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Message no. 1
From: "Mark Steedman" <RSMS@***.rgu.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: dragons - Demise? of Allamais
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:23:11 GMT
Robert Watkins writes

comments on Allamais.

> He wasn't Dunkelzahn's brother... Wasn't he Lofywyr's? Anyway, what made
> you think he died? In the book "Night's Pawn", his barrier was holding up
> nicely against the battlefield laser, and the story ends when the dragon
> leaves the building, and thus no longer protects the guy who then dies. No
> idea of the final outcome, but my money's on the dragon.
>

Having read it, well. The main character did something (read book)
and the barrier faltered, problem is we never got a 'chared corpse'
report. Certainly the barrier fell enough as a result for a lot of
laser power to get through but as to 'did it kill the dragon' well
the book implies it did but the Dragon could have say teleported out
of there in time to escape (yes it is possible for a dragon to get
that nifty trick Harlequin and Ehran use). You really have to say
'open verdict' no proof [beyond all doubt considering that was a
dragon] either way.

Mark
Message no. 2
From: scarterjw@****.tristate.edu
Subject: Re: dragons - Demise? of Allamais
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:01:20 -0500
>the book implies it did but the Dragon could have say teleported out
>of there in time to escape (yes it is possible for a dragon to get
>that nifty trick Harlequin and Ehran use).

Hmmm... dragon Lightbearers.... :)

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Message no. 3
From: dherr@********.net (David Herr)
Subject: Re: dragons - Demise? of Allamais
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 95 15:45:11 EST
On Wed, 8 Nov 1995 10:54:47 -0500 you wrote:

>>the book implies it did but the Dragon could have say teleported out
>>of there in time to escape (yes it is possible for a dragon to get
>>that nifty trick Harlequin and Ehran use).
>
>Hmmm... dragon Lightbearers.... :)
>
oh sure, why not. They hunt horrors too. I have a hard time seeing
some of the lightbearers inviting them to join. As far as that goes I
have a hard time seeing a dragon joining. I also have a hard time
seeing the imortal elves joining, or there being enough magic for them
to use there Lightbearer powers. But then who says that teleporting
is a power only avail. to lightbearers huh?
Message no. 4
From: "Mark Steedman" <RSMS@***.rgu.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: dragons - Demise? of Allamais
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 08:40:36 GMT
scarterjw@****.tristate.edu writes

> >the book implies it did but the Dragon could have say teleported out
> >of there in time to escape (yes it is possible for a dragon to get
> >that nifty trick Harlequin and Ehran use).
>
I was thinking of teleport spells. Unfortunately the only one of the
four ED teleport spells i have read is the illusionists one as all
the others are 9th circle or above and the GM does not like folks
reading the companion.

> Hmmm... dragon Lightbearers.... :)

What ! ? ........

I have heard the term 'lightbearers' mentioned but know nothing about
then 'except the ino's in the ED companion.

With a name like that ones expects serious 'good guys' but having
experienced FASA and the UB well........


> John W. Carter
Mark
Message no. 5
From: Robert Watkins <bob@**.ntu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: dragons - Demise? of Allamais
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 19:53:41 +0930 (CST)
Mark Steedman wrote:
> Having read it, well. The main character did something (read book)
> and the barrier faltered, problem is we never got a 'chared corpse'
> report. Certainly the barrier fell enough as a result for a lot of
> laser power to get through but as to 'did it kill the dragon' well
> the book implies it did but the Dragon could have say teleported out
> of there in time to escape (yes it is possible for a dragon to get
> that nifty trick Harlequin and Ehran use). You really have to say
> 'open verdict' no proof [beyond all doubt considering that was a
> dragon] either way.

No... one of the Russian soldiers fired what must have been a targeting
device at the dragon, at which point the aircraft overhead opened up with
battlefield lasers. The soldier was outside the barrier, and died. The main
character was wounded, but inside the barrier, and the last thing he sees
is Alamais rising up to attack the aircraft... Sounds more like the barrier
moved than the barrier collapsed.


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Message no. 6
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: dragons - Demise? of Allamais
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 11:03:52 +0100
Mark Steedman said on10 Nov 95...

> > Hmmm... dragon Lightbearers.... :)
>
> I have heard the term 'lightbearers' mentioned but know nothing about
> then 'except the ino's in the ED companion.
>
> With a name like that ones expects serious 'good guys' but having
> experienced FASA and the UB well........

They're a secret society devoted to getting rid of all the Horrors,
basically. H is the last of thm, isn't he?

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Message no. 7
From: "Mark Steedman" <RSMS@***.rgu.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: dragons - Demise? of Allamais
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:18:06 GMT
David Herr writes

> >>the book implies it did but the Dragon could have say teleported out
> >>of there in time to escape (yes it is possible for a dragon to get
> >>that nifty trick Harlequin and Ehran use).
> >

> to use there Lightbearer powers. But then who says that teleporting
> is a power only avail. to lightbearers huh?
>
>
The teleport i was thinking of is ED spell magic. There is in ED a
teleportation spell for each of the four types of magician.
Illusonist, a doorway to doorway job, takes illusionary shortcuts but
effectively joins two places.
uses for SR.
Set up end one by riggers battlewagon,
break in , fire up end 2 , port out now empty that rack of straffing
rockets and drop spell. That should provide a nice lot of cover for
the escape, PC's back at van , rockets flying down whatever corridor
they came from,,oops BOOOOOOOOMMMMM..

Nethermancer, creates a black doorway you hop through, or throw other
things through.

I don't know any more details as the Wizard, Nethermancer and
elementalist ones are in the Companion and the GM does not want it
read.

Mark

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