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Message no. 1
From: "SHANE J. WINZAR" <s702399@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Dragons at the end of an age
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:09:32 +1000
What exactly happens to dragons (greater or lesser) at the end of the age
(read magic cycle) , once the magic falls below the threshold wouldn't
all magical creature die? wither? ummm do the dragons fly of to a
metaplane with high magic for the duration of the low magic age or do the
hibernate or something else? thanx in advance,

Shane Winzar aka Tamino

"Look! the Angel of Death is going a funny green colour...again" -Lady

Jestyr, our GM for Tales from the Floating Vagabond.
Message no. 2
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Dragons at the end of an age
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 12:39:43 +0100
SHANE J. WINZAR said on 16:09/17 Jul 97...

> What exactly happens to dragons (greater or lesser) at the end of the age
> (read magic cycle) , once the magic falls below the threshold wouldn't
> all magical creature die? wither? ummm do the dragons fly of to a
> metaplane with high magic for the duration of the low magic age or do the
> hibernate or something else? thanx in advance,

Not sure, but this is from Ehran's speed to the YET:

"Traditionally, the Threshold Level has been set as the date of the
awakening of the first Great Dragon on the upswing and the hibernation of
the last Great Dragon on the down swing. The average time between
Threshold Levels is approximately 5,200 years."

From that, it looks like dragons go into hibernation somewhere, though
where exactly isn't mentioned.

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Message no. 3
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Dragons at the end of an age
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:21:54 +0100
|
|What exactly happens to dragons (greater or lesser) at the end of the age
|(read magic cycle) , once the magic falls below the threshold wouldn't
|all magical creature die? wither? ummm do the dragons fly of to a
|metaplane with high magic for the duration of the low magic age or do the
|hibernate or something else? thanx in advance,

Judging by how they appeared the last time, many people assume they
hybernate.
Whether this is underground in a hidden lair or in a mataplane is known only
to the Dragons themselves....

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Message no. 4
From: Mike Elkins <MikeE@*********.COM>
Subject: Dragons at the end of an age -Reply
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 11:12:42 -0500
>What exactly happens to dragons (greater or
>lesser) at the end of the age

IMHO: Great Dragon Lairs are high magic areas,
either because thats just where they get built, or
becuase once they build them they become that
way. A great dragon will shield his lair with
VERY powerful magic to prevent it being
detected or invaded, and then (because he isn't
going to get any FOOD for a few thousand years
if he cant leave his lair) hibernates. IMHO a
Great Dragon COULD leave and wander around
briefly during a low mana cycle, but would be
suffering damage all the time: the more magic he
used (and appearing as a human uses magic)
the more damage he suffers. Not worth it without
a GOOD reason.

Lesser Dragons: well, they either die, shack up
with greater dragons, or hibernate inside some
natural high magic place. Ones whose hidding
places could be pierced were probably hunted
down and killed by knights or elves during the
low mana tide.

Double-Domed Mike
Message no. 5
From: Kabael <kabael@****.NET>
Subject: Re: Dragons at the end of an age
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 11:39:00 -0400
At 04:09 PM 7/17/97 +1000, you wrote:
>What exactly happens to dragons (greater or lesser) at the end of the age
>(read magic cycle) , once the magic falls below the threshold wouldn't
>all magical creature die? wither? ummm do the dragons fly of to a
>metaplane with high magic for the duration of the low magic age or do the
>hibernate or something else? thanx in advance,

maybe the hibernate, or the ones that can leave thrrough the astral plane,
but I think that some (the less intelligent and experienced) must suffer
through the time, and most likely starve. BTW, I think that dragons vary
widely in power and that they are thaumivores, so go figure : )

k a b a e l

meo nike a.d.i.d.a.s. reebok
My world is unaffected, there is an exit here
I say it is an it's true, there is a dream inside a
dream, I'm wide awake the more I sleep
-Marilyn Manson, Reflecting God

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Message no. 6
From: Max Rible <slothman@*********.ORG>
Subject: Re: Dragons at the end of an age
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:36:59 -0800
At 11:12 7/17/97 -0500, Mike Elkins wrote:
>>What exactly happens to dragons (greater or
>>lesser) at the end of the age

>Lesser Dragons: well, they either die, shack up
>with greater dragons, or hibernate inside some
>natural high magic place. Ones whose hidding
>places could be pierced were probably hunted
>down and killed by knights or elves during the
>low mana tide.

