of said deceased dragon, someone who has
their
> own agenda and who is trustworthy about as far as you can spit her.
No
> dragon would trust the Foundation further than they absolutely had to
--
> certainly not with anything critical to their personal safety,
security,
> hoard, home, etc. etc. et fraggin' cetera. Just about any dragon sees
a
> DF spokesperson, they think 'lunch' first, 'target practice' second,
and
> 'person to talk to' a very, very distant third...

ok....everyone else here has been saying talk to the draco foundation on
where to find them so apparently I'm not the only one treating them as
the "Draconic Embassy"



> Third:
>
> http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/GreatDragons.html
>
> Go read. That's just the Great Dragons. Make up your own lessers,
but
> there's at least a half-dozen scattered throughout the literature.
Dragon
> Hunt, Bottled Demon, etc. etc. etc.

Preciate the list, was exactly what I'm looking for


> Fourth:
>
> HMHVV. Lots of magic -- in actuality, I seem to recall HMHVV being
termed
> as a 'Deadly' disease for the purposes of 'Cure (X) Disease' spell
targets
> and such. As for the virii themselves, if you're hit 'sloppily', I'd
> consider you infected. The virus won't be able to take you over,
however,
> unless you're drained of essence and thus near-death. (Please note,
just
> being shot down like a dog doesn't drain your essence. Nor does
> cybersurgery. Essence Drain is, or should be, a very specific
function
> and effect, lest you have the boy munchkining his way to vampirism --
NOT
> a good thing.)

Good point, at least someone's read how to cure it somewhere, the
character isn't working towards it I'm having him infected to further my
plots (as the evil GM I am)

> In conclusion:
>
> I -really- think your game has gotten out of hand ... but that's just
me.

It's not that it's out of hand...it's that it's building to a certain
point that I've planned for and they're gonna have to be prepaired for
it, (all out MegaCorp War!!!!!)

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