I would expect that the common dragons who don't get a Great Dragon to hang
out with would die off. I think that the ones popping in now without any
apparent UGE are all reappearing because the universe has this tendency to
re-create important True Patterns (according to the ED book). In ED, this
means that there are some objects that can be destroyed, but they'll just
pop up somewhere else. I suspect that the beings that don't have any evident
critter to be related to for UGE (dragons, sprites) are actually being
restored from backup, so to speak...

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Message no. 7
From: Michael Broadwater <mbroadwa@*******.GLENAYRE.COM>
Subject: Re: Dragons at the end of an age
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:08:06 -0500
At 09:36 AM 7/17/97 -0800, Max Rible wrote:
>At 11:12 7/17/97 -0500, Mike Elkins wrote:
>>>What exactly happens to dragons (greater or
>>>lesser) at the end of the age
>
>I think that the ones popping in now without any
>apparent UGE are all reappearing because the universe has this tendency to
>re-create important True Patterns (according to the ED book). In ED, this
>means that there are some objects that can be destroyed, but they'll just
>pop up somewhere else.

Well, that would explain Elvis.
Message no. 8
From: Gossamer <kajohnson@*******.TEC.WI.US>
Subject: Re: Dragons at the end of an age
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:25:05 -0500
> >>>What exactly happens to dragons (greater or
> >>>lesser) at the end of the age
> >
> >I think that the ones popping in now without any
> >apparent UGE are all reappearing because the universe has this tendency to
> >re-create important True Patterns (according to the ED book). In ED, this
> >means that there are some objects that can be destroyed, but they'll just
> >pop up somewhere else.
>
> Well, that would explain Elvis.

I have very rarely seen such an simple, elegant, poignant, and hilarious
comment.

Gossamer
Message no. 9
From: "J. Keith Henry" <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Dragons at the end of an age
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:25:33 -0400
In a message dated 97-07-17 08:41:41 EDT, s702399@*******.GU.EDU.AU (SHANE J.
WINZAR) writes:

>
> What exactly happens to dragons (greater or lesser) at the end of the age
> (read magic cycle) , once the magic falls below the threshold wouldn't
> all magical creature die? wither? ummm do the dragons fly of to a
> metaplane with high magic for the duration of the low magic age or do the
> hibernate or something else? thanx in advance,
>
>
One option that we've played out here is that those dracoforms capable of
such actually journey "directly" into the Metaplanes. In our games, Arleesh
(Bottled Demon) did that. This way she was able to continue her existence,
living and growing and developing, during the low mana cycle Earthside.
-Keith
Message no. 10
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Dragons at the end of an age
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 22:23:44 -0700
---Max Rible wrote:
>
> At 11:12 7/17/97 -0500, Mike Elkins wrote:
> >>What exactly happens to dragons (greater or
> >>lesser) at the end of the age

Possible Spoilers for Maria Mercurial and others.

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Still, I thought I'd play it safe. For those who have read the
background for Perinwyr and Kyle Morgan, remember that it describes
Perianwyr waking from hibernation and being real hungry so he gorged
himself on a nearby herd of sheep.

Now, Perianwyr isn't a great dragon so this would seem to imply that
both great and lesser dragons both go into a sleep or stasis during
times of low/no mana.

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Message no. 11
From: "J. Keith Henry" <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Dragons at the end of an age
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 19:09:25 -0400
In a message dated 97-07-18 01:27:18 EDT, daddyjim@**********.COM (Loki)
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> Now, Perianwyr isn't a great dragon so this would seem to imply that
> both great and lesser dragons both go into a sleep or stasis during
> times of low/no mana.
>
Okay, now I admit that it was 7 years ago (6?), but I recall Perianwyr being
a Great Western Dragon.
-Keith
Message no. 12
From: Jaymz <justin@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Dragons at the end of an age
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 19:22:05 -0500
At 07:09 PM 7/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
#In a message dated 97-07-18 01:27:18 EDT, daddyjim@**********.COM (Loki)
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#a Great Western Dragon.
#-Keith

nope, it's just a western dragon

am running that scenario at the moment
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Message no. 13
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Dragons at the end of an age
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 20:41:39 -0700
---"J. Keith Henry" wrote:
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> In a message dated 97-07-18 01:27:18 EDT, daddyjim@**********.COM
(Loki)
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> Okay, now I admit that it was 7 years ago (6?), but I recall
Perianwyr being
> a Great Western Dragon.

Nope. He's in "Maria Mercurial" and "A Killing Glare" and in both he's
just your run of the mill (run of the mill?) dragon. You couldn't
really picture a Great Dragon chummin' round with Kyle and working as
a wetwork specialist for Aztechnology, could you? :o)

===
